Sid: My guest by way of telephone is red hot for Messiah his name is Keith Davis I’m speaking to him at his home in Orange Beach, Alabama. Perhaps you’ve read a number of his prophetic articles in various Christian publications. Keith I understand in May of 2001 your wife had a prophetic, was it a dream?

Keith: Well actually it was in prophetic experience and heard on audible voice so it was not really a dream more like a vision of the night. And she heard an audible voice say to her “We must go back to 1941.”  And the significance of that was we were preparing for an intercessors gathering in Jacksonville, Florida for the specific purpose of praying for the Jewish nation, the nation of Israel and America. And when the conference began we shared what she had received in the audible voice and felt like the Lord was telling us we must go back to the condition of the nation in 1941 and the bombing that took place on Peale Harbor on December 7^th and how that surprise attack on our nation galvanized the nation as a whole to support, fully support the war and to make the enemies of Israel our enemies.  Up until that point we had not really fully committed our self the nation was divided in support of the war but after that surprise attack the nation was completely galvanized in unity in support of our committing our full military forces against the armies of Germany and the full commitment of World War II.

Sid: Now how does this tie in with the tragedy of the terrorist attacks on September 11^th?

Keith: We feel like now with the surprise attack that happened on December excuse me on September the 11^th that now we have fully committed our resources now the nation is galvanized just as it was in 1941 in full commitment to the war on terrorism to fight the very terrorist machine that’s been terrorizing Israel for years. We have, as a nation, held the hands of Israel behind their back and refused to allow them the full support they needed to battle the terrorism and now the very enemies, the very spiritual forces that were opposing Israel we are now also making our enemies so in that respect it’s done the same thing this year that happened in 1941.  And from our perspective that’s the thing that we’re coming away from this incident from the 11^th most emphatically with although we recognize that there are other things that maybe coming out of it this is the single thing that has been for most for us as we join the Lord’s heart of intercession for the nation of Israel and also for our nation as well.

Sid: Has the Lord given you any insight as to the destiny of America as to whether they’ll be more of these attacks or in any of these areas?

Keith: After the attack occurred on the 11^th the Lord spoke the Lord spoke very specifically that we were to strictly go back to prior prophetic words that we have brought and re-exam those words in light of the events of the 11^th. And in doing that we first went to a word we brought in 1999 called “The Lord’s heart of Intercession.”  And in that word Bob Jones had had a vision seeing that a national calamity was at hand and that the church needed to join the Lord in His intercession because a number of things were planned but if we would pray then those events could be staggered. But he was strictly shown…

Sid: Excuse me what do you mean by staggered?

Keith: Well they would not all occur at one time.

Sid: But they would occur?

Keith: But there would be some things that could be curtailed. Frankly we think there are some things still being planned against our nation and the word that we brought even last week that “Many things hang in the balance and the direction that our nation takes and even the ability of the terrorists to continue what’s already been planned lies in the hands of the church.”

Sid: Well what would be a bad direction for our nation to take?

Keith: Well a bad direction would be if some of the influences around our political leaders and particular our president were to steer him away from full and complete support of Israel.  We believe that is emphatically important that our national government as well as the church stand in support of Israel in this particular hour because now their enemies have become our enemies. And if anything takes place that is paramount right now it is that we stand unified galvanized in our support of Israel in every respect militarily.  Now the church must stand with Israel in prayer praying for the peace of Jerusalem. I do believe we do believe that there has to be some form of retaliation if you will some form of response to the terrorists for what they have done a detriment. But it needs to be the right response there…we’re really asking those who support our ministry to pray earnestly that the Lord gives our president the wisdom to make the right choices. And even those responsible for the terrorism be exposed and dealt with harshly.

Sid: Now we’re supposed to pray for wisdom and protection and intimacy with God for the president of the United States but do you have any insights into which way to go on this issue?

