Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah his name if Matt Sorger. I’m speaking to him at his office in Long Island, New York. And on yesterday’s broadcast Matt we found out you came from a Catholic background, you weren’t particularly religious at all. Your mother was very very sick, and she went to a Catholic Charismatic meeting, she literally got thrown in the air with the power of God ten feet, electric bolts went through her. She came home, you were just fourteen years of age, but you recognized something different happened. Then the next day or so, after what happened to your mom being, I mean a major miracle happening in her life, you all received the Messiah. You went to church, but you had a problem, the problem you had is when you weren’t in church you didn’t have that same good feeling of the Holy Spirit that you had in the local nondenominational church your family started going to. So you got a worship music, you went into your bedroom, how long did it take before you felt anything while you were worshipping God in your bedroom every night?
Matt: Sid it was about four months where…
Sid: How did you stick it out for four months as a young kid?
Matt: You see you know it’s funny I was just, I was just being drawn by God that it didn’t necessarily matter what I felt or what I didn’t feel, although I wanted to feel God in a greater way yet I was so hungry for Him it didn’t matter. So I was just, I was just determined that I was going to walk with God and develop this relationship with Him; and you know I would get my worship music and I’d sing the songs, then I’d have my prayer time. I was just brand new saved and all this Holy Spirit stuff was very very new for me. But I’ll never forget the day I was standing in my bedroom singing the same song I’d sung thousands of times probably before.
Sid: You said you had just one CD.
Matt: Yeah, my one little Hosanna worship tape, and I played it over and over and over again. I’m standing in my room and my hands are lifted up now and I’m singing the song it was like heaven opened up over me in my room. And I physically felt something come from over my head, it came over my body and then the whole room it was like whoosh it just filled the whole room. This tangible glory just broke open and my whole room became filled with God, I became filled with God in such a tangible way that that something that day broke through; and from that moment, literally from that moment, from that second forward in my relationship with God. Every time I would just whisper the name of Jesus Holy Spirit would show up in the same way, whether I was alone, whether I was with people in church, that same presence would come upon me. And sometimes actually it would come even stronger when I was alone.
Sid: Now tell me about the time the Holy Spirit told you to dance.
Matt: Okay we’re going to fast forward a few years when I was pastoring now. I was three years in college, and you know going to study to be a doctor and going premed and you know had certain plans and then the Lord called me to full time ministry. And I remember…
Sid: It’s interesting you were interested in medicine in the natural as well as the spiritual.
Matt: Yeah, well you know what it was my heart always was to do something for God. I wanted to help people; you know that was just something God put in me. And you know everyone always says you have to you know go to school, get a good education; not that I’m not saying to do that, but this was, that was the normal pattern that everyone walks through. So that’s what I was doing because I didn’t know to do anything else until God spoke to me about ministry, and then He began to you know really confirm to my heart that He had called me full time to preach the word and to you know serve Him. Now at this point I had gone through Bible school, and then became a pastor on staff at a church in New York. I was pastoring for about five years and I was really hungry for God Sid. You know when we were talking before about when I first joined church and I would get frustrated because this whole thing is connected, I would get frustrated when I would pray for people. Eventually I started to pray for people but I saw nothing happening you know I would pray for someone and they wouldn’t get healed, I would pray for someone and there was no anointing.
Sid: Listen, I’m must have healing lines of fifty people and nothing would happen, I don’t know how I did it, I don’t know how you kept up.
