Sid: My guest by way of telephone at his home in Lexington, South Carolina is William Morford he’s the translator what is rapidly becoming my favorite reading New Testament, it’s called “The Power New Testament” subtitle “Revealing Jewish Roots.” Because there are Hebrew Idioms to what Jesus was saying.  And then the way Bill you brought out the tenses as I read and it’s in modern English, the whole thing becomes maybe you should call it “The Alive New Testament.”

Bill:  (Laughing)

Sid: Rather than “The Power New Testament.” Why is it that the other Bibles don’t capture this?

Bill:   I certainly don’t understand it because when you take Greek this is the way you’re told that it should be translated.  But when the others translate it they leave out the extra punch that’s there in the Greek.

Sid: How did you first get attracted? I know how you got attracted to the Greek, but how did you even.  I mean the average Christian doesn’t know these idioms, these Hebrewisms. How did you understand this, how did you learn this?

Bill:  I went to a Rabbi… we moved to Lakeland, Florida just before I started before the Lord told me to get serious in translating.  And we moved there just to… because we felt that that’s where the Lord wanted us. We didn’t know anyone in Lakeland, but we felt that He put me in touch with a Messianic Rabbi so I could get Hebrew references that I needed.   After we got to Lakeland we found out that there was no Messianic Rabbi there, but there was Rabbi Eliezer Ben-Yehuda a Jewish Rabbi who was a great help.  Personally going through scripture with me and giving me reference books.

Sid: And for those that are tuning in for the first time this particular Rabbi’s grandfather was the single person that pioneered Hebrew to be a modern speaking language in Israel.  And actually came up with many of the words so you could not have found a better teacher Bill.

Bill:  Right, certainly not and what made him even better than his scholarship was his attitude and his helpfulness. And he feels that part of his call is to be a bridge between Christians and Jews.  So he was very helpful. We’ve became very good friends.  And we’ve been to their home for Pesach, or Passover, and for other feasts days it’s really wonderful.

Sid: Bill, I want you to teach some of the things that I’ve been gleaning from reading your “Power New Testament.”

Bill: Okay, let’s start at Acts 18 with the first verse that says “Paul going to Corinth after these things he left from Athens and went to Corinth and when he found a certain Jewish man name Aquila a native of Pontus who came recently from who came recently from Italy with Priscilla his wife, because of the order of Claudius to separate all the Jewish people from Rome, Paul came to them and because they were in the same trade he was staying with them and he was working.  For they all were prayer shawl makers by trade.  And he was discussing in the synagogue…

Sid: Wait a second, my Bible says “Tentmakers.”

Bill:  Well, they say that but that’s not right.  The word that’s translated tentmaker is “skenopoios” and it does not appear in any other Greek writing anywhere.  So whether it was commonly used by the Jewish people in those days or not whether Luke just made it up we don’t know.  But we do know that a man named Bauer who did the Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich Greek-English Lexicon this is over a hundred years ago. He wrote a whole column on that one word and concluded that he didn’t know what it was, but that it was something that required technical training.  The technical training that we know all three had was rabbinic training.  And that was required to make prayer shawl.

Sid: So you believe that Paul’s tent making, so to speak, was making tallits, prayer shawls.

Bill:  Absolutely.

Sid: By the way you have some fascinating information about the prayer shawl. For instance when the woman with the issue of blood reached out to touch the garment of Jesus, you don’t call it a garment do you. What do you call it?

Bill:  That’s the prayer shawl.

Sid: And why was that so important and you explain this in your footnotes.  “When she reached out to touch the fringes of the prayer shawl.

Bill:  Well the fringe, the tseetseet is the Hebrew word. The reason it was made is given in the 15 chapter of Numbers and it was made that all could look upon it and remember all the commandments and promises of God.  So that when she touched that she knew that on a holy man of God that that fringe represented all the commandments and all the promises for her, and those promises included her healing. For the Lord said “I am the Lord your healer.”  Way back in the wilderness he said that.

Sid: Now I just have a vision of someone putting the prayer shawl on that’s in dire need of being healed.  And when they grab hold of the fringes and I know that this is just a point of contact but there’s something so supernatural about the prayer shawl that when you grab hold of the fringes of the prayer shawl you’re grabbing hold of every promise in God’s word having to do with healing. That’s exactly what that woman with that issue of blood did.

Bill:  Absolutely, no question about it.

Sid: Okay, if you would teach further.

Bill:  Well there’s a another meaning to it; of course well, before I get to the next meaning, I want to say on the fringe the Greek work is consistent in using… in referring to the fringe.  It’s Kraspedon and it just means fringe, it never meant hem or anything like it.

Sid:  Well, where did we get hem from; rather than fringe? 

Bill: Who knows you’ll have to wait until you get to heaven and ask those that…

Sid: They did not… you know what it was the translators were great Greek scholars but they didn’t know their Jewish roots.  And let’s face it the New Testament was written for Jews in a Jewish nation by Jews.  I mean what do you expect give me a break you know.

Bill: (Laughing) Exactly. You’re right you know. And the other thing that I was going to get to in a different meaning that has been confirmed by using the Septuagint.  And that’s in 1^st Corinthians 11 getting down I want to read that whole paragraph.  But I’ll start with verse 14 “Does not nature teach you this that the man on the one hand has long hair it’s a disgrace to him.”  And of course that was the custom in the Roman Empire in the lst Century that men wore very short hair.  But on the other hand for a woman it is her glory.  Because the hair was given to her as an ornament in place of a prayer shawl.  And the word translated prayer shawl there is the same word that’s used in the Septuagint for prayer shawl in Deuteronomy 22:12.

Sid:  So you mean these woman that cut their hair to the point where you can barely see they have any hair today they’re not reflecting the prayer shawl.

Bill: (Laughing)

Sid: (Laughing) Is that what the word is saying?

Bill:  Yes.

Sid: I’m going to get into trouble. I better watch out.

Bill:  Exactly right well, woman wear prayer shawls today. And it’s a question of hair custom in the first century on that.  And I know that in conservative synagogues woman use prayer shawls.

Sid: And by the way I get questions all the time from woman that says “Is it acceptable for me to put on a prayer shawl and pray?”  And the answer is “You are free.”

Bill:  (Laughing)

Sid: You are a free person and if that’s going to enhance your worship of God and your prayer and your communion with God go for it.

Bill:  See the command is to put it on the corners of a square or a rectangular garment.  And the prayer shawl in the wilderness was their outer garment. And the 1^st Century Israel it was their outer garment that they still had and is more like a poncho with a whole cut in the middle.  In fact, the description of Jesus garment in John 19 that the soldiers cast lots for that fits the garment that was worn in the wilderness.  The poncho like garment and the fringes were placed on the corners.  And in fact a recent issue of Biblical Archeology Review had pictures taken in Jerusalem in the mid nineteenth century and there was several people in those pictures who were wearing garments that were not quite like the poncho but were very similar. And there’s no question that that’s what it was. And Rabbi Ben-Yehuda told me that a number of those garments dating back to roughly the 1^st century have been uncovered by modern archeology.  But again we are free. There is nothing in the commandment to put the fringes on the garment that says “Only men could wear those garments.”  It was just put the fringes on the garment and that garment described what the men were wearing at that time.

Sid: Bill just out of curiosity because you bring out these idioms that there is no way of understanding the Jewish roots of the faith. By you call it “The Power New Testament” because you bring out the tenses.  It becomes so alive. I mean I am so excited about this translation. What feedback are you getting not from someone like me that comes from a Jewish background but someone that’s never been taught these things when they read your “Power New Testament” for the first time, what do they say to you?

Bill:  We have a stack of letters people just saying how much it’s opened things up for them.  I got a letter from a pastor in Michigan just recently just said “Wow!”

Sid: We’re out of time right now Bill.

Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Pastor Charles Cowan he’s pastor of the 2000 member church in Nashville, Tennessee called Faith Is The Victory Church.  We’re interviewing him this week on his brand new book called “How to Deal With the Cares of Life.”  And before we went on the air Pastor Charles you started talking about the need for us to be in position and ready, explain.

Charles:  This is a crucial hour as we all know for the Body of Christ in the earth today. This is a time that the harvest that God is going to make a sweep across the world and through the nations of the world and bring the nations of the world into the Kingdom of God. Now how that affects every child of God is this is that every child of God has been given from God something that they are to supply to the Body of Christ that will aid in this end-time harvest and move of God.  So they have to be ready. I remember one time and talking about being ready that I pulled out a new Bible and my old one had you know had just about worn it out and I had all of the writings and things on the margins of my Bible like we do.  So I pulled out this new Bible and I drove up to Louisville, Kentucky my wife and I did my wife and I did. We went up there to be in a meeting with Brother Kenneth Hagin or to be in attendance at the meeting.  So when I got up there that day and walked in and Brother Hagin saw me I went up and I greeted him.  And he said to me “Well when you walked in here today into this meeting today and I saw you” and he said “The Spirit of God spoke to me and told me to have you teach in this afternoon’s service.”

Sid: Hm.

Charles: Well, I got a brand new Bible; I didn’t bring a note one and I don’t have anything written in the margins of this new Bible; in fact the pages are still stuck together.   

Sid: I’ve been in that position I know.

Charles:  And I said to him “Brother Hagin are you sure?” And he said “Yes, I’m sure.”  So we chatted a little bit and then I said to him again “Now Brother Hagin are you sure?”    And he said “Charles if I were not sure I would not have asked you.” So it was right then that I had to be ready to face what it was that he had asked me to do and had to be ready to do it.  Well you see that true in every area. Had I not been in prayer and in study the days or the weeks you see prior to that week going up to that meeting there I might not had been a position; I would not had been ready you see. But because of what I had prepared myself thought study and prayer and seeking God and that kind of thing then I was ready for the moment; I was ready for what God put in front of me right then and there.  So I got up there and I just began to take a scripture and I began to teach in the Spirit of God brought the anointing in there and thank God He came through and it was fine.  And you know the anointing was flowing and everything worked out because I was ready.  Now here’s the thing about it today, people in the Body of Christ now they may not be a minister but they have something to supply to the Body of Christ in this hour.  They need to be ready like I was ready at that time through their preparation and prayer.  

Sid: It reminds me of a woman that I interviewed that was just doing grocery shopping or shopping at a store and she goes to her car and all of a sudden there’s a gun in her ribs.  I mean how are you ready for something like that? If you’re not ready you’re not ready.

Charles:  Oh, I’m telling you. It’s like I have a missionary friend who was a missionary down in Mexico at the time and he had his…  He was driving his van and someone when he stopped at a stop sign someone just opened the door and got in the Van with him and put a gun in his ribs and told him where to go where to drive.  So he had him to drive out of town into a vacant field, or lot, and told him to get out of the van.  And he got out of the van and he told him to walk around to the front and he met this missionary in the front of the van and put this gun almost touching him between the eyes, not quite.  And was going to… and pulled the trigger on that thing.  And this missionary said that when that bullet came out of the end of the barrel of that gun it dropped immediately and fell to the ground.  He was ready he knew that no weapon formed against him would prosper.  Now you’ve got to be ready in a time like that because fear will absolutely just demoralize you at that point and time that you are looking down the barrel of a revolver.  And that guy you know he means business he’s going to pull that trigger.  If you don’t know you’re ready; I’m not just talking about ready to go the heaven that’s obviously very very that’s right on top of the list.   But if you’re not ready to confront a thing like that fear will totally dislodge you off of the word of God and you will then not be able to come though those things in that victorious way.  But he said that bullet came out of that thing and fell to the ground and he said it so terrorized or scared the man that did that that the man took off running and ran out of that field back up onto the road and left him there with his van.  God had delivered him because he was ready for the moment. That’s what we need to be here in this hour because we’re confronted with the terrorism that our nation, that the world is confronted with we need to be ready at all times at whatever situation or circumstance that we might find ourselves in. Or whatever God tells us to do, we need to be ready to face it we need to be ready to do it it’s a crucial hour.  I believe that God wants to use every person under the sound of our voice today; every person in the Body of Christ God want has something for them to do.  It has something that He’s placed within them to give to the Body of Christ to help compact and knit it together and make it to be the powerful powerful thing that it is in the world.

Sid: But that’s why you wrote this book because you explain that if we don’t deal properly with the cares of life it will put us out of position to be used in our destiny.

Charles:  Yes, and see what people have to understand is that I cannot supply to the Body what God has placed in them to give to the Body.  I can only supply what God has given to me; and with all of us working together and moving together and learning how to deal with cares of life, or learning how to deal with the pressures.  Learning how to deal with the stress that wants to come until we’re able to do that we’re not going to be able to give the Body of Christ what God has placed within us through your ministry and through your radio through your television ministry and the other facets of your ministry.  You’re giving to the Body of Christ what I could never give to the Body of Christ; but you’re giving it because you’re ready.  You are prepared for the moment for this time; you know how to deal with all of the pressures that come to you. And you know this we all know this pressures and cares in ministry come to us all. Just because we are ministers or have a ministry does not exclude us or eliminate us from cares or pressures and things that we can worry about if we could allow ourselves to do it. But yet we have to keep ourselves ready so that the ministry that God’s placed us in will not suffer because of our lack of readiness to carry forth the assignment that God has given to us. So we are ready to deal with whatever it is that Satan would bring against us to subvert, to undermine, and to destroy what God has called us to do in the earth at this time.  Every voice of God, not just a few, but every voice of God is critical in this hour because you are reaching people today; this broadcast is reaching people today that other ministry and other ministers cannot reach because God has assigned this to you to reach these people that you’re reaching today and we have to be ready in this hours. We cannot fail and we will not fail and we will be ready in this hour and in this time. And we’re going to have to do it by learning how to deal with the cares of life.  Not coping with the cares of life but dealing with them from the standpoint of God’s word and God’s power so that He can elevate us above them so that we can accomplish everything that God has assigned us to do, called us to do, equipped us to do.  And I believe that the Body of Christ is rising to that place today and I believe that we once again are going to have the voice in the world that God intended the Body of Christ to have.  We’re going to have that type of influence in these times in these days that we live.

Sid: You know Charles we’re out of time again; thank you so much for being my guest.

Sid: As you know I recently got back from Israel and I saw something, I’ve been going to Israel now since I’ve been a believer which is over 30 years. I have never seen what I saw in that land.  I saw an openness to the gospel.  I saw a hunger for God; I saw young people as open to the gospel as I ever seen in my life. Now I have found a strategy; if I will reach out to the Jew first it opens up a supernatural door to reach all people, but I have to have a method; how can I reach the Jew?  Ah, the Bible tells me; the Bible says “The Jew requires a sign” a miracle.  And so that’s why I’ve been pursuing to understand healing; understanding the supernatural of God because there’s a method; there’s a strategy involved.  If we can reach the Jew we can reach the world. And just think about it for a minute; God started with a Jew; the Bible says “Salvation is of the Jew.”  Where? In the land of Israel.  What was the job of the Jew?  The Jew was to be a light to the nations, the prophets tell us.  We’re to evangelize the world.   Well, we did a good job at the beginning but then we slowed down and turned the baton over to the Gentile believers.  But I believe that just before the Messiah returns and as the Orthodox Rabbis’ say “We are in the footsteps of the Messiah.”  That Jewish believers in the Messiah will be raised up red hot for the Lord from Israel that will take the gospel to the four corners of the earth.  That’s what we’re positioning ourselves for right at this moment.  I have on the telephone Pastor Bill Johnson; Sr. Pastor of Bethel Church in Redding, California.  And he has as part of the church the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry.  And he’s not just talking; he is doing the works of Jesus.  Let’s just get a little bit of a background Bill. You have such a godly heritage; tell me about it.