Keith: Well we’ve been in contact with some people that have access to the President and from what we’re understanding there are 2 schools of thoughts that are being presented to him. One is the one that we would certainly support. There is another school of thought that is also being presented that we feel like it would be a great detriment. And so our prayer has been that the president will only give heed to Godly wisdom the divine counsel that’s being presented to him particularly as it relates to Israel but also as it relates to the other issues in our nation.

Sid: Paint me a picture of what might happen if we take the wrong road in reference to Israel what might happen to America.

Keith: Well in the vision of 1999 the Lord stated clearly that there were a number of things that were planned against our nation.  And the Lord said He is for us and it is not His desire for our nation to fall but He wanted to use our nation as a great vehicle in the harvest but if we do not come away from the incident with the right response I’m afraid that there may be another chastening if you will that will drive us closer to that decision specifically our economy.  Just recently the Lord released a revelation showing that it was the enemy who was trying to bring great hardship in our economy.  And that this terrorist act and all of the consequences of it are to hinder our nation from being the vehicle that it’s intended to be.  But the Lord is saying “If we will pray, if we will join in His heart of intercession He will turn that around and all of that will be restored and multiplied form.” So if we don’t make the right decision I’m afraid that we will be in for some more hardship.

Sid: If we make the wrong decision will there still be revival in America?

Keith: We believe there will be; we believe that the Lord is going to have His revival. I believe that we can have it much sooner and with much less hardship and difficulty if we will respond to the Lord the way that He is asking us to. And here again we’re strictly just analyzing the events of the 11^th in line of prior words.  Another word that came was a message in 1998 actually called “A Message of the Cross.”  And in it we saw a great memorial that had been erected in our country.  It was a symbolic indication of our trust and our faith had been put in our accomplishments of man and we saw something coming from heaven that stuck this memorial that was erected to this accomplishment of man.  But as soon as it came down an image of the cross began to be erected in fact in the vision the way that the cross was being erected was identical to the Iwo Jima memorial where the American flag was being erected but instead of being an American flag it was 12 humble soldiers erecting this cross replacing the accomplishments of man with faith in the cross. So I believe that the Lord is going to have His revival, I believe that there will be a renewal that sweeps our country and I believe the 12 humble men represented the apostolic government that He is beginning to bring to his church with fresh revelations of the cross for our nation.

Sid: In light of everything that you know what advice would you give our listeners.

Keith: The word that we’re continually being given day after day is prayer. To join the Lord in His heart of intercession and to those that have supported our ministry we’ve sensed specific things that we’re asking that are being prayed. First and foremost is that we must pray that our nation and the church stand with Israel that cannot be compromised!  The second thing that we’re asking that the Lord release wisdom to our president to make the right decisions to make the right choices in his response the terrorist act. We’re asking that the terrorists be exposed that the Lord would supernaturally unveil their hiding places that He would exposed those responsible for the terrorism. Then we’re asking the people to pray that the Lord would send renewal that there would be a softening of our heart and that we would repent of placing our trust in man. You know Jeremiah talked about it that “Those that place their trust in flesh will be gravely disappointed but those that trust in the Lord will be like a tree planted by a river.” And that’s what we’re asking the people to pray that those things would be released. And it’s really a parallel to the presidential election.  And in 1999 the Lord gave us a word about the presidential election and that he ultimately that decision will be made by the church.  And I believe that the tie that occurred between the 2 candidates that whole issue hung in the balance and 2 diametrically opposing paths for our nation and because of the willingness of the church to pray we went one path. If this is identically the same thing the direction of our nation is hanging in the balance and it will be the willingness of the church to pray.

Sid: Over the next 12 months do you have any insight as to what will happen in the stock market?

Keith: Well according to the revelations we’ve been getting the Lord is going to restore the economy that’s the word He gave us.  Now he did not give a timetable he did not we feel like a lot of that will be determined here again by our responses; the responses as a church make right now and as we stand in the gap as did Moses for our nation I think that will determine how quickly that recovery will come.

Sid: Keith we’re out of time thank you.