Matt: Yeah, you know but I would say to people, and this was when I was a teenager I would say to people I’d say, “Something is wrong, I said when I pray for someone I want something to happen.” And it became a humorous thing like even if their little pinky shakes, you know something, I just want something to happen to this person when I pray for them. You know, I don’t want it to be like praying over a dead stone you know, you know laying empty hands on an empty head you know; I want something to transpire. I remember I started to get real desperate so now at this point I’m just spending hours and hours and hours and hours in the presence of God. I know sometimes peoples schedules and I’m not saying that God does it the same way with everybody, but for me this was what God was doing in me. And I just found myself the time increasing that I was spending with the Lord and the presence of the Holy Spirit was growing and increasing in my life. All of a sudden as this was happening, I kept praying for people and then the glory and the anointing that I was experiencing alone with God now suddenly began to overflow and started to flow through me to touch other people. And I remember when people starting falling over, you know back then in the church where I was at it wasn’t necessarily a common thing to see people falling over, or to see you know demonstration of the Holy Spirit, it was not a normal thing. So when it started to happen I was surprised by it but I wasn’t totally unfamiliar because I knew what had happened to my mom when she first got healed the power of God knocked her over. So I knew that kind of thing happened, but I remember as I started to pray for people things started happening. It was a direct result of the overflow of the presence of God that I was experiencing in my bedroom and in my alone time with Him. It started to flow through me now to touch other people. You know this was still in my teen years and we hadn’t necessarily stepped full time into what I would consider a healing ministry, but things were happening, people were getting delivered, people were getting set free. I remember praying as a teenager for another young man who was in the youth group and he was bound by drugs and alcohol and all this addiction. Sid I didn’t know what to do, I didn’t know how to pray all I knew to do was to call on the name of Jesus. So I remember sitting with a group of all the young people and just putting my hand on his shoulder and calling out to Jesus and saying “Jesus, set him free with the blood of Jesus.” And I just kept saying the blood of Jesus, and all of a sudden, again, the power of God came and hit this kid so hard he jumped out of his seat started screaming and he started running all around his house screaming, “I’m free, I’m free.” All the bondages and addiction that was on his life instantly broke off and he was set totally free. And I remember those times starting to see that anointing and that flow of God really be released in people’s lives.
Sid: Now what you’re telling me is that by spending time with God the power was accumulating within you to a point where it exploded.
Matt: That’s what happened, yeah that’s exactly what happened. I think the breakthrough happened in me you know because I think as I was spending time with God my spirit man was becoming more full of Holy Spirit, and then eventually it became so full that it just had to overflow. And then power and everything else out flowed with it was just a natural byproduct of the intimacy that I was experiencing with God. And then it just kept increasing and the awesome thing about God is that you don’t have to just hit one level it can be ever increasing and ever growing. So I remember you know following God, and you know stepping into full time ministry and He led me to become a pastor for about five years. I pastored out a church here in New York, and at that point it was probably in the fifth year I was doing you know the regular pastoral duties. But then something else started to happen in my heart and God started to really stir in me a vision for mass miracles and a vision to see multitudes healed, saved, delivered, you know, I started to see these crowds in my mind. I started to see these crowds of thousands of people. I started to see these miracles, and I started to see, you know, this outpouring of the Holy Spirit and it was something of a vision God was putting on me and inside of me. I found myself so much more hungry now for the healing power to see signs and wonders and miracles. And you know there are those moments of divine encounter that will change your life forever. I remember it was a Monday morning in the church, and one of my jobs as an associate pastor was to help process the offerings from the Sunday mornings services, and we would do that on Monday morning. So I was in the church, it was like 9:00 in the morning, and we’re counting the money and it’s just like every other day and as I’m counting Holy Spirit from inside of me, from deep down inside of me, I feel something rising up on the inside of me. And I hear the voice of God speak to me and He says “Matt, I want you to get up and begin to dance right now.” And in my natural mind it didn’t totally compute, I said, I thought to myself, “Why would I dance now?” You know there’s no music, it’s not a service, we’re just doing administrative work, but I could ignore it and it got stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger.
Sid: Matt, I’ll tell you what, hold that thought we’ll pickup right here on tomorrow’s broadcast. But I am very excited about the teaching gift that God has given you because when it comes to healing, when it comes to miracles, there’s a lot of confusion out there and there are a lot of people unlike you did not breakthrough they started and the baby was aborted. Well tell me the results of what people say when they sit under your teaching?
Matt: Yeah, well you know you people will know the truth and the truth sets them free and part of being used by God is knowing the truth; and in this particular teaching series we have on created miracles you know really we’re not teaching something that we know is a good idea. We’re teaching something that we’ve lived and we’ve experienced, such as God reforming eardrums on the inside of people’s heads and you know opening up deaf ears.
Sid: But you know what I love is after the teaching which settles the argument then comes the good stuff, the impartation.
Matt: Yeah, and that you know it’s information and it’s impartation.
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