Bill:  Actually I’m a 5^th generation pastor on my dad’s side, and 4^th on my mom’s.

Sid: And your grandparents I envy them; sat under the ministry of Smith Wigglesworth and others.

Bill:  Yes, yes yeah.  Smith Wigglesworth; Aimee Semple McPherson; my uncle was actually a soloist for Aimee Semple McPherson, and my grandparents knew her and yeah…

Sid: So you heard these stories I imagine as a young kid.

Bill:  Oh yeah I got ruined by good stories, yeah. 

Sid: Yeah, but then when you went to these good spirit filled churches and you saw miracles every once in a great while did you get cynical?  Did you think “Well, maybe God doesn’t do it anymore; what was going on inside of the man Bill Johnson?”

Bill:  You know I didn’t have a clue what was going on. I couldn’t realize why it happened so long ago and it wasn’t happening today I couldn’t figure that out.  And I just kind of accepted it actually for quite a season until I was a young adult.  And then I started realizing that I had kind of the wool pulled over my eyes and realized there was something within reach that I could pursue if I was willing to go after it. So we did we started crying out to God for the real evidence of the gospel.

Sid: But you had something supernatural happen to you in your own home that kind of gave you a jump start maybe.

Bill:  Yeah, well it actually came several years after we actually started in this pursuit and even after we started seeing breakthrough.  But it was a major turning point for me; I had been… we had a powerful meeting a couple of nights and I was praying over an individual and just encouraged him that the Lord was going to visit him  and really touch him and it could happen any time of the day or night.  And I mentioned specifically it could happen at 3:00 in the morning.  Well, that night I went to bed quite late probably 1:00 perhaps as late as 1:30, but pretty late.  I was awakened suddenly out of an absolute dead sleep to absolute 100% awake in a millisecond, really difficult to explain.  I turned my head and I looked at the clock and it was 3:00 AM exactly and I realized I had been set up by the Lord as I was giving that word to someone else.

Sid: Huh.

Bill:  And it was like and it was hard to explain but it was actually like electrical current going through my body and I had absolute no control. And it was so obviously God; it was glorious but not pleasant if that makes sense.  It was pleasant in the sense of just knowing that God was doing a work; that it wasn’t physically pleasant.  I mean it’s electrocution my arms and legs were shooting out.  I felt like current was shooting out of them I had no control.  My wife was next to me in a waterbed completely asleep because I think the Lord had just put her out.  And He just began to deal with me and He began to remind me of my prayer for the last 10 months I’d been praying literally “God I want more of You and I want more at any cost.”  And I laid there for 20 or 30 minutes and tears just flowing down my cheeks onto the pillowcase.  And He took me to several scenes.  He showed me teaching in front of the church and I had no control over my limbs and what an embarrassment that would be.  And the next scene I saw myself walking in our town in front of our favorite restaurant and with the same condition realizing that I would be an embarrassment to my city; I would be an embarrassment to my church; I didn’t know of anyone who would believe me that this was God.  And it was really obvious what the Lord wanted to me; He was wanting to know if I really wanted more of Him at any cost.  I was reminded of Jacob when God touched him he limped for the rest of his life. I was reminded; I’m reminded of Mary the mother of Jesus; she bore the stigma of being the mother of the illegitimate child all the days of her life.  And those things just flashed before my mind as I laid there reviewing the prayer that I’d prayed “Do I want more of Him at any cost.”  And when that moment was over where He began to show me what it might look like; I may never recover; I may never regain control of my body.  That doesn’t sound even scriptural to anybody on the outside, but I knew what God was dealing with; He wanted my dignity.  He wanted me to surrender my right to having dignity.  I laid there and I said “I’ll take it if I get more of You you can have my dignity.  You can make me look any way that you want as long as I get a greater sense of Your presence in my life I’ll gladly take it.

Sid: You know in our culture I can understand why that would be a tough cost.  And say in the culture of Abraham he had to be willing to sacrifice his only son; the son of the promise.

Bill:  Yeah.

