Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Peter Horrobin. And some of you have been abused when you were a child and you buried it deep. But it’s time for freedom for you. It’s time for you to be free.
Peter, tell me the story of that woman in Russia, Olga.
Peter: Yeah. Baba Olga came to one of our conferences and Olga, being brought up in Russia, she had had a really abusive childhood, but then she was sexually abused by Russian officers in the Communist system. She had a horrendous childhood. Then she met and married an American barber who was over there on business and he brought her back over here. And years later she has scoliosis of the spine, constant pain, constant physiotherapy, no hope of anything being healed. And she came to the teaching on forgiveness. And as she heard the teaching that I had been sharing from the Word of God she suddenly realized that God was saying there’s a link between her twisted spine and the pain she’s in constantly, and the abuse that she suffered as a child. And right there sitting in the seat just listening to the teaching, even before I prayed for anybody, you know, you don’t have to have someone pray for you. When you begin to actually put things right in your own heart, the Spirit of God…
Sid: And by the way, some of you can be doing that right now right as Peter is talking.
Peter: Absolutely. Yeah.
Sid: Come on now. Your parents didn’t raise a dumb person. Do something. Go ahead.
Peter: So as I was teaching she heard the message, “forgive” and she forgave. And as she was sitting there in the conference she began to feel her spine being straightened. She couldn’t understand what was going on, but she knew that there was a link now that God was working out. When she got home that night, she looked at herself in the mirror and her previously twisted spine was absolutely straight. All the pain had gone. And she came back the following day to the conference just absolutely rejoicing. She had forgiven. She turned as it were the master key, I like to talk about it, she had forgiven and she had spoken blessing out on those who had abused her and hurt her.
Sid: She opened the door that had been closed with all of that pain.
Peter: Absolutely.
Sid: And the pain left.
Peter: Jesus went into the room with her.
Sid: I like that even better.
Peter: And all the pain and all the suffering, and all the demonic power, she was delivered. She knew she was being delivered of spirits of infirmity that were affecting her spine and holding it in that twisted position.
Sid: Tell me about the woman in Rwanda.
Peter: Yeah. Frieda was in an incident in the middle of the Rwanda genocide. All her family had been gathered together and they were about to be murdered. And the people who were doing the killing just gave them the option of how they were going to die. And they all chose how they were going to die. They were too poor to buy a bullet, which would have been quick, and so they were hit on the back of the head by machetes. And she watched as her younger brothers and sisters were murdered one by one in front of her, and her mother, and all the rest of her family, 15 members of her family, and she was the 16th. All of them were put into a shallow grave. Fourteen hours later, someone sat on that grave and heard a noise from underneath.
Sid: She was buried alive with all of her dead relatives.
Peter: She was buried there. Absolutely. They thought she was dead. And she made a noise and that was her. And they scrambled underneath and they pulled her out. So she had been alive for 14 hours with 15 dead members of her family. She fled the country. Out of the country, she met a friend who introduced her to Jesus and she began to read what she calls The Book. And in The Book she began to see that, not only had Jesus given her new life and relationship with God, but He wanted to live His life through her. And in The Book it said, “Forgive.” And so she was like, “I’ve got to forgive.” And when she came back to Kigali after the genocide was over, she went to the jail where the man who had done the massacring was in jail and she spoke forgiveness to him for what he had done.
Sid: How could she do that? Explain to me how she could do that. I mean, someone that murdered, I mean murdered by hitting your relatives, your mother, your father, your brother, your aunt, your uncle on the head, and you, you’re knocked out and they’re all put into a grave. You didn’t do anything wrong, nothing wrong. You’re buried alive and you’re telling me she went to the prison and forgave that person?
Peter: She did. And that was the grace of God. You cannot do it except He gives you the courage to do it. And it’s exactly the same thing. How could Jesus forgive those who were nailing him to the cross? It’s actually a very similar situation. And he said, “Bless those who curse you.” And when she came away from the jail she was a different person. Many years later, she wanted to help her fellow Rwandans. And she came to one of our schools to train, but she was constantly in pain. The back of the head where she was hit with the machete, the pain never went away. Every night when she sank into semi-consciousness on her pillow, she was sinking into the grave, along with all the dead relatives. The trauma was right there every single night. And that conference, that school that she came on, I prayed with her that Jesus would go right into those memories, right into that moment of trauma, right into that moment when she had actually been put into the grave and to heal her at that moment in her history. And a transformation took place. The following morning she came down from her room and she said, “For the first night since the genocide I have slept without any nightmares. I have no pain in my head.” I’ve been back to Rwanda, been to her home and she and her husband are now pastor of a 3000-strong church in Kigali.
Sid: Can you imagine that from being buried alive to being a pastor of a 3000-member church? If Frieda could forgive, it’s easy. It’s easy for you to forgive. When we come back, I’m going to have Peter pray for you. Don’t go away.