Sid: My guest by way of telephone I’m speaking to him at his home outside of Akron, Ohio is Rick Neill. We’re interviewing him on his brand new book, literally just off the press, “Ultimate Glory.” The thing that excites me about this book Mishpocha is there’ve been many scenarios on how the end time events will be, but you know none of these scenarios are really and truly based on the Old Covenant festivals. As I explained on yesterday’s broadcast God Himself tells us that these festivals, or the Hebrew word is these God appointments or holy convocations. In the Hebrew holy convocation means rehearsals. So God is already telling us if you’d like to know how the play ends look at the rehearsal. Most Christians don’t have a clue about their Hebraic roots because they were stolen and replaced with Greco-Roman roots. That’s why there’s so much confusion and controversy in the last days, but God does not want it to be a mystery to His children. So on yesterday’s broadcast we found out that the feasts are divided into 2 seasons so to speak. There’s the spring feast which were perfect shadows of the first coming of the Messiah, and then there are the fall feasts which again are perfect shadows of the return of the Messiah. Now one of the things that God… Rick really thinking along these lines has to do with the understanding of a wedding. A wedding, a Jewish wedding in the east is so different than what we have as weddings, even Jewish weddings or all kinds of weddings here in the west. So when we look at the parables of the Messiah the people when He said that they knew in cultural context what He was talking about, but today we put His words in our 21^st century western cultural context and get the wrong conclusions. So let’s start at the beginning again to understand what a Jewish wedding was like in the times that Jesus wrote all of these parables about the last days. Rick?

Rick: The things the Lord really used to get me started down this line there is something He stirred inside of me about the word mansion. What is turned out to be was we understand in the west the word mansion to mean like a 23 room estate with managed gardens, but the Hebrew word for mansion is more of an intimate place for the bride and the groom, a bridal chamber. Once He started me down that line of thinking He began to show me other things and how it works out is that with the wedding the way that it is Biblically, the bridegroom would come and propose a wedding covenant for the bride. He would come and set a goblet, or a glass of wine before the bride and before the bride’s father. He would propose a marriage covenant and he would in that covenant state what he would be willing to pay for the hand of his bride. The father would look over the covenant and it would be presented to the young lady and often times the young lady would be making her decision on whether or not to marry this bridegroom without even ever having seen him. But the proposal of marriage would be made and if she would receive the proposal, if she said “Yes” she would drink from the cup. The drinking of the cup they were considered betrothed, that doesn’t really mean engaged the way we think of it. What it means is that they were married but they were not to be together yet, they were husband and wife at that point but they couldn’t be intimate because at that point when she said “Yes” by taking and drinking of the cup the bridegroom was told that she had accepted his offer and he would go home to his father’s house and he would begin to prepare the mansion, the bridal suite. It would be the father’s decision, not he son’s decision as to when the bridal suite was finished. The son would work on the bridal suite when it was finally finished the father would give the okay to the son to go and sweep away his bride, to go in the middle of the night and to take her away, to catch her away. Well while this building was taking place of the mansion the bride would keep herself pure. Once she drank of that cup there was a veil to be worn over her face. From that day on that veil spoke of the fact that she is separate, she is to be separate onto her bridegroom that she is spoken for that the price has been paid for her, and that she is already spoken for. So she would each night go to bed and take her lamp with her because she did not know what night the bridegroom would be coming for her. She would take the oil and take the lamp, so that when the building was finished and the bridegroom did come that the best man would come with the bridegroom and with a shout he would awaken the bride and take away the bride and they would be whisked back to the bridal chamber, or the mansion, where the marriage would be consummated at that point.

Sid: The thing that’s so amazing in our understanding is here in the west we combine the wedding ceremony and the wedding feast, but how was it in Biblical days?

Rick: The wedding ceremony itself wasn’t going to happen until after the marriage was consummated because as they came back to the mansion when they came there the best man would wait outside the door after the marriage is consummated, and once the marriage is consummated the sheet that had blood on it from the first time that they made love would be shown as a sign of virginity, sign of purity which would mean that the wedding would proceed. Because at that point if the bride herself was not a virgin she was eligible to be stoned, that’s in Deuteronomy 22 that’s one of the ones that really got me started down this line. The whole idea of the wedding… the first emphasis is of a catching away, or the surprise taking away by the bridegroom. Then the next emphasis is on purity, that if the bride who the bridegroom comes for has not kept herself pure that she would be cut off at that point.

Sid: How does this pan out with the current thinking of say a little prayer with Billy, live like the world and when you die you have a life insurance policy to go to heaven, once you say that prayer no one can ever take your life insurance policy to heaven away?

Rick: The key to salvation is lordship, it’s relationship with Jesus. In Matthew 7 Jesus said “Not everyone who says to Me ‘Lord, Lord’ but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.” We can also see this in how Jesus addresses the 7 churches in Revelations where He talks about “I know your works.” The whole emphasis on Passover and the early feast days was on faith that we get into the kingdom by faith. Now our lifestyle once we enter by faith must be a lifestyle of faithfulness. That the Lord has called us to follow His Lordship that we can’t call Him Lord and ignore His dictates to our lives. That He has a specific destiny birth in everyone of us, that we have a specific target a specific destiny that we each are to fulfill for our Lord and as He walks us down there it’s the works, it’s the obedience, it’s doing what the Lord says that keeps us in fellowship with Him and we can’t ignore Jesus and call Him Lord.

Sid: The message I’ve been getting is the prophetic word I’ve been getting is “It’s time for separation.” What would that mean to you?

Rick: To me that is to lay down anything that is coming between Jesus and me. It doesn’t have to be black backsliding sin it can be in my case, my personal case, sports could become an idol in my life…

Sid: Now if sports was not an idol He wouldn’t tell you to lay it down.

Rick: No now there is nothing sinful about watching a football game, but where the problem comes in when I let that become too big a part of my life; when I spend more time investing my time in football than I do in reading the word and fellowshipping with the Lord, and interceding for His people. When I let things become more important than Jesus then that’s when He will come and tell us to separate that those things are sucking life. He has an awesome destiny set before me for my life and He has an awesome destiny set before you for your life. But there are also booby traps that the enemy tries to get in there to get us off track to suck that life of God out of us to where we will be spending our energy and resources in wrong areas.

Sid: You know when I read your book “Ultimate Glory” and read what the shadows of the fall feasts show I think it would cause someone to be very nervous if they understood what’s going to happen on the Day of Atonement.

Rick: I agree, I agree. Those who have a very shallow relationship with the Lord, those who believe they just have to say a prayer and they’ll go to heaven when they die that these feasts days, these fall feast days are really going to shake them up. But on the other hand those who have a heart to really serve the Lord, those who have really made Jesus Christ their Lord those who really want to fulfill their destiny, those who want to walk in Godliness, those who want to fulfill everything the Lord has predestined for them, these fall feast days will birth such hope in their hearts. That’s what it’s done in me.

Sid: I’ll just give our Mishpocha a little clue, we’re about ready to walk into the greatest revival the world has ever seen. The question is not whether we are going to walk into or not, the question is are you going to walk into it?

SID: So let’s just start out with basics. What does decree actually mean to you?

BRENT: Well in Job it specifically tells us that we are to decree a thing and it shall be established. The Bible tells us that, “Death and life are in the power of the tongue and they that love it shall eat or possess what they speak.” And decrees are about authority. When we decree it says, “Decree a thing and it shall be established.” Now one of the most powerful things about a decree is that if you and I are going to sit here we’re going decree prosperity over somebody or even the atmosphere, we would say, Father, in the name of Jesus, we decree prosperity in the name of Jesus and we receive all of the supply of Heaven. What we just did is we only didn’t receive the positive side of the prosperity, but with a knife we sliced poverty off in one statement. Remember the Bible says that the two-edged sword, you know what I’m saying. So there’s our two-edged sword right there, and those words, we are literally co-creating with God just like he did when he spoke light into existence, those words, the words created the light, so our words are faster than light. So literally, when we speak, when we decree, we set on fire God’s plan to begin to burn upon the earth and to cause his Glory to manifest.

SID: All right, that begs the question. When you decree God’s promises you do it out loud. Does it matter when you do it out loud or just do it to yourself?

BRENT: You always want to do things out loud, especially anything decreed. The Bible says, “Faith cometh by hearing.” And so if I hear my voice, if I hear myself decree, decree, decree, I decree this, I decree that, after a while my faith is going to go, whoa, oh wait, there’s something that’s happening right here. I can grab a hold of that and I can possess that.

SID: You say you should decree your today to establish your tomorrow. Now comment on that.

BRENT: You know, the thing is that we can go nowhere unless our words have come before.

SID: That’s profound.

BRENT: So basically it’s that prophecy or prophets, prophetic are speaking events without the cause. Decrees is the same thing. When you decree the life force of that decree through the Word of God, the establishment of the Word of God, you actually cause a greater level of authority because it’s the legislative authority. It’s courtroom authority. It’s Heaven’s courtroom authority and it causes us to step in and possess the unseen. When I decree that I’m going to be a blessing, that I’m going to be blessed, I’m talking about tomorrow. So when I open up my mouth and I decree, I’m actually decreeing my words for tomorrow. So we decree. We say, I decree. By his stripes I am healed. Doctor rings the phone, you’re sick. By his stripes I am healed. You get another report. By stripes I am healed. And you keep decreeing and declaring, and speaking, and praying, and singing, and possessing. And after a while, your mouth sets that thermostat where all of a sudden, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal.

SID: I don’t know about any of you, but he’s getting me pretty excited. How about you? Okay. Tell me about, you teach on a concept I’ve never heard it referred to this before, supernatural time travel. What are you talking about?

BRENT: Well it’s kind of like beam me up, Scotty, so to say. But what it is, is the Bible tells us that we see in part and we prophecy in part. So if I’m going to give you a prophetic word, Sid, I’m basically handing you as I give you the words, I’m actually giving you a key to go seek God for the missing piece. Now when I speak to you I’m seeing tomorrow and let’s say you got a bad report from the doctor and he’s given you six months. If I tell you, no, no, you’re going to live for seven years, I just stepped in the supernatural time travel with my words. I created a cause without the event yet happening or the event without the cause happening. It works both ways and literally you, all you have to do is get one day, pass one day of the six months and you already broke the curse. So you time travel with your words. The Bible says, “And upon this time, about this time tomorrow, I’m going to be walking in more than I was walking in today.” So as I speak those words, God is saying, oh, and when it happens is you unlock and you possess the unseen realm. The unseen realm comes in, faith ignites, you speak it again and all of a sudden, you got a hundred tomorrows. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

SID: When we come back, I believe there will be such power on these spoken words as he speaks them over you that your literal life, destiny, direction, families, every fiber of your being is going to be supernaturally changed for the better when we come back. I know you’re not going away.

be afraid. God is always saying, do not fear. Moses says to them, do not fear. That’s the spirit of fear. He said, because God has come to test you. What’s the test? That his fear may be in you, so you may not sin. Wait a minute, Moses, you just contradicted yourself. Don’t fear because God has come to see if his fear is in you? He’s not contradicting himself. He’s differentiating between being scared of the Lord and the fear of the Lord. There’s a difference. The person who is scared of God has something to hide. What does Adam do in the Garden? He runs from the presence of God, because why? He’s got now the spirit of fear. But the person who fears God, they’re terrified to be away from God. So if you want a definition, the first primary definition of the fear of the Lord it’s to be scared, no not scared, it’s to be terrified to be away from God. If you look at Lucifer, he led worship in Heaven, but he didn’t fear God, so iniquity was formed in him. If you look at a third of the angels, they’re in Glory, but they didn’t fear God, and they’re no longer in Glory. Every single creature around his throne throughout eternity, I believe is going to be tested in the two major things: the fear of the Lord and the love of God. Those are the two forces that keep us on the road of life.

SID: Moses wanted the presence of God above anything.

JOHN: Yes he did.

SID: Above everything. You want the presence of God. Tell me about the presence.

JOHN: You know, Moses, think about it, had the best life a human being had on the planet. He had the biggest house, the wealthiest grandfather. He had servants. He had everything he wanted, but yet he left it. Israel was abused by that same society. They have stripes on their backs. Their children are being put to death. They come out and they’re constantly saying, let’s go back to Egypt. It was better for us. Why? What’s the difference? Moses longed for the presence of God. Israel longed for what God could do for them. They wanted a promised land. See, Moses, God actually offered him. He said, “Hey, go ahead, go to the Promised Land. I’m going to send an angel, but I’m not going.” Now if God were to say that to Israel, if they were to be taken to Egypt without an angel, they would have taken the Promised Land with an angel. I’m sure of it. But Moses said, “If your presence doesn’t leave with us in this place of suffering, this place of lack, this wilderness, I’m not leaving and don’t take us out of here.” Because what Moses was communicating to God is, if I have to choose, I would rather have your presence over your promises. Israel wanted his promises over his presence.

SID: We’re after the promises and not the presence. When we have the presence, the promises are there. It’s called favor. I mean, my brain keeps going tilt on some of the teaching that’s relevant today that is based on prophecy that says there will be deception in the last days.

JOHN: That was the temptation of Satan with Jesus. Flesh, first one, rock. God wants you, doesn’t the Bible say, “I’ve never seen the righteous forsaken or seen begging for bread.” There’s your bread. Convert it. The next one was everything your eyes can behold, the lust of the eyes, all the kingdoms of the world. Just worship me. Worshiping is just who we obey, not who we sing to. Our greatest form of worship is obedience and that comes out of a heart that fears God.

SID: Is Jesus your savior or your Lord? I want you to say a prayer with me, but mean it. This is going to make the difference between knowing him or knowing about him. Repeat after me. Dear God, out loud, Dear God, I’m a sinner against you and you alone have I sinned and I’m so sorry. I make you my Lord and Savior. Lord Jesus, give me the enabling power to have your presence wherever I go. Come and live inside of me. Amen.

JOHN: Amen.

SID: Now many of you had heard about confessing God’s Word. As a matter of fact, the major scripture was when Joshua was taking over, God gave Joshua some advice. What did God tell Joshua?

JONATHAN: Well understand that Joshua was now given the responsibility to follow in the footsteps of Moses and lead about three million Jewish people into the Promised Land. And you can imagine that the—

SID: You could have ten Jewish people and you get 11 opinions. Three million, wow.

JONATHAN: You do. And I think he had a lot of insecurity and God at that time spoke to him and said, “Joshua, you’re going to be successful and I’m going to tell you how. The way that you will succeed is by meditating on my Word day and night,” and then he said this, “keeping it in your mouth.” If you go back to the word “meditate”, Christian meditation, Sid, is connected to the Hebrew word, “sekah”, which means to reflect, to think, to ponder. But the Hebrew for, the real Hebrew for meditating used in that verse is “hadah”. We get the word “Haggadah” from that, to tell. It means to mutter, it means to utter. God was saying to him, not just to keep the laws of God in his heart, but to speak them forth day and night, to constantly keep them in his mouth. It was talking about confession. And God said, “You’ll be successful in all you do. You’ll prosper if you keep my Word in your mouth, if you keep uttering it, muttering it, confessing it.” Why? Because faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. And I believe Joshua confessed the Word of God. He kept hearing over and over, hearing here and then hearing in his spirit. And when it got into his spirit, that 19 inches between the head and the heart, all faith is released and that’s where we live. That’s where the Spirit of God lives in our spirit. And we have to build up our spirit. How? Praying in other tongues and professing the Word of God.

SID: What you’re doing is you’re almost rehearsing what God is saying over and over, and over again. And it’s becoming a reality, a dynamic reality on the inside.

JONATHAN: It absolutely is. Confessing the Word of God is absolutely biblical. It’s powerful, it’s life-changing. And I saw this very specifically as a pastor when a woman that had been suffering from depression, acute depression most of her life. And Sid, she carried this as a cloud around her, just oozing depression and it, she had been to doctors and psychiatrists, and psychologists. And I was counseling to no avail. And I started praying for her and the Lord just spoke to me about giving her some scriptures to confess. And so I cut the hour short, and I said, “Here’s what I want you to do or I’m not meeting with you next week. You look in the mirror and you confess these scriptures.” And I had written down some: “Whoever the son sets free is free indeed. Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. Where the Spirit of God is there is liberty.” Less than a week later, she came back to my office. She was smiling for the first time I had ever seen her smile. She had been completely delivered, not from counseling appointments, but by confessing the Word of God and it got into her spirit. She was delivered instantly.

SID: Now you have a little switch on this. You say there is power in the original Hebrew language in confessing God’s Word. Explain that.

JONATHAN: Well there’s a couple of things with Hebrew. First of all, Hebrew was the language known as the tongue of the prophets. The Old Testament, the original language of the scriptures was Hebrew and some teach, and I’m a believer in this, that when God spoke the world into existence, by the way, the Bible says that the tongue has the power over life and death. There’s life and death in the tongue. The tongue is a creative force and what separates us from all of God’s creation is articulate speech. I believe that when God spoke the world into existence and said, “Let there be light,” it was in the Hebrew language. So I believe that Hebrew itself as a language is a creative force. Maybe it’s the tones or whatever, but it’s a creative force. But there’s something else about Hebrew. It is a super language, Sid. Do you know what I mean by that?

SID: What do you mean?

JONATHAN: Okay. I saw you drinking some green juice.

SID: You don’t have to tell everything.

JONATHAN: I saw it. It was all, it’s got kale and it’s got all kinds, it’s a superfood.

SID: Right.

JONATHAN: Because it is all these nutrients pressed into it. There’s superfoods that are packed with nutrients and super vitamins, and so on. Well Hebrew is a super language. Example, “shalom.” Contained in “shalom,” which means peace, we have the English peace, shalom. But “shalom” has 20 other meanings. It’s completion, it’s welfare, it’s wholeness, it’s wellbeing, it’s security. And then the Hebrew word, “yireh,” that word, we say “provide,” but the Hebrew word means abundance. The Hebrew words means to bless, to prosper. It means success, it means sustenance, it means fulfillment, protection, shelter, graciousness, enjoyment. It means rain.

Literally, God will bring rain, yireh, he’ll bring rain in the dryness, revival.

SID: So what you’re saying is that when we proclaim God’s promises in Hebrew, you get the full meaning of what God meant rather than that one English word in our translation.

JONATHAN: You get 30 words in one word.

SID: Okay. But most people can’t speak Hebrew. I took bar mitzvah Hebrew. It took me years to learn Hebrew.

JONATHAN: I studied Hebrew from childhood. I hated it. I was a bad student.

SID: But there was a method developed called transliteration. Why was this developed?

JONATHAN: There is a solution. When the Jews of Europe who were raised in the whole yeshiva program and Hebrew was part of their prayer life and their study life from childhood, moved to America, they began to go through a secularization and they lost the Hebrew language.

SID: Right.

JONATHAN: Well the way that the rabbis came up was a brilliant way, came up with a way to use Hebrew in the prayer books is called transliteration. It’s taking the Hebrew and using phonetic English to actually spell out the Hebrew. So, “Shema Yisrael Adonai Elohenu, Adonai Echad”, God is one, in Hebrew most of us know that in transliteration, we can actually read along with the rabbi and participate in the service without actually learning Hebrew. It takes five minutes. I knew your question, five minutes.

SID: Anyone interested in speaking biblical Hebrew in five minutes?

JONATHAN: No studying, no background. Five minutes you’re speaking Hebrew.

SID: That’s my kind, now I see all these things selling languages. I like the five minute variety. When I come back, wait until you hear about this tribe that Jonathan found. It’s one of the lost tribes of Israel right in Africa that they did a DNA study on. It has, Lemba tribe people have higher high priest or priestly DNA, they’re called the Kohens, than any other people anywhere. We’ll be right back.