Sid: Now my guest Carlos Sarmiento… Carlos the experience that you had you’re not Jewish I happen to be Jewish. We’re both believers in the Messiah, you’re just doing what you’re supposed to do because the Bibles says that the Gentle believer in Jesus is to provoke the Jew to jealousy. I’m telling you did it with what happened to you. I’m going to take you back to that date May 8th, 2005. You’re asleep it’s 4:00 AM in the morning and all of a sudden you catch your spirit slipping out of your body because you see your wife. You know laying there right in the bed and an angel was holding you up and you start rising up through the clouds. And you begin to be really taken by the colors especially since in the natural you’re colorblind but all of your senses are being magnified. And then you more to another scene and you see Jesus talking to His Father God. And what are they discussing?
Carlos: They’re talking about the current condition of the Body of Christ and the Church. And the primary thing that I received out of that encounter as they were talking, and you know I heard a voice that said to me “You’ve been granted to stand here and listen.” And so I felt this peace that I could listen to this conversation. So I remember they didn’t pay attention to me it was almost as if I wasn’t there but I was like a 3rd party in this conversation. And so I stood there, I was maybe 10 feet away from them as I stood there and listened I began to really intently focus on their words. And they were talking about the condition of the earth, but they were also talking about where the church would be going, where the church was today, and the plans of God through the ministry of the Holy Spirit for the last great movement and the greatest harvest of souls. One of the things that I clearly remember them talking about was how the greatest signs, wonders and miracles were still yet to come that were part of the last day generation, the last great move of the Spirit of God as the climax to the last great outpouring of the Holy Spirit because we’re still in that great outpouring season.
Sid: Now most prophets, or people that are prophetic, miss timing. But as I hear you share this it sounds to me like we have a little bit of time to prepare before this great explosion of the Holy Spirit or do you think it’s already happened?
Carlos: I believe that the way that the Holy Spirit operates is that He operates through preparation, He always has his several messengers that begin to prepare the church for what He wants to come. I call them forerunners. And I believe that we’re at a stage, the Holy Spirit is always moving, He’s operating. I believe that we’re living in a day and an hour where the Holy Spirit is really beginning to take it up a notch. And what I believe by that is that He really is preparing His forerunner messengers for the sole purpose of preparing the Church to become the Bride of Christ. Which is the ultimate identification and the ultimate relational experience that the Body of Christ could encounter with Jesus. Which is of course the intimacy between the bridegroom and the bride. Which is the Church, Christ and the Church. I believe that the Holy Spirit is definitely in operation and He’s moving and I believe that we’re at the very beginning stage of preparation. Because preparation to me really involves learning to live in the urgent hour that we’re living in. Not just living in yesterday’s revelation, yesterday’s manna, but I believe the Spirit of God is trying to awaken the church primarily to turn back to her first love and fulfill the great commandment. I think that we as a Church over all we try to fulfill the second commandment, loving our neighbor, reaching souls, evangelism without fulfilling the great commandment first. I believe the Holy Spirit is working overtime through messengers, encountering people, encountering men of God, women of God. Those in ministry, those that are not in ministry, marketplace people to become lovesick forerunners so that they can become like trumpeters, prophetic voices to awaken the Church to say Jesus is coming, we must return back to the first great commandment. Walk in it and as we do so we will see the greatest manifestation of the power of God, the miraculous and massive souls coming in. Because Holy Spirit will be able to trust those servants who will not rape the church nor take advantage of the Body of Christ nor take the glory for themselves but they will give the glory to Christ.
Sid: Can you give me a sanctified speculation of what these great miracles might look like that are about around the corner?
Carlos: I would say that there is nothing new under the sun; so what I would say is the miracles that are taking place worldwide will take place in that day now. But what I sense and what I saw was a massive explosion where it would be enlarge masses. Almost you know like the Book of Acts,
Sid: Wait, wait, wait Kathryn Kuhlman prophesied that a day would come when a true believer would walk into a hospital and everyone in the hospital would be instantly healed. Is that the type of magnitude that you’re talking about?
