SID: You know, my wife is so fascinated by what you’re teaching. She’s saying, if you lived in Charlotte, she’d go to lunch once a week with you. But what about mutations? Isn’t that a way of creating new types of species and things?
BRUCE: Well everybody hears about mutations. But mutations destroy information. And DNA, what creates our body is this code, and it’s like randomly changing the letters in a book. It destroys the information. It won’t create a better book. It destroys information. Let me give an example. For about a hundred years, we’ve taken fruit flies, we put them in a chamber and we add radiation to the, X-rays, and they mutate, and the next generation has mutations. So we think by doing this with millions of fruit flies—
SID: What kind of mutations?
BRUCE: It’s changing the information on their DNA code. But what you get are fruit flies with different colors, fruit flies with twisted wings, fruit flies with different numbers of bristles, fruit flies with legs hanging out where their eyeballs ought to be. We’ve never gotten a new creature. We’ve never gotten a new organ. We’ve never gotten a new functioning feature. We’ve never gotten anything that’s useful. That experiment shows mutations don’t create new kind of creatures.
SID: So how come we’re taught this on TV?
BRUCE: Because if you don’t want to believe God did it, you just have to make up a story. You got to come up with some way to explain where new information comes from. So they grabbed mutations and they ran with it.
SID: Okay. Grand Canyon. Magnificent. Millions of years in the making. You say different.
BRUCE: The key event in the Bible to explain the world and the way it looks is a worldwide flood. This flood was real. This entire globe was resurfaced. There would have been rapid movement of the continents. As the continents shoved together, it shoved up the mountain chains almost a year after that flood started. The water rushed off the surfaces of this newly laid down sediment and rock layers that were filled with fossils. That’s where they came from. That’s how it fits into the Bible. Well as this water was rushing away it carved out the Grand Canyon very, very rapidly.
SID: Give me an example as a scientist of this happening rapidly, that you know of.
BRUCE: Well there’s a very modern example. In Washington State, in 1980, Mt. St. Helen’s blew up. It was a volcano where the whole top of the mountain slid down into the valley. Trillions of pounds of sediment were instantly pulverized and turned into a fluid that flowed down into the valley. When it happened, it laid down new layers of rock up to 600 foot deep. Later, water backed up. Months later, it flushed through this area of this newly formed rock, layered as it flowed as a liquid, and we see these perfectly horizontal seams of sediment formed in a matter of minutes into this layer. It shows how the layers of the earth formed. Not over millions of years, but very rapidly during this world restructuring flood.
SID: Okay. You talk about a flood because the Bible talks about a flood. But certainly there would be records of this flood in different cultures all over.
BRUCE: Well and that’s exactly what we find. I mean, you can go on the Internet and you can Google flood stories, you’ll come up with websites that list hundreds of cultures that have a remembrance that there really was a flood upon this planet.
SID: How about Native Americans? Tell me what you found out.
BRUCE: Well I found just a phenomenal record from the Delaware Indians. They’re one of the earliest American Indian tribes that migrated through Alaska down across Canada, and then spread out across the United States. They have a record of where they believe everything came from that exactly parallels the biblical account of creation. The Great Spirit hovered over the waters and then he made mankind, and the evil came into mankind and distorted things, and deceived mankind. But then they talk about a world covering deluge that came and destroyed the entire globe. This isn’t the Bible. This is a totally separate culture from the Bible. Now see, all people spread out across this globe after this flood. The Egyptians, the Chinese, the Incas, the American Indians, they spread out after the flood. But they took with them a remembrance of this flood, and that’s exactly what we find.
SID: Tell me about the seashells.
BRUCE: We find seashells at the top of Mt. Everest. Mt. Everest is 28,000 feet above sea level, and yet there are fossilized seashells that high above sea level. The reason they’re there is because those mountains were pushed up at the end of Noah’s flood and they contained all of these dead creatures that have been compacted into new rock layers formed during this flood.
SID: The Bible talks about, in addition to giving evidence as to how things were created, because the evidence is from the Creator. It talks about in the last days there will be scoffers that won’t believe what God says.
BRUCE: You’re referring to 2 Peter 3, Verse 3, it says, “In the last days, scoffers will come, saying everything is continued as it has since our fathers fell asleep.” In other words, slow, gradual processes explain everything. That’s the days we live in today. We are living in what the Bible calls last days. And then it says, “These scoffers will specifically say, there was never creation out of water,” a reference to God created everything as He hovered over the waters of the deep and there has never been an earth flooded by water. The two signs in the last days will be a denial of creation and a denial of a worldwide flood. That’s exactly what the academic community is doing to all over our children as we send them through the public education system.
SID: But God says, in the last days, He’ll give us a sign. It will be like the “days of Noah”. What do you believe he meant?
BRUCE: Well Jesus said these words. He said, “It will be as in the days of Noah before I return.” There was a monument to a coming judgment called “Noah’s Ark” towering above all mankind in the days of Noah. I believe we are very close to finding Noah’s ark locked in ice at the top of Mt. Ararat, a boat big enough to put every species of mammal, bird and amphibian in that boat, locked at the top of one of the highest mountains on this planet. What better sign could there be that these rock layers are not very, very old. They were laid down by this flood only about 4500 years ago.
SID: And according to information that I have and that you’ve seen, we’re about ready to see that. There’s so many sightings.
BRUCE: There have been sightings from the early 1900s on up, and we now have satellites that can see through ice, that have seen an object in that ice that looks very much like Noah’s ark.
SID: But how could the ark, I often wonder, how could the ark hold so many animals?
BRUCE: Well the better question is, why is there a boat that big locked on top of this mountain, you know 14,000 feet above sea level? It’s big enough to hold every species of mammal, every species of bird, every species of amphibian that’s ever been alive on this planet in only about half the space of the ark.
SID: If it was ready to rain and God told you a flood was coming, would you get in an ark? Would you build an ark? I would. You would. The ark has already come. The ark has a name. His name is Jesus.
BRUCE: Amen.
SID: You’re either in Jesus or out of him. Choose this day who you will serve. But as for me and my house, we’re going serve the Living God. Make Jesus your Messiah and Lord. You repent and the life of God will touch your spirit and it will become alive to God. And God says a miracle will happen. He will remember your sins no more and you will be able to communicate with the Living God. You will hear His voice. This is what you need now.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth