SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Chuck Missler. And Chuck, so many astronauts are reporting UFOs, but one was amazing. This one astronaut, John Blaha, a ham radio operator, actually picked up what he was saying. As a matter of fact, a picture is worth a thousand words. Let’s take a look at that now.
FEMALE (Reporter from the London Broadcasting Company): The wording is as follows: “Houston, this is Discovery. We still have the alien spacecraft under surveillance.”
JOHN BLAHA: “Uh Houston, ah, this is Discovery. We still have the alien spacecraft uh, under observance.”
SID: I have a question for you. Why is there so much misinformation? Why are there so many cover-ups? I mean, when astronauts are reporting UFOs, what is the reason, in your opinion, for the misinformation, the cover-up?
CHUCK: I would be conjecturing like most people. One of the great mysteries in this whole area is why the cover-ups by all the governments, but the most by the United States? Other countries are starting to release those information. But the United States, there is a deliberate attempt to hide this area. And that’s probably the biggest mystery isn’t this one. The biggest one is Roswell. Why does the Roswell incident, back in 1947, enjoy a higher level of classification than our most sensitive war heads?
SID: You’re from the Intelligence community. You should tell me. It makes no sense. I agree.
CHUCK: And it’s a mystery. I don’t have a conjecture as to why they’re doing it, but it’s clear two presidents and four congressmen have been unable to crack the security that surrounds the Roswell incident. Why? That’s over 60 years ago. And the mystery, obviously there’s all kinds of bizarre stories that have come out of that experience. But the real mystery to me isn’t that. The real mystery is why is it classified? Why does the government hide it? And I don’t have any conjectures. I think those conjectures are just as wild as the other conjecture
SID: Well according to your tapes, this cover-up is very unusual because some 30 newspapers reported it in ’47, and then just immediately after, what happened?
CHUCK: Yeah. Blanchard, the colonel of the base, when the Roswell thing first happened, issued a press release that a saucer had landed and so forth. Within a few hours, 400 miles away at the Brigadier General in charge of the 8th Air Force, countermanded that press release and hatched this story about it was a weather balloon and so forth. That starts a whole series of the silliest, most inane cover-up stories. There’s been a sequence of them. First, there was a weather balloon. Well that didn’t fly. They went one after the other. And to the community, it’s almost insulting because the cover-up stories are so empty, so foolish, so ridiculous.
SID: But what about that new technique, digital imaging?
CHUCK: Yeah. It’s interesting that during, when Brigadier General Ramey made his press release countermanding Blanchard’s, the press took pictures. Many years later, just a few years ago, a guy by the name of Johnson, who took the picture, we were able to get the negatives, and by using advanced digital analysis of the negatives, they were able, an analyst by the name of Rudiak, was able to use advanced information techniques to unravel some words that were on the memo that was in Ramey’s hand, and it speaks of the victims and the disc that crashed. In other words–
SID: Actually calls it, not a plane, a disc.
CHUCK: A disc. And there are victims, implying, see the stories have always said there were four bodies. Three were dead and one was still alive. That was the unconfirmed rumors that we heard. Well it turns out that that memo, that unraveling is regarded as the smoking gun because it demonstrates that the Air Force has been lying all along.
SID: Well these UFOs, they defy laws of physics. Your degree is in physics, actually.
CHUCK: Yes. The thing, the fundamentals, and we want to get right at them. We’re presuming a lot here on your audience. The UFOs have two problems. One problem is they are tangible. They show up on multiple radars. They leave physical evidence: burnt ground and radioactivity, and so forth. So they’re tangible. They’re not hallucinogenic. Radar sets don’t have hallucinations, okay.
SID: Right.
CHUCK: On the other hand, they make right angle turns at exotic speeds. They go faster than the speed of sound without sonic booms. They do things that seem to violate physical laws, and yet they are physical in one sense, and yet they’re not physical in another. Now the other area we need to just acknowledge is this is the toughest area to research because, not only because of all the hoaxes and all the crackpots that are in this area. It is because of the deliberate disinformation by the government trying to hide these areas. But the net reality is Jacque Vallee, the Frenchman and J. Allen Hynek, the American, are probably the two most of the early pioneers, the two most reputable researchers. They both came to the conclusion that these things are hyper-dimensional. They’re not extra-galactical. That’s a very fundamental insight, by the way, because they seem to pose being something that they’re not. But the real point is that we’re dealing here with a phenomenon that bridges the physical reality we understand and a reality that’s outside that. One of the things we’ve discovered just in the last few years is that some of the constants of physics are changing, that we thought were constant. And Scientific American, in June of 2005, ran an article in which they pointed out, if the constants of physics are changing that implies that our physical reality is actually a subset, a shadow of a larger reality. And when you start dealing in the UFO area that’s one of the other demonstrations that there is a hyper-dimensional aspect of this.
SID: And you actually, from your research, believe that some of the people, the report they’ve been abducted, is actually true.
CHUCK: That is the spookiest side of this whole area, and probably the classic author in this area is Dr. John Mack, Head of Psychiatry for Harvard Hospital. He’s written a book on this whole area. Clearly, and there was a conference at MIT on this whole subject, there are enormous numbers of people, some estimates are over one percent of the population, maybe it’s two or three percent, claimed to have had an experience which involves being abducted by these vehicles or whatever. And now their stories are too bizarre to accept, on the one hand. On the other hand, when you profile these people, they’re above average intelligence, no prior psychiatric history, clearly subject of some serious trauma, and not anxious. They’re almost trying to hide their stories rather than reveal them.
SID: And their stories are similar. That’s the thing that’s so amazing.
CHUCK: They’re united by some common threads. In fact, that was Mack’s challenge to the conference at MIT. He says if what these people say is happening isn’t happening, what is happening? Because these stories all have common links.
SID: I’ll tell you what. Hold that thought. When we come back we’re going to talk about how these UFOs tie in with End Times. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back.
