Sid: Now I have in the studio Pat Holliday from Jacksonville, Florida. I tell you this is way I like to see evangelism it’s supernatural evangelism. Pat found herself in Jerusalem, Israel and this is back in 1975 at a Katherine Kuhlman service and she started talking in unknown tongues to Jewish people. She speaks no words of Hebrew, but she spoke to them and they understood exactly what she said. They responded to her, she didn’t know what they were saying, and then she felt that she was supposed to lay hands on them and they all experienced encounters with the Spirit of Living God. She found out later that she actually told them to come to the Lord in tongues and if they wanted to let her lay hands on them. She laid hands on them and there was some 25 people, is that right Pat?
Pat: Yes, all men.
Sid: Twenty-five Jewish people. That’s the way that’s my kind of evangelism. But something else happened that was very interesting. You had been a very sickly person.
Pat: Yes.
Sid: I guess being involved in the New Age that drains you really bad.
Pat: Oh it makes you really sick.
Sid: Before you had your deliverance and you became a child of God but still your body had a toll it paid a price. But you were at a Katherine Kuhlman service in Jerusalem and what happened to you?
Pat: Well I was standing out in the lobby I had given my seat up for the Jews because they require a sign. And I had seen her before.
Sid: Oh, there are a lot of Christians say “Oh God I want to miracle ministry,” they don’t know the reason. The reason they want a miracle ministry is to reach the Jew. The reason they want to reach the Jew is so the middle wall of separation comes down. There’s a dynamic Pat when a Christian, a gentile Christian and a Jew become one a body of Messiah it’s a chemistry, it’s a chemical equation. As the Book of Amos says “Then the rest of the Gentiles come in.” The devil trembles when Christian’s understand this fact. So you had given up your seat.
Pat: Yes, and 2 men came up to me and they said “We have a seat down front for you.” So they took me by the hand and led me there. I sat and the Spirit of the Lord came upon me and He took His two fingers put them on my eyes and it put me in a real light trance. I could still hear things around me but I was like totally submitted to the Lord. So the Lord told me He said “Pat, I’m going to heal your body today and I’m going to heal your husband when you go home and I’m going to save him.” He told me… when He said that it was like a bucket of oil was poured over me. And I just moved my neck all around and I felt like that tin man in the wizard of Oz when they oiled him up. And he said “Oh I can move” and he was dancing, and that’s the way I felt. And so of course when I got back home my husband was healed. And…
Sid: And what about you?
Pat: I was totally healed I’ve never been sick.
Sid: Instantly?
Pat: Yeah. I haven’t been to the doctor in 27 years Sid the Lord does it for me all the time. How can I come and tell you that Jesus can heal you if I can’t believe that for me you see? Doesn’t mean I don’t get under attack because sometimes I do you know but from that moment is when the Lord started bringing the Jews to me and they would receive the baptism. But when I got back home Sid my family thought I’d had a face lift because when the Lord wiped His hands across my eyes it took every wrinkle out, every wrinkle. And then Parson Carson even thought I’d had a face lift.
Sid: It sounds a lot better than a face lift to me.
Pat: Yeah, oh yeah and I said “It’s time Lord for you to do it again.”
Sid: (Laughing)
Pat: And I don’t think I don’t I don’t think I have a lot of wrinkles on my face anyway, but hello, hello. (Laughing)
Sid: No, no actually I’m not going to give away your age but how many years ago was that?
Pat: Thirty years ago.
Sid: But I’ll tell you what we’ve got several females in the engineering room right now and I can tell both of them are saying “I want a Holy Ghost face lift.” (Laughing)
Pat: (Laughing) a huh.
Sid: (Laughing) Oh, now they’re getting mad at me. I’m going to get into big trouble.
Pat: Your getting worldly, but anyway when I came back home I was attending this little prayer meeting and people just started coming in and getting healed. And I’ve seen the Lord do so many miracles. Miracles to me is normal, that’s normal Christianity.
Sid: Okay, I’ve got in my notes the most wonderful story. His name if I can say it his first name is Kevin.
Pat: Right.
Sid: And he had AIDS. Now that’s a death sentence when you have AIDS. If you have HIV it may or may not develop but if you have full blown AIDS that’s a death sentence. What happened to Kevin?
Pat: Kevin was in the Intensive Care Room and Marilyn his mother the doctor told her said “Let’s just turn the machines off he’s going to die. She said “Let me pray,” she prayed. And then she called the lady over in Orange Park Ronnie Bowater. And she said “Get to Pat Holliday the Lord will heal him.” She brought him over to the church and he could hardly breathe he was right off of the intensive care. And so when I laid hands on him first Sid I cast the devil of AIDS out. And I know that a lot of people are not going to believe that but it is a spirit. Then I laid my hands on his lungs and prayed for healing. Well he went to the doctor and got clean paper, you know got healing paper. Then he went back out on the 18 wheeler truck that he’d been driving before within 6 months. Well he found a wife out on the road and married her and they produced a child called Clarissa. And Clarissa is 4 years so Kevin’s still alive so he’s…that was four years ago. And Clarissa, they brought her to the church and you know generational curses the sins of the father comes down on the children.
Sid: Oh, a lot of people are fighting what are known as familiar spirits that have been in generation after… have you noticed that if someone’s an alcoholic they have a father or a mother that was alcoholic and keep going back.
Pat: Hmm hm.
Sid: Those are those familiar spirits that passed on from generation to generation.
Pat: Well they brought Clarissa to me when she was maybe 6 weeks old and I just laid my hand on her and I commanded the spirit of AIDS to leave that child. And you know Sid that girl had manifestations just like an adult person getting deliverance. Her face twisted, her little arms stretched out, her little body was moving all around thrashing. That child coughed a few times and she’s been healed ever since. That little child is a joy to her grandmother I can tell you that.
Sid: Pat you told me about this fellow who was alcoholic he had this gigantic beer belly, he fell down and he had to be hospitalized. What happened to him?
Pat: Well I went over the intensive care, well the operation. The doctor came out and said he had burst his bladder. He said he had never seen anybody live from that. And he said “We tried to sew it up and we glued it.” So I went over every day for about a week praying for him.
Sid: Well that doesn’t sound too permanent gluing a bladder.
Pat: Well Jesus has got a glue too. (Laughing) because he’s still alive that’s been 4 years ago or longer. And he’s still alive.
Sid: Pat when you pray for someone that needs a physical healing do you pray by faith primarily, or do you pray just for people that God tells you to pray for?
Pat: Well miracles to me is normal, healing is normal to me I just believe God can do it. Then too Sid there’s something called a gift of faith. All of us have faith to heal the sick but there is a gift of faith. That gift is God faith and I’ve prayed for people actually that I didn’t believe could be healed.
Sid: You know Pat in Mark 11:22 in most Bibles it says “Have faith in God.” But in the Greek it says “Have the faith of God.” And that’s what you’re talking about.
Pat: But you know Sid in prayer lines throughout the years people have come up to be healed and I would look at them and my mind would say “Everybody’s going to get healed but you.” I remember down in St. Augustine a man came through the prayer line and he had rheumatoid arthritis and his knees had drooped over until they were about touching the floor. And he drug himself up to me and I looked at him and that’s the thought “This is too much for God.” Well you know what happened.
Sid: What’s that?
Pat: He got healed, his bones straightened out.
Sid: So your telling me it wasn’t your faith at all it had to be God’s faith. That’s my kind of faith, I don’t want faith in God I got that. Lots of people have faith in God, I want the faith of God.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth