SID: Julie, I heard you share about, “gotta get higher”. I have to tell you, I’ve been a believer many, many years, but it impacted, it convicted me, and it is necessary for you. Tell me briefly about it.

JULIE: Yeah. I had an encounter with the Lord. It was during our renewal services in Kansas City, and I was actually out for four hours. This was not a dream. It was an encounter. But I went down and all of a sudden, two angels picked me up by my arms, and I could hear their wings. These had wings. And I could hear their wings going [grrrr]. And both of them, they were saying, “Gotta get higher, gotta get higher, gotta get higher”. And I could see like this open portal, like I could see what I would have thought Jacob might have saw. And but I was hanging there, and I was hanging there for a long time, and they kept saying, “Gotta get higher, gotta get higher”. And in a dream or an encounter you’re still you. I don’t know any more. And in this, I turned around and I said, “What’s the problem? You’re an angel. I’m not that big.” I just didn’t get it, you know. And suddenly, this very large, like 30-foot grabbed me from the back of my collar and pulled me up, so I’m dangling right in front of his face. And he said, “It’s not them, it’s you. You’ve got too many gates open. Your mouth gate, your eye gate, your ear gate, what you say, what you listen to, what you watch. If you want to go up, you gotta close the gates.” And suddenly I heard, “Bam! Bam! Bam!” And I shot straight up into this portal, and that’s where these angels were just having me eat the scroll, eat the scroll, eat the scroll, eat the scroll.

SID: You know, can you see why I got convicted. And you know what? To be convicted, that’s not the purpose, but to repent and change, that is the purpose.

JULIE: And it’s daily.

SID: Right.

JULIE: I mean, it is a daily thing.

SID: Now Julie, you didn’t have a particular burden for the Jewish people and the nation Israel. But something happened to you that changed it all. Tell us about it.

JULIE: I had a dream and in the dream, Jesus took me, and he said, “I want you to meet my friends. If you know my friends, you’ll pray for my friends.” And I knew suddenly, as I looked around, I was in Jerusalem, and I was walking with Jesus, and I could see. I could see Yeshua. I could see his heart, his passion, his love for the Jewish people, but I could see at this time that they didn’t care and the brokenness of his heart. And suddenly in the dream, as we were walking, he began to look at certain people, and he would simply nod like that. And suddenly, that nod, it was appearing in my glory eye to eye and flesh to flesh. Suddenly, they saw him and I could see this awakening that they didn’t believe in Yeshua, but suddenly they did. He revealed himself. And they, there was a large group of rabbis. They were praying at the Wall. And he went up to this group and he looked at the rabbis one by one, and suddenly they saw him. Suddenly, they knew this is Yeshua.

[People chanting “Yeshua”]

JULIE: And they went up to their room, in this dream, and I was following them. In this dream, they went up to a high room and they were saying, “This changes everything! This changes everything!” And I knew that the day was coming, the hour was coming when the rabbis of Jerusalem would go up to the mountain of the Lord and shout out, “Yeshua is Messiah! Yeshua is Messiah! Yeshua is Messiah!” And that is the dream and I believe it.

SID: And I believe that now is that time. And in his name every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is the Messiah and Lord. And if you have not bowed your knee to the King of Kings, the Messiah of Israel, the King of the Jews, the Lord of Lords, now is that time. You make Jesus your Lord. You confess with your mouth, I believe that Jesus died and rose from the dead, and because of his wounds, my sins are totally washed away. I am righteous. I am clean and now that I am clean, Lord Jesus, come inside of me. Take over my life. I make you Lord of my life. I want to know you better. I want to love you more. I want my life to count. I don’t want to be like that girl saw her parents in Hell. I want to be in Heaven, but I want to walk in Heaven on Earth. And the only way I can do that is to know you, make you my Lord, read the Bible, and be true to you, and Love God, and love my neighbor as myself, and I can’t even do that without your help. Help Jesus!

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Sid: My guest I caught up with him in Richmond, Virginia but he lives in Israel with his family; wife and 5 children under age 10 Stan Goodenough.  He was a newspaper reporter in South Africa; now he’s a news correspondent in Israel.  Stan you’re in the media; I’m in the media; I have to believe that the biggest battleground for Satan is the media.  Is the minds going into the homes on the television, on the radio, going into the cars but it seems to be so biased, so wrong. Give me some examples of this and why is this going on.

Stan: I think that as you know especially Christians Sid who want to know and have an understanding of the times that we’re living in. If we take our information and base our prayer time even on what we hear just over the secular news media we’re going to be starting off on a false position and often from a biased and skewed position.  I believe that you know there are events taking place in this world there’s a battle for the soul of the United States going on. And it’s very evident to me that a visit to this country. And I’m here with my family for one year of traveling around and speaking about what’s happening in Israel. But what we’ve seen here is this incredible battle going on for the soul of America. There is a very, very important battle going on right now for the church. The church is being divided between those that stand with Israel and those that side against her.  And what you base yourself on as a Christian when it comes to an issue like the Middle East and Israel, I believe it should not be primarily the secular media because they set the tone and they are overwhelming. They have the dollars, they have the huge networks and the way of coming across that just affects hearts and minds in millions around the world. They are responsible more than any organ or any other mechanism; the media is responsible for the anti-Semitism that is igniting in different parts of the world today and for the negativity against Israel.  Christians need to know where they’re getting their information from and if they can find a Christian source to provide their information they should to there. Because at least then they’re hearing from a brother or somebody else who believes in the Lord. This is happening and I’m sure they come and listen to you Sid.

Sid: You know I have a question for you according to most of the poles that I’ve seen for president the democrats and the republican candidates are running neck and neck. It’s going to be just like the last election; you’re not going to know until the last minute. I happen to believe the deciding vote will be whether President George Bush sides with Israel of sides with land for peace.  Would you agree?

Stan:  I’m not sure that I would prophesy that Sid but I would certainly agree to this that by standing against Israel President George W. Bush can only be doing detriment and doing… it’s detrimental to his position and to his future politically. It must be detrimental; we’ve seen the experience of his father what he experienced when he turned against Israel. And I fully believe, I do not necessarily believe that if he doesn’t do a 180 degree turn right now on land for peace that he would lose the coming elections. But I think that his ability to affect and to be used by God in powerfully for the United States going forward will be directly affected by whether he makes that turn.  And it will have to be a 180 degree turn because he has personally, in his words, personally committed himself to dividing up the land of Israel.

Sid: Okay, I have to ask you this “Do you believe his father lost the presidential election because of his stand on Israel?

Stan:  I would say “Yes.”  I would say that was very….

Sid: Okay, I’m going to rest my case on that Stan.

Stan:  Hmm, hm.

Sid: Let’s go back to what’s going on with Islam worldwide; they are growing so rapidly I don’t know if you know this or not but they’re going to United States Universities. Going to the President and say “We would like to establish a (it sounds good) a school of Islamic Studies, we will build the building, we will get you the faculty and we will pay their salaries; would you like this asset?” And of course they say? “Yes.”  I mean, could the Islamic strategy be the same in the United States of America as it is in Great Britain?

Stan:  I think their strategy is the same all over the place.  They go in normally showing a humanitarian phase, a phase of academics or of social services. And that’s how they establish their network; they do the networking like that.  And people sign up and people support them. And in this way in terms of the United States and making this offer to the officials in the United States the Islamic will in a way puts the US in its debt because they are indebted to the Islamic movement behind this college or behind this education Institution because it’s all been given to the United States free of charge. And suddenly somebody has actually been bought and the Islamic world is very well known for calling in its debts.  And I think that Saudi Arabia has quite a strong influence in the White House because of debts that it has. But it believes that Americans have to it because in terms of all kinds of things.  It’s paid for scholarships for upcoming Congressman and it’s done all kinds of things, and it’s all good on the face of it.  But it’s a very devious and dark motive behind it and that is to take the United States for Allah and that’s what they’re after and they believe they’re going to do it Sid.

Sid: Well I believe that unless we take God’s word seriously and unless we fast and pray for.  Now by the way where it says in scripture “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.”  We don’t have to understand it; we’re just commanded to do this and that’s the only place in the world that we’re told specifically to pray for the peace of.  But what do you think that really mean, what are we praying for when we’re praying for the peace of Jerusalem Stan?”

Stan:  The scripture goes “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.”  And then it stops and it opens in various comments, or in quotation marks and it says “They shall prosper that love thee.”  We should pray for Jerusalem that those who love her will prosper because they’re more and more love her and support her.”  That’s how the Psalms describes it.  And I fully believe that when we pray for the peace of Jerusalem we are not praying for the success of land for peace process, we’re not praying for the success of the Madrid or the Oslo agreements. We are praying for the peace that only God can bring; only the Messiah can bring. To come and come quickly to that land; we know that it’s going to happen.  And I believe that’s what we should be praying for.  Jesus gave us the same words, when He said pray “Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.”  But the coming of His kingdom and the setting up of His kingdom in Jerusalem peace will come.

Sid: And I heard your teaching recently on Isaiah Chapter 62 verse 67 “On your walls Jerusalem I have appointed watchmen all day and all night; the will never keep silent; you who remind the Lord give Him no rest, give Him no rest until He establishes and makes Jerusalem a praise on the earth,” comment.

Stan:  We all watchmen on the wall if we are tuned into what’s happening Jesus gave us that command, we are watch and pray. Watch first so that we can pray and know what we’re praying into. We are watchman on the wall, we see the enemy coming, we know what God’s plan is for Israel if you know the word, you know what His plan is for Jerusalem.  What His plan is for the Jews, what His plan is for us.  We’ve been grated into the olive tree. We know His plan and we see the enemy coming, we see him rising up like a cloud like a dark cloud covering the land. And as he comes and he descends and he prepares to destroy Jerusalem, to destroy Israel is what the enemies of Israel is really trying to do. We see it coming and we can pray “Lord, prevent this and remember your word.”  And we can remind God of all of the promises He made.  “That you’d bring them back and you’d settle them in the land and you’d root them there and you’d plant them there and you’d watch over them to do them good. Those are your words God, those are Your promises, remember them, remember them, remember them.”  That’s what we do as watchman.

Sid: You know Stan, you made the comment that many Israeli’s feel that in 50 years there will be no Israel.  There’s such a sense of hopelessness there, such pressure. What will this hopelessness and this pressure cause to happen in Israel in your opinion?

Stan:  Right now it seems to me that they looked everywhere; they’ve looked first of all around them at Egypt and they’ve tried to lean on Egypt and to trust in Egypt and they still tend to do that because it’s fighting to watch because Egypt is so dedicated to peace, still dedicated to peace partner or not to Israel’s destruction.  And then they’re looking to the west and specifically to the White House and they’re looking to America to stand with them and support them. And when America lets them down as America has done, not always but has done; then they flounder around they don’t know who to turn to.  Well, God’s calling on them to turn to Him, he doesn’t want them to turn first of all to United States, He wants them to turn first of all to Him.  And He’s waiting like the father of the prodigal son He just waiting to see that turn, that change and He’s going to come and embrace there. I really believe that.

Sid: Stan I can’t think of a better time to be sharing the love of God, the love of the Messiah without limitation on secular media than right now.  I can’t think of a better time.  See I think that Germany is going to turn horrifically anti-Semitic; it’s already but turning even worse anti-Semitic. I think all of Europe is going to do this.  Obviously all of the Middle East is going to do this.  And even here in the west with the Islamic stronghold that’s being the beachhead that’s coming here in the west; they’ll be no place.  We must get the message out to Jewish people the doors are open for me in a supernatural fashion.

Sid: God has a strategy, the strategy is we show a miracle we demonstrate a miracle and that demands the attention of the audience.  I have to tell you I’m really getting upset over the amount of time devoted on Christian radio and Christian television for vitamins and alternative medicine.  It seems as if the emphasis is there as opposed to the supernatural of God.  So you can understand why that upsets me; however I recently got a hold of two books by a Doctor, Dr. Ray Strand. One book is called “What Your Doctor Doesn’t Know About Nutritional Medicine May be Killing You.”  The other book is called “Death by Prescription.”  This is the most balanced approach, I mean there is a great deal of confusion about vitamins, about herbs, about eternal medicine, about diets.  And you’re going to be outraged when you hear some of these things because you know though God will protect you when you take poison there are many people that don’t have their faith at that point.  And there’s a lot of medicine out there that’s literally killing you. And so I have on the telephone Dr. Ray Strand.  Ray you were telling me before we went on the air the number 3 cause for death in America. Would you tell me that again?

Ray: Well, the number 3 cause of death in this country is medication. And people are not aware of it. In fact Sid, if you take properly prescribed properly administered medication it is causing over 100,000 deaths each and every year and that would make it the fourth leading cause.  If you add the improperly prescribed medication or taken medication it adds another 80,000 deaths each and every year. So it becomes the 3^rd leading cause of death in this country.

Sid: And you understand this better than me but I was raised as a child when I would go to the doctor anything that they would say that was truth, that’s I would do.  I wouldn’t contest it; I wouldn’t go for another opinion; whatever my doctor told me. But then as I got older I recognized that there was a lot of guess work going on.  And you make a statement in your book that I want to quote “That we cannot rely on doctors we must do our homework.”  Give me an example as to why this is true.

Ray:  Well, the main thing is the fact that when the FDA releases a drug to the market to be used by the people that are in your listening audience they know less than half of the serious adverse direct reactions. The way that they find out the others is what I call “The great clinical trial” which is you the patient.  So even if the doctor is knowledgeable on everything; which most of us only know the major drug reactions. What happens is the way we find out all the others is when people start using this in large quantities, then we find out the other adverse drug reactions. And so every drug has an adherent risk and so you need to become familiar with what they do know and at least conscious of the fact that jeepers you could react to any medication the doctor prescribes. It’s not that he’s doing things wrong it’s just the nature of medicine itself.

Sid: Now you talk in your book in the introduction of the book “Death By Prescription.”  You talk about a young child named “Heidi.” Tell me about Heidi.

Ray:  Well, Heidi was a daughter of a neurologist that I practiced with in Rapid City here, and his daughter came in with pneumonia.  And Heidi actually had a severe atypical pneumonia and we gave her a drug called Erythromycin; this was the proper one. But we also gave her a little Tylenol to keep her fever down.  Well, about 3 days into treating her pneumonia her liver enzymes started to rise dramatically. And of course I was a younger doctor then and Dr. Savo is a gentleman’s name we realized that things were wrong and so we cut off the medication realizing this could be a problem. And we had to air ambulance her up to the University of Minnesota Children’s Hospital.  While I was there that they said that she had an allergic reaction to the Tylenol and it was causing liver damage.  And this was a real shock for me as a young doctor and dealing with my first real serious adverse drug reaction.

Sid: Tell me about in the first chapter you talk about Cynthia.

Ray: Well, this is a gal who actually it was not a patient of mine I knew her from other sources. But she actually had been prescribed some actual hormone replacement therapy because she’s going through menopause and experiencing hot flashes.  And actually wasn’t too bad, but the doctor had actually promoted it to her as a situation where she actually felt that it was going to prevent heart attacks and strokes and help maintain her bone density. And about 7 months after being on this hormone replacement she suffered a heart attack. And everything else checked out fine, but in the end the cardiologist kind of told her that he thought she suffered the heart attack at age 49 because of the hormone replacement therapy.  And that’s what the literature’s now showing us.  This happened several years ago but now we’ve had 2 major studies come out last summer showing that actually hormone replacement therapy increases the risk of heart attack and stroke in our woman.  And it does not decrease it and they’re basically recommending that we don’t use hormone replacement therapy for long term prevention of chronic diseases.  Now if you need it to get through the menopause sometimes we have to use it. Of course, I like natural hormones but that was Cynthia’s story.

