SID: My guest, John McTernan, says that he sees a direct connection between 9/11, and the U.S., and the way the U.S. handles Israel. What is that?
JOHN: Well Sid, I just want to refresh your viewers memories that we’re talking about 50 or 60 or 70 same day events, or things happening around the same day regarding the United States pressuring Israel. So 9/11 is not just isolated.
SID: In other words, within 24 hours usually, or even the exact moment, when something bad happens to America, since 1991, John has documented there’s a direct correlation with our handling of Israel. So, continue.
JOHN: So just prior to 9/11, within a week prior to 9/11, and the information I’m relaying to you comes from information that the White House released and picked up by the national newspapers. The President’s formulated policy towards Israel was a two state policy, in that on September 13th, Secretary of State (at that time) Powell was going to notify the Saudi Arabian Ambassador that we were going to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state, and that was going to be announced at the general assembly of the United Nations on September 23rd, 2001. So 9/11 occurred right at the very time we were going to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state, and 9/11 put the brakes on it. And we, then, became at war with the same terrorists. I don’t see much difference between the Palestinian terrorists and Osama bin-Laden. I seen the same bedfellows there. We are at war now with the same enemies that Israel is at war with – literally we are at war.
SID: You know, in your book, I think it is absolutely amazing, as you trace two countries that are similar: the United States of America, and Russia, the former Soviet Union, and how one country went against the Jew and what happened to them, and the other country blessed the Jew and what happened to them. Would you explain?
JOHN: Sid, it’s really quite an analogy, where the Jews were being driven out of Russia simply because they were Jewish. The Russians were doing every conceivable thing to drive them out. The only country in the world – now we’re talking starting in 1881, Sid – the only country in the world who would accept them was the United States. All of Europe closed the doors, whoever else closed the doors. The United States opens the door wide, and however many Jews came out of Russia, we accepted. Eventually it was somewhere between 2 or 3 million Jews fled Russia and came to the United States. But in my book, I document, starting in 1881, God began to raise us up as a world power.
SID: So you can pinpoint it?
JOHN: You can pinpoint it to the year, Sid. To the very year. Isn’t that amazing? As we accepted the Jews into our country, God began to raise us up as a world power, and I show it, almost year by year, this parallel.
SID: Now what happened to Russia when they did these things?
JOHN: Sid, I want to speak briefly on what’s called the May Laws of 1883. And it was draconian laws that the Russian government, backed by the Russian Orthodox Church, applied on the Jewish people. For example, they were only allowed to live in a small section of Russia. If they were outside that, they lost their property, they lost their business, they lost their land – at gunpoint – and they were driven into this section. They lived in small, little enclaves. Their businesses would be stolen from them. Their kids couldn’t go to school. They couldn’t worship Judaism. They lived in terror. And then the pogroms started, which is organized assaults on the Jewish people. And I believe that when you look at what the Russian people did to the Jewish people, that communism was nothing more than the May Laws of 1883 applied to all of Russia. Now, the Russian Orthodox Church couldn’t worship. Like they were doing to the Jews, it hit the Russian Orthodox Church.
SID: It’s like the law of sowing and reaping. As they were evil to the Jews, they reaped evil.
JOHN: One generation later, it came on them. If you can think of Russia and Stalin and Lenin, how they would uproot whole bunches of people and move them, send them to Siberia, that’s exactly what they did to the Jewish people, Sid. Their land, you couldn’t own land in Russia. Land was stolen from people. The Jewish people, their land was stolen from them. So I look at communism, one aspect of it, is punishment. You bless the Jew, America was blessed. You curse the Jew, the Russians got communism. And communism was nothing more than the May Laws of 1883 applied to the whole nation.
SID: Well, here we are now, the United States of America. As far as I’m concerned, one of the greatest countries the world has ever known. But John, you say in your book we’re at a crossroads. What do you mean?
JOHN: Sid, the American government, and specifically the Presidency, and I’m not getting into Democrat or Republican because it was the same under the Democrats as it is under Republicans, we are interfering with God’s prophetic plan, like we had mentioned before about Gaza. And God, in His mercy, is trying to bring this to our attention. He’s trying to wake the church, Sid, because it’s really on our shoulders here. We need power from the church, we need intercession from the church, we need prayer from the church.
SID: Alright, what’s going to happen if we continue fostering a two state solution in the Middle East, to the United States?
JOHN: God will break our back, Sid. It’ll either be… I don’t know exactly how He’s going to do it, there’s several ways that are indicated by these warning judgments, but we will no longer be a world power. He will force us to stop interfering with Israel. It’s a matter of how severe the judgment will fall, Sid. There’s no doubt our back will be broken here. We can no longer interfere.
SID: One minute – look in the camera, talk to President Bush. What would you say to him?
JOHN: President Bush, please stop interfering with the affairs of Israel. Bless Israel. Stand with Israel to support Israel if it’s attacked by Ahmadinejad, for example, of Iran. But no longer interfere with the integrity of the nation of Israel.
SID: Do you believe that there is teeth behind that threat of Iran?
JOHN: There is no doubt about it Sid, absolutely no doubt about it. They will attack when the have the capability of doing it. No doubt.
SID: So what would you advise President Bush to do right now, in reference to Iran?
JOHN: Well he’s already told Iran that if they attack Israel that we will defend Israel. The President has said that, March of last year, which is a tremendous thing to say. No other nation in the world would dare say that. That’s the dichotomy in the United States.
SID: Listen, here’s what I believe. I believe we’re buying time. And I want as much time as possible here in the United States. I want this to be the land of the brave and the land of the free. I want it to be a place for Jewish people to be free. I’m Jewish. I also happen to be a Russian Jew, so I’m very grateful to the United States of America. But I say this to you, that one day, according to the Bible, every Jew will end up in Israel. But the problem is, the safest place in the world is not the United States, for a Jew. The safest place in the world is not Israel, for a Jew. There’s only one safe place for a Jew, and that is intimacy with God. There’s only one way to have intimacy with God. There’s only one God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There is only one Messiah, not a Messiah for the Jews and a Messiah for the Gentiles. There’s only one Covenant. Jewish people already have the correct Covenant. It’s called the New Covenant. It’s found in Jeremiah 31:31. Gentiles are grafted in to the new Jewish Covenant found in Jeremiah 31:31. When someone tells God they’re sorry for their sins, (that’s called repentance), and asks God to forgive them in the name of the Jewish Messiah, Jesus – Yeshua – and believes that He separated their sins from them and took them on Himself, and boldly proclaims “Yeshua’s my Messiah and Lord”, then you are under the New Covenant, you have intimacy with God, and there could not be a safer place than in the arms of Yeshua.