Sid: So cultures are different; in our culture for someone to start shaking is not really man pleasing, and we have a man pleasing culture.

Bill:  Your right; your right exactly.  We call it wisdom but it’s really control; we tend to shut down what God is doing because it’s an embarrassment to us and we can’t explain it.  And God explains Himself very well we don’t need to defend Him.

Sid: Bill, what should be normal? What in your opinion is normal?  Because you imply in your book, which we’re featuring this week “When Heaven Invades Earth,” that things as usual in the 21^st century American Church is not normal.  What is normal?

Bill:  It’s… the most normal thing for a Christian is to have a passion to see impossibilities of life bend the knee to the Name Jesus.  It’s abnormal for a Christian to not have an appetite for the impossible.

Sid: Give me an example. In your book you talk about a most unusual wedding; tell me about that.

Bill:  (Laughing) It was a couple of folks in our church; they met in our homeless ministry working with the poor and the broken of our city.  And they fell in love and they wanted to get married and they were in their 30’s and really didn’t need anything they already had their household settled.  And they thought “Well, let’s just invite the homeless and poor to the wedding.”  And then they said “We don’t need anything so let’s just register at Target and let’s just register for coats, hats, gloves and sleeping bags and then we’ll just give all the gifts away to the poor the honored guests of the meetings.

Sid: That’s not exactly the way it’s normally done in America but go ahead.

Bill:  No, it was the strangest wedding ever I’ll tell you.  Well, I met with them before hand and they said “Bill if you have any of those words of knowledge during this ceremony stop the wedding and we’ll pray for the sick.” So I realized man this is going to be a real different wedding. So they registered for coats, hats and gloves.  We sent the buses out; people found out there was a free meal so they came to the wedding quite frankly because it was a free meal.  And so they had prepared a nice tri-tipped dinner and we went through the wedding.  My brother actually his team led in worship first and prayed the sinners prayer with everybody in the room and then we had the wedding. But there was a man that had come there on the bus with a neck brace and braces on his wrist and a limp and a cane. And he was given 2 ½ to 3 years to live.  And I had…

Sid: In addition to all of this he was a street person.

Bill: Yes, yeah and this was at the beginning of the change of our perspective on reality where we began to value what God had said and what He had promised in His potential more than  what we were seeing.  So I actually had people with excitement in their voice and saying “Bill, there’s somebody here that only has 2 ½ years to live.”  And the thing that caught me off guard was the joy they had in telling me that; it wasn’t a morbid thing it was “My here’s another chance for God to do a great miracle.” So we went through the wedding and the bride and groom got behind the serving table and they began to dish the food out for all of the guests. And of course that was a remarkable sight by itself.  And my brother and I stood to the side and looked at the man with the arm brace and neck brace and all and invited him over and began to pray for him.  And he had carpal tunnel on his wrist and I asked him what was wrong and he told me.  And I said “How about if we pray for that” he said “That would be great.”

Sid: Bill, we’re out of time we’ll pick up here on this story on tomorrows broadcast.

Sid:  I mean look at the signs; open your eyes.  Wake up sleeper it’s time to stop sleeping God’s got a work for you to do. My guest pastor Hank Kunneman; he’s Senior Pastor of Lord of Hosts Church in Omaha, Nebraska.  On yesterday’s broadcast we found out that in 1986 he was commissioned, and told a bit about what his future was with a heavenly visitation.  He has been prophetic most of his life, so specifically. Tell me a bit about this visitation that you had in 1986 when you were commissioned, you started on yesterday’s broadcast if you’d complete that.

Hank:  In 1986 again as I was mentioning in another broadcast; what had happened was that I had had an angel show up while I was praying and carry me out to meet another angel that was upon a platform that had many many different kings and rulers of nations on the platform.  He also had me look out and see the tongues of the tribes of many nations and began to commission and tell me that I was called to nations to minister the word of the Lord.  He then pointed and told me I was called to minister to rulers of nations.  At that time before we ended the broadcast he handed a scroll to me and written upon it was Revelation chapter 10.  I was to eat the scroll much like the book of Ezekiel, but also we find in the Book of Revelation.  What was written upon it was these words and it said “Thou must prophecy again before many people, nations, tongues and kings.” Now Sid at that time I had no idea what was getting ready to happen; I had no idea that God would anoint me as a prophetic voice especially to America but also to the nations.  It was shortly after that that It’s Supernatural began to increase by a word of knowledge, by the prophetic anointing.  God would give me names of people when I would go to meetings.  He would call then out by their name and He’d begin to tell specific events that had happened in their life.

Sid: Tell me one specific case that comes to mind.

Hank:  There is one particular case that had happened; I was at a church service and I remember calling a woman out and telling her that within a year’s time the Lord was going to give her a baby boy and he would be like a Samuel.  That he would be brought to minister the word of the Lord to a generation. Within a year’s time she would be with this child which would be a son and which she was crying out for.  Well, of course I did see a bright light that appeared that it appeared over her stomach area and I began to describe to her that God was doing a work in her heart.  Well, she began to try to interrupt me and tell me that that wouldn’t be possible and I was so under the anointing I didn’t want to be disrespectful I told her “Mam you need to be quiet God’s doing a work in you.”  Immediately a man jumped up and said “Sir, you don’t understand it’s not possible.”  I said “Listen God is saying that within one year’s time you’re going to have a son.”  Now prophets can miss it; there are false prophets, there are wrong prophets.  And there are true prophets but in this case God was doing a miracle.  Come to find out about a year later I was at the book table and this woman came running up to me and said, “Look at what you did.”  Well, of course I’m a happily married to my wife for 15 years and counting.  I immediately looked at her and said “Woman, I don’t know who you are.”  And she started laughing and saying “No, no no no, you prophesied over me that I would have a son; she said “I am pregnant with a boy, the ultra sound proves it.”  She said “What you have to no preacher I had a hysterectomy.”  So I was amazed that God did a creative miracle in this woman. We’ve seen countless things like that where God has called people out by their name literally.

Sid:  Now when God calls people out by their name is it just the first name or is it the whole name sometimes.

Hank: Sometimes for example how it works with the word of knowledge at least in my ministry is sometimes the Lord will say “There is someone here named so and so you have this symptom.”  Other times I’ll look at somebody and like how the writing was over the wall in the days of Hezekiah, a writing, like a name, will appear over their head.  Sometimes it will appear above them.  I’ll point my finger to a gentleman perhaps John, if that’s the name that I see and of course you know they say yes.  Sometimes it’s been their last name; other times it’s been their address.

Sid:  Now you also said that you see a light, is this sometimes or is it many times and what does the light mean?

Hank:   Sometimes when I see this light it usually it means that there is angelic activity.  For example, there’s a lady that I called out a few months ago by name and I called her out and she came forward and the light appeared.  And again it appeared over her body which I knew it was the way that the Lord was showing me that there was something that was going on in her body.  And the Lord began to have me describe what the doctor said word for word against a symptom that was in her body in her female area.  She literally she could put her hand on her she could feel like this tumor or cyst I don’t remember which one it was, one of the two.  And as soon as a light appeared over her head I said “I know that the Lord is sending an angel to touch you in that area.”  Immediately she felt it leave and had no more pain.  So a lot of time that when that light appears it usually means that there’s heavenly activity of sometimes it can be an angel appearing.  For example I was in Siberia a while back and there was a light that appeared over a particular gentleman and I began to prophecy over him and tell him that “You are a pastor that God shows me that you are a pastor,” and he said “That’s absolutely right.”  I said “God tells me that you’re being persecuted in your city and an angel has been sent to you tonight to deal with one who has been persecuting you and your church.  By the end of the night God says the angel shall come and you shall see that God shall vindicate you and deal with this one. It was later that night and of course I didn’t know I didn’t have the word of knowledge about this, I just saw the light and I knew that an angel had come behind this pastor. Well, later that night the very key leader of the city died. Of course it was the talk of the whole town and they wouldn’t let me get on to the train because obviously things are in chaos.  So a lot of time the light is what I see is heaven’s activity or sometimes it’s when angels come in and I do a work of miracle or act of healing in someone’s body or just to bring a revelation that will help me to identify what is going on in their life.

Sid:  Hank just so our Mishpochah get to know you a little bit better you’ve had many prophetic words of internationally known people.  Tell me a few of these people and a few of the words that have occurred before the event happened.

Hank:  For example back in 1992 God showed me that Bill Clinton, at that time, and again this is not a political situation.  Again when you’re a true prophet of the Lord you can’t be politically persuaded you have to obey what God says.  In 1992 the Lord began to deal with me that Bill Clinton was like Saul was to Israel.  I know this isn’t popular but this is what He said “So would be Bill Clinton’s administration to America that it wasn’t really God choice but God would allow it because of where the people were at and the condition of the Body of Christ was.” The Lord began to show me that he would be elected for 8 years. And that it would be 8 years of unrighteousness.  Now people brag about the economy; but what people don’t realize is what was done in the high office of the land by way of perversion, by way of lying; by way of controversy, literally came down upon the nation.  And it was the various things that we had to battle against in this election of this year.   But what happened also was 1996 I was preparing for a meeting and began to pray and to be honest with you I was getting really tired and I thought I’ll just lay down. And immediately I went to go to sleep and I went off into like a vision or a dream.  And I literally was taken into the White House in this vision or this dream.  And I saw the President sitting at his desk and he had trash sitting all around his desk he had it underneath the desk.  And immediately as he was looking across his desk a woman walked into his office and began to seduce him.  She had brown hair and began to literally lift him up by his hand and they went off into this little closet.  And began to commit what looked to me like obviously an adulterous act.  So I knew at that moment that something was happening with our President.

Sid: Now how far in advance was that of the actual event with Monica Leuinsky?

Hank:  I’m not accurate on the actual time frame; I know that this was back in 1986.  And I’m thinking that it was about a year later or so or a little longer that President had to appear before the nation.  And I saw also the word impeachment appear on that particular vision…

Sid: What do you do with these vision of something of that magnitude when they happen?

Hank: Well, I always say this the prophetic sometimes… I don’t want to use the analogy of gambling so to speak; that’s not my point or poker so to speak,  I’m not trying to be off color hear.  I don’t endorse it; what I’m saying is sometimes you got to know when to hold it, fold it, and run okay. (Laughing) In this case there’s certain things a prophet will get that is to be prayed out.  Other times I’ll deal like Jesus did with His first miracle; he submitted it to the governor of the feast. He submitted it to the place that He’s being fed and to those that are in authority.  I think that a lot of times prophets are not under accountability and the tendency is there’s no one to judge their prophecies like you read in the Book of Corinthians.  A prophet prophecies; let another prophet judge. So what I’ll do is I’ll run it by my pastor who I’m submitted to.  Or I’ll submit it to the you know the fathers of the faith and say “Listen, I’m getting this from the Lord.”  Because some things are not to be…

Sid: By the way Mishpochah on many of these prophecies that you’ll hear there are others that have heard him prophecy this before the event.  Unfortunately many prophets that are even household words are what I call non-prophet.  There’s a mixture obviously because a true prophet hears from God and the prophecies come to past.  Hank, give me one more prominent person that you had a prophecy about.

Hank:  Well, I had a prophecy back in the year 2000; actually I was in Oklahoma City in 1999, May of 1999.  Actually I was getting ready to give the microphone to turn the service over.  I immediately fell to the ground and I was taken out in a vision and began to see God bringing; and I know others have had the same word.  I saw a bush that was burning and I had no idea what it meant but I began to see that God was going to come with His hand and begin to move across America.  And what I was in 1999 in May was I literally saw the 3 recounts that was going to happen in Florida.  Now at the time I didn’t know that was what it was; but I saw an evil hand raising up Al Gore out of the ground.  Now again, this is not about a political party, again I’m just tell you what I’d seen.

Sid: Oy vey we’re out of time we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.