Sid:  In your book “Death By Prescription,” there’s another sacred cow, the FDA and you explain who few American’s understand what the FDA does and why it’s so important; and why there maybe some financial ulterior motives.  I wonder if you would explain that.

Ray: Well the FDA obviously is the Food and Drug Administration and they’re there to protect us and make sure that what we eat and what we take in medication is safe or as safe as possible.  But what happened is that the FDA was very very strong in protecting us and in fact the statistic that hit me as a doctor was the fact that before 1990 of all the drugs release worldwide to the public only 4% of those drugs were first released in the United States.  Well, this bothered a lot of people we had the AIDs epidemic, we had cancer patients who wanted a lot of the drugs that were in other counties but not ours.  So there’s a lot of pressure on Congress to get our drugs approved quicker and faster and more frequently. So they past the User Fee Act in 1992 which made the pharmaceutical companies pay a fee to the FDA to get their; you know help get their drugs approved.  Well, that user fee then created what I call the deadly partnership. In other words, the group that they’re supposed to be protecting and actually monitoring is actually now supplies over 50% of the budget for the FDA.  So over half of the budget of the FDA comes from the pharmaceutical industry through these user fees. So if I want to get a drug approved by the FDA and I’m a pharmaceutical company I have to pay; originally it was a quarter million dollars, $250,000 was paid to the FDA to get your drug approved. Since that time now over 60% of all of the drugs released now worldwide are first released in the United States. And the number of drugs being approved has accelerated; it used to take an average of 24 months to get a drug approved by the FDA that dropped down to 12 months and they have a rapid, what they call a fast track method of getting drugs approved. And you can get drugs approved within 6 months. And so it’s totally changed how the FDA looks at things. It used to be the FDA used to say “Should this drug be approved for use by the public?”  Now, the attitude seems to be “How can we get this drug approved to be used by the public?”  And so it’s a real change in the FDA and the way that they approve our drugs and they protect us and our safety.

Sid: But you in your book “Death By Prescription” that’s a pretty shocking title.  But I mean the average doctor if they see your cholesterol numbers are wrong will give you medication.  And the average doctor if they see your blood pressures a little high will give you medication.  You’re pretty negative on this medication.

Ray: Well you know Sid I want to make a statement.  I really believe medication is very, very important; it has saved a lot of lives, it has helped a lot of people  But I think that we need to adopt an attitude to use medication as a last resort not a first choice. And what you’ll find is all almost the top 7 or 8 killers of us, you know the leading causes of death in the US and the western world is the result of a lot of our lifestyles.  In other words, you take diabetes, heart disease, cancer, cholesterol, high blood pressure, osteoporosis; all of these really major diseases are strongly related to patient’s lifestyles. So if people would just improve their lifestyles…

Sid: Now you’re saying that but I have to tell you I look at all the different diets that are all contradictory, one contradicts the other.  I look at all the different claims on the various vitamins, I look at all the various claims on the various medication and I have to tell you doctor it’s confusing out there.

Ray:  Well and you’re right Sid and the more you learn the more confused you get and I guess that’s where I feel I would like my role to be is to try to look at the medical literature and give  a practical common sense solution that anybody can do whether they’re traveling, eating at home or whatever. And this is where the truth is because there’s too much hype and none of the diets work.  And none of them are really all that healthy and people gain the weight back.  What I try to promote are healthy lifestyles and just happen to have a side-effect of fat loss, but at the same time you decrease your blood pressure, you decrease cholesterol; you decrease your risk of heart disease and diabetes.  And this is where people need to be going because that’s the true preventive medicine.

Sid: I’ll tell you what we’re out of time; we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.