Carlos: Yes, and the way that I received it and I’ve been sensing it is that it’s not just those that are called to full time. It’s the average believer that would walk in fullness, the Stevens, the Philips. They were not the apostles, they were not part of the upper tier leadership but they were man and woman of God who loved the Lord and gave Him glory and they walked in great anointing and great authority because of their connection with the Lord. I believe that’s what the Holy Spirit intends to do and He’s going to do. He’s always going to have His forerunners, He’s always going to have His men and women in place the Kathryn Kuhlman’s, the Benny Hinn’s the Kenneth Hagin’s the great men of the day. He always will have them as provokers as sparkers, as forerunner. But the true mark of the forerunner is to invite the general body, not just the upper tier of leadership. I really believe the Holy Spirit is preparing the Body for a massive sweep of God’s power that will involve whosoever thirsts let him come. I believe that the Holy Spirit wants to do.
Sid: Now I have to ask you what were the most terrifying words you heard in heaven?
Carlos: Well in that encounter at one point in the conversation between the Father and the Son, the Father looked at Jesus and this was near the end of that conversation; near the end of the encounter. When the Father said to Jesus “It’s time Son go get your bride!” And Sid the only way that I could explain how I felt at that time was the terror, the terror. It was like the terror I didn’t understand what the terror or the fear of the Lord was. But at that moment I felt the terror and fear of the Lord. It was like those words that He spoke I could almost see them in my spirit that those words were created, they formed like a ball of fire in that word rolled towards me. And I knew that this ball of fire was going to hit my inner-man. And I remember when that word came and hit my midsection and I could tell that my body began to shake violently and I knew that I was about to say something that I didn’t want to say. And what came out of my lips; what came out of my mouth were these words that said and I screamed it at the top of my lungs, “No… we are not ready!”
Sid: Why did you say that?
Carlos: You know I was shocked by what I said; I was really disturbed by what I said; as a matter of fact when I came out of my encounter. I said “My God, my God what was that?” And I remember I was so disturbed by those words that I was shaking and crying out loud I realized that it was 4:00 AM in the morning and I threw myself on the floor and four 2 hours Sid all I could tell you was that those words “No, we’re not ready! No, we’re not ready!” They kept coming back to me and I didn’t understand why I said that. I said “Lord, am I not ready? Is my life not ready? Am I not ready to meet you? Is my family not ready, is my ministry not ready? Why would I say that, and for 2 hours I cried out, show me, speak to me? So finally at the end of those two hours of standing, sitting before, laying before the Lord I heard the gentle voice of the Holy Spirit that said “Son, if I took you home right now you are ready to meet Me for eternity, but in the condition your heart is in right now you are not ready for the next great move of the Holy Spirit that I’m about to visit the earth with.” And that’s what put me in a seeking mode where I said “Lord, I don’t know how to get ready, teach me; show me how to get ready.” And that’s what brought me to the place where we are today.
Sid: Tell me just a few things that the Holy Spirit showed you to do personally to get ready.
Carlos: The first thing He showed me was through a series of events and through me seeking the Lord about that. He said “Carlos number 1 you must return to your first love.” And he reminded me of the Church of Ephesus in the Book of Revelation; how the Church of Ephesus had great works. Sid, I could tell you when I was encountered by the Lord our church was exploding, we had; we were prosperous financial church, we were seeing souls left and right coming into the kingdom, people getting healed miraculously, we had a thriving, lively church full of excitement. But then the Lord began to show me through this encounter, and as I was seeking the Lord Carlos, “You’ve grown comfortable. Yes you love Me, yes you seek Me but son your heart does not burn for Me the way it used to and I’m looking for servants that will keep the first commandment the first thing, who will major in the major and not minor at it. They’re going to seek Me with all of their heart, mind, soul and strength.”
Sid: Carlos, we’re out of time right now; we’ll pick up on the instructions. Because the instructions that Carlos got they’re the instructions for you. I know you want to sell out to the Lord, but there are things that are stopping you. But I do not want you to say “I’m not ready” when the greatest move to ever hit planet earth is right around the corner and God’s having you listen to this interview right now to be prepared.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth