Sid: My guest right here in the studio is John McTernan we’re featuring his brand new book “Israel the Blessing or the Curse.” This book has information that every Christian and non-Christian in America should know because the non-Christians will become Christians and the Christians are going to be red hot for Jesus. I mean if this is not the most amazing thing John where you have proven that every single time, no exception, that the administration of the United States comes against Israel or the Jewish people in some anti-Semitic fashion, or against what God has covenanted within His word. Within 24 hours the first greatest natural disaster in history hit America; the second greatest disaster in history hit America and on and on and on one case after another.  You even pointed out in your book that the 3 greatest natural disasters insurance wise came right after an anti-Israel stance by the United States.

John: Sid I’m looking at a copy of the Washington Post dated October 24, 2001 and this is first page business front page business section and it says “Putting a price on what if’s.” And they list you know for insurance wise how you know what do insurance do with great disasters? And it lists the first 3 disasters and I’ll show them to you…I’m showing them to you Sid. The first one insurance wise is Hurricane Andrew it’s about 20 billion dollars and that occurred exactly precisely as the Madrid Peace Process had been moved from Madrid, Spain to American soil while they were meeting on American soil in Washington, DC. Hurricane Andrew slammed into Florida as the first hurricane disaster America’s ever had.

Sid: And the Madrid Peace Process again is Israeli land for peace.

John: Yeah as we…as they were bargaining so to speak for the land of Israel for the United States our own land was suffering its own natural disaster. The second one was the Northridge Earthquake and that occurred within hours after President Clinton meeting with President Assad of Syria and in a very forceful tone telling Israel it had to give up the Golan Heights for peace. Now we discussed that kind of at length how dangerous that…first of all it’s covenant land that God gave to Israel. Second of all have dangerous militarily that would be for Israel to give up the Golan Heights for quote peace.  And actually the greatest one was 9/11 and I’m showing you that there now. So the first one was 9/11 but that was not a natural disaster that was man made but none the less that’s the greatest disaster. The second one is Hurricane Andrew that was a natural disaster, the third is the Northridge earthquake which was natural disaster. And 9/11 came precisely as we had formulated our policies. The President of the United States formulated a policy that we were going to unilaterally we were going to tell Israel that we were recognizing a Palestinian State with East Jerusalem as the capitol and that we were going to put an Embassy there. Within 2 days of 9/11 we were going to notify the Saudi Arabian Ambassador so he could tell the other Muslim countries. And this was going to be announced at the United Nations on September 23 and of course 9/11 stopped us in our tracks.  And the very terrorist that were attacking Israel and causing Israel to live in terror were now attacking the United States.

Sid: And the thing that is so amazing to me Mishpochah is John also shows in addition to this would have been enough but there are parallels there seems as though there is…it’s just like there is a spiritual bond between true Christians and Jews. There’s something supernatural. You tell me you don’t have a love for the Jew in Israel I think you better check out whether you have the blood of the greatest Jew that ever lived flowing through your veins Jesus. And if you don’t I suggest you get saved. But not only is there that spiritual linkage between true Christians and Jews there is a spiritual linkage between the United States and Israel. Every time something happens in Israel something happens in America, explain.

John: Sid this is really amazing but when you look we’ll go back to the year 2000 and you remember the Camp David meetings?

Sid: Sure.

John: Where Arafat came and we tried to force Israel and the Palestinians into this agreement. And really I’m showing you the headlines here Sid it broke down over Jerusalem.

Sid: Hm.

John: Those agreements failed over Jerusalem because the Palestinians wanted complete control of the Temple Mount and the Israelis would not give it and what happened was two months later in September rioting started in Israel over the Temple Mount as a matter of fact. And right now it’s known as the Al Aqsa intifada. And the Al Aqsa mosque on top of the temple Mount. Now Sid what happened was the Israeli government was destabilized as a result of this fighting. Barak who was the Prime Minister of Israel his government suffered what they call a vote of no confidence.  And it’s a parliamentary type of government it’s a little hard for the Americans to understand but the government exists because it has a vote of confidence amongst its legislators.  When it doesn’t have a vote of confidence it don’t have a government they have to call for elections. So the rioting destabilized the Israeli government; they had a vote of no confidence, they literally had no government although he functions as the head of the government.  Now Sid if I would have told you coming in early 2000 that we wouldn’t have a president elect for 6 weeks because of the election process and that we were going to be destabilized and the election was going to go to the Supreme Court you would say to me “John this is bazaar we’ve got the most stable government in the world.”

Sid: Mashuga you’re crazy.

John: Right wouldn’t you say that?

Sid: Sure.

John: Sid our government was destabilized almost the day to the Israeli government was destabilized.  And see we were the ones that forced Israel into this meeting with Palestinians at Camp David.

Sid: There’s such a spiritual connection tell me another example.

John: Well well let me just finish that because I didn’t even finish that yet it gets even better because while the Israeli government was destabilized…

Sid: Right.

John: When they finally came and I want to show you these here these articles. While the Israel government became stabilized is when they agreed to have elections. Okay?

Sid: Hm.

John: So here we go…

Sid: So it’s parallel after parallel.

John: Israel Prime Minister says he will resign December 10, 2000.  Divided US court orders freeze on foreign account. A couple of days later the Supreme Court voted for George Bush and he became President. So the Israeli government was destabilized a couple of days later our government was destabilized. The Israeli government stabilized when they held elections and a couple of days later our government was stabilized and the Supreme Court ruled President Bush became you know the President elect.  It almost to the day it was almost about maybe a week over lap on each end.  Now who would ever think that the most stable democracy in the world would be destabilized like that but not only was it destabilized we were destabilized exactly during the time the Israeli government was destabilized.

Sid: Give me another example of the parallel.

John: Well starting at this point in September of 2000 right on Rosh Hashanah the intifada started and Israel was being subjected to horrific terrorism. Now there always has been terror incidents in Israel but horrific. I mean we could go example after examples of suicide bombers going into pizza parlors and going into disco techs and I mean just horrendous killings snipping and all of that. Well almost a year to the day because in Israel it started on September 28, 2000.  On September 11^th of 2001 the very same element of terrorists that were attacking Israel now are attacking the United States. We were under attack just like Israel was.  And Sid it gets even deeper Jerusalem has become the center of these terrorist attacks in Israel. Jerusalem’s the Capitol of Israel; the United States became the center in New York. But the United States Washington became the center of the attack as one of those planes attacked the Pentagon.   From what I understand it flew directly at the White House. They thought the plane was coming directly at the White House and it went and hit the Pentagon. So Israel’s Capitol Jerusalem is under attack by these terrorist and the United States Capitol Washington DC is under attack by virtually the same elements suicide terrorists, amazing Sid.

Sid: You know Mishpochah if this was all there was it would be amazing but just like every time the United States the administration comes against Israel within 24 hours there’s a tragedy in America. There parallels are over and over and over again. John your book “Israel the Blessing or the Curse” why in your heart of heart’s did you write this?

John: Sid I wrote that to in my heart to wake the church up to support Israel. And I also wrote it Sid because many Jews are ignorant of the covenant that they have how important the land is Sid. And I wrote that to encourage the nation of Israel to stand on that covenant in face of what we’re doing, in face of what the United Nations is doing in face of the world to stand on that covenant and have the God of Israel defend them.  Also that the church would understand the importance of that covenant and stand beside the Jewish people.

Sid: You know I believe that this is going to be the churches greatest hour you know Paul says that there are literally spiritual scales on the eyes of Jewish people. I believe the acts of love by the church standing up bold for the Jewish people in Israel at this point are going to be equivalent to what Queen Esther did to spare the Jewish people and it’s going to release one of the greatest revivals the world has ever seen.

Sid:  My guest by telephone Dr. Dell Sanchez unbelievable what we’ve been talking about this week. He has gathered a list of 6,000 Spanish names that have Jewish blood. Where did you get these names from Dell?

Dell: Oh, many of them were the compilation Sid from many resources, many archives and documents across the South Western states of the US.

Sid: Tell me one, tell me one place that you got it from?

Dell:  One place, oh my goodness, one place was a University of Texas here in San Antonio.

Sid: How would they have it?

Dell: A very famous one is the archives that are especially put together in the University of Arizona in Tucson a tremendous collection there.

Sid: Now if someone reads this list that’s Spanish Hispanic the 6,000 names they were to find their name there what would the probability be that they do have Jewish blood and their ancestors were among those that fled the inquisitions in Mexico, or the US, or Spain?

Dell: Based on my research Sid and really being a careful observer of these matters there a high probability that they had Jewish blood particularly given the situation of their historical background where their grandparents were born, how they got over here to the New World from Spain.

Sid: Let’s pick up right there for a moment we were talking on yesterday’s broadcast about Columbus and 1492 but you have a very interesting history in which there were 3 very wealthy Spanish Jews that had a private meeting with the King and Queen just before the mandate that they leave by 1492.  Tell me about that meeting.

Dell: Yes.  There were 3 Sephardic extremely wealthy Jews, extremely noble Abrabanel, Santangel, and Sanchez. They were there trying to persuade and to bribe the King Ferdinand and the Queen Isabella not to go ahead with the expulsion decree that is of expelling the Jews from Spain.  So they offered from this untold amount of money. Now a lot of people giggle when they say “Queen Isabella sold her jewels” to finance Christopher Columbus voyages when actually she sold her Jews, los Judios, the Jews. So these 3 Sephardic men were the ones that actually funded the voyages of Christopher Columbus.

Sid: So it was Jewish money that funded Columbus found the New World.

Dell: Exactly.

Sid: And he thought he found India and that’s why he called the inhabitants Indians a lot of people don’t know that that’s where Indians got their name.

Dell: Exactly, exactly. It was a providential act of God that God raised up if you will a man, a Gideon in that land that was in this case Columbus to be able to bus out of Spain wave after wave, after wave, after wave of Spanish speaking…

Sid: But these 3 wealthy Jews they really wanted royal decree that the Jews would not be expelled what did the King and Queen decide? Obviously they were expelled but what happened?

Dell: Good question because ease dropping behind the chamber door you know of this private meeting between King, Queen and these 3 wealthy Jews was Tomas De Torquemada, was the the Inquisitor General and he was the personal confessor of Queen Isabella like Católica, she’s known as Isabella the Catholic. When he heard that the King and Queen were going to ahead and go not expel the Jews from Spain, he dashes through the door waving his crucifix say now you know ranting and raving and you know saying “Now the blood of these Jews will be on your hands,” so they reneged instead of going ahead.

Sid: Did they take the money?

Dell: Yes they took and they went ahead and they still expelled the Jews Sid.

Sid: Huh. What a curse over a country to do something like that and the way you’ve explained the torture the Jews had in that country.  You know it reminds me, and this might surprise you of Argentina and the reason it reminds me of Argentina, is Argentina has had the longest standing revival I think in history and yet the country is economically going under. So the pastors got together and they had a prayer meeting why is this happening in a country with such revival?  And they don’t know well I know, I know because Argentina took in a lot of money, it was called gold teeth and where did they get this gold? From the Nazis that they were harboring and that’s why that curse has hit Argentina. But what I would like to find out from you, and very few people in America is the inquisition the torturing of Jews jumped from Spain to Mexico and parts of the United States.

Dell: Yes.

Sid: How did that happen?

Dell: Well what happened is that the Jews the Sephardic Jews were called in Spain and Iberia the la gente prohibida, meaning the prohibited people.  The prohibited people of the what, the prohibited people of prohibited from coming across the Atlantic into the New World. They were not supposed to they could be anywhere else but not into the New World. So they began to discover early in the 1500’s that we were multiplying our people, Sephardim was multiplying and quite successful. Well how did they get here and what were they doing. Well what occurred quickly in the early 1500’s I’d say by 1515, 1520 the Franciscans was sent by the order of the Spanish inquisition to establish a Mexican inquisition high tribunal in Mexico City, but also one, subsequent to this in Lima, Peru, and one in the Inca, Columbia.

Sid: But how did they know that there was so many of these Spanish Jews that went there didn’t they hide the fact they were Jewish?

Dell: Well the fact is they’re were a lot of crypto Jews, they were actually they thought that they’d have full freedom over here as much as Don Reese’s family, his sister, his nieces and nephews, they thought they’d have the real liberty of just continue with their Jewish lifestyle over here in the New World.  But…

Sid: And they never thought again it’s so parallel to the blacks in America when the blacks thought they were safe because they came to the north and then the slave trader act was past and they could come to the north and get them it was very parallel.

Dell: Exactly, yes so what happened is that quickly they have to become what’s called Crypto Jew, Jews in secret. You know by day they are Catholic and by night and in secrecy they are Jewish. You know so that’s what occurred, now in the process there’s another term now here more of recently I may add is that many of our own Jewish Sephardic people are saying are acknowledging themselves not so much as Marrano okay as a Marrano, but Anosim. I have been in Israel…

Sid: What is Anosim mean?

Dell: And they asked me who are you, what’s the link of your Jewish heritage. I say I’m Anosim they immediately know to have been one of those that’s been forced, that has been coerced, manipulated and as a people raped. They immediately embrace me, that mean embrace my people as one of their own brothers and sisters.

Sid:  Now when the inquisitors so to speak from Spain came hunting Jews in Mexico and these other places what happened when they found them did they have any rights there?

Dell:  What happened is that some of them had some rights like for intense Don Reese had right of this huge amount of territory owed by some of my fellow scholars as known as the tragic square. It’s the big huge square of course I don’t think it was exactly a square, but what happened is when they discovered when the Catholic inquisitors then transferred power to the Dominicans within 5 to 7 years after they took control. They fueled the inquisitional fires, la jasoheras, that burns at the stake. They just fueled the investigations and the tortures so that…

Sid: They burned Jews at the stake?

Dell: Yes! Yes they were burning…

Sid: The same type of torture that went on in Spain?

Dell: The same thing was happening in Spain was happening here in Mexico City.  And they were fetching the Sephardim from all across Mexico.  Remember many of them came north as far north as possible away from the high tribunal Mexico City. So much so that they had to come, and as I said the earlier end of the broadcast come across the river away from the Republic of Mexico into Texas, New Mexico.

Sid: But you told me they weren’t even safe there!

Dell: They weren’t even safe there; what happened is that this is what has occurred in the Spirit of God was revealing to me and I didn’t have the documented fact up until last year. I had this you call it theory it was more of a revelation of the Spirit of the Living God Sid that there was something wrong. In fact if I may add we were in a major mission we were in a conference God gave me an open vision in Soul Korea and open vision of a mission of a Spanish mission. And I thought “What in the world is going on?” There was a lot of details to this vision we were attending a conference with Dr. Paul Yonggi Cho in Sole Korea. And God gave me this open vision in fact I shared this vision with my people and Robert Rodriguez, an old friend of mine, painted the object of this Spanish mission.  But I didn’t know what that meant; I didn’t know Sid for years and years I didn’t know why God would show me a mission in a typical territory of the Southwestern part of the United States or Northern Mexico.  And I thought that it meant maybe I had a mission in life such as television ministry or etcetera but low and behold I discover by the Holy Spirit revealing to me that very missions became eyes of spies. The missions if you trace them…

Sid: I’ll tell you what Dell it’s too important hold that thought will pick up here on tomorrows broadcast.

Sid: Hello Sid Roth with something more and Jonathan you have such a… and by the way my guest is Jonathan Bernis the head of Jewish Voice. You’ve probably seen him on television but Jonathan and I friends and we’re going to let you eaves drop on our conversation. You have had a passion for years for confessing God’s word, why?

Jonathan: Well very simply two words: It works.

Sid: I like that.

Jonathan: It does (laughing) it absolutely works and I’ll tell you very the story how I came into this. I was counseling a woman, and one of the things that I least enjoy to be, between us just the 2 of us (sound of microphone being rubbed)…

Sid: You just hit your mike again (laughing).

Jonathan: I know, I know.

Sid: (Laughing) Okay.

Jonathan: I was going to hit my forehead and I missed. Oi Vey! But one of things I least enjoyed when I was leading a congregation, pastoral minister was counseling. I was counseling a woman week after week, after week that had severe depression.

Sid: By the way, Jonathan was single for many years and women would come to him for counseling (laughing). God told them they were supposed to get married.

Jonathan: (Laughing) Yeah I’d find out later. I did this for 9 years I pastored for 9 years and there was a woman severely depressed, clinically depressed. She had been like the woman with the issue of blood to every psychologist, every psychiatrist, they had spent a great deal of money on counseling and she was… she just exuded depression. Everywhere she went it was just like a cloud over her then it his other people. I just spent hours of really wasted time trying to help here without any results whatsoever. Then I was praying her before a counseling meeting and the Lord told me just give her some scriptures of liberty, that confess liberty “Whoever the Son sets free is free indeed. Where the Spirit of God is there is liberty. Greater is He that is us than he that is in the world.” I gave here this assignment and I didn’t know what to expect I actually probably didn’t expect much of anything. Sid she came back the next week and she was a different person. The cloud was gone, she was smiling, it was the first I had ever seen her smile and she obeyed the homework assignment, she did it.

Sid: Hmm.

Jonathan: She became a doer of the word and not a hearer only and she stood in front of the mirror like I recommended she do. She began to confess these scriptures and in about 3 days the depression lifted because the word of God works and confession is a Biblical principle. If you look at the word meditate in the Hebrew it’s hagah. That should remind you of you something of the hagadah…

Sid: Right.

Jonathan: …Which means to tell the Passover story, hagadah, but that word hagah…

Sid: Excuse me the little booklet that has the format for Passover is called the Hagadah.

Jonathan: Why? Because we’re retelling the story of Passover, the exodus out of Egypt. Thanks for clarifying. The word in Hebrew hagah means to mutter, to utter, to speak, and when God told Joshua to meditate on the word and he would be successful in everything that he did and he’d be able to take the land and lead the children of Israel into the promise land, the word is hagah. So Christian meditation is to think to contemplate, but Jewish meditation is to confess. To use that little member of our body, the tongue, which we’re told has the power of life and death in it. To speak the word of God and by speaking the word of God something happens Sid that’s supernatural. I know you like that word supernatural.

Sid: I do.

Jonathan: What happens is “Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.” The spoken tongue, the language, speaking forth words has creative force for good and bad. What happens supernaturally is when we confess the word of God we hear it, when we hear it over and over again it becomes faith it drops into our spirit. Then when we confess it from our spirit it has creative force it has life and it brings change. It’s miraculous it’s supernatural.

Sid: What I find is so amazing, if you could see in the invisible realm when you speak… (Sound of microphone being rubbed) I just did the same thing…

Jonathan: I just wanted to point it out (laughing).

Sid: Yeah I wasn’t going to let you point it out. When you speak the word of God it literally is called a sword. It literally does what a sword does it just totally… the enemy stands no chance. In fact…

Jonathan: You feel the anointing growing right now as you’re talking?  The anointing is… I’m getting excited.

Sid: Joshua 1:8 you teach about, explain.

Jonathan: That is the scripture… God is encouraging Joshua. He’s preparing Joshua to take over for Moses. Can you imagine how daunting this is? The great Moses has now departed and you have to lead somewhere around 3 million Jewish people, everyone is a president unto themselves and you have to lead them…

Sid: If you have 10 Jewish people you have 11 opinions.

Jonathan: Or more. God is encouraging Joshua, this is Joshua’s pep talk Sid. He’s saying “Joshua you’re going to make but here’s how you’re going to make it. You’re going to succeed, you’re going to accomplish this. I’ve been preparing you but here’s what you have to do to be successful. You have meditate, hagah, confess My word day and night and never let it depart (He doesn’t say from your heart, or your mind, He says ‘Never let it depart…’) from your mouth.” So if you confess the scriptures by speaking them forth they’ll get into your hearing, you’ll listen to them it’ll drop into your spirit, it’ll become faith and you will succeed in everything you do.

Sid: You know I’m having an amazing thought right now. We Jewish people we go into the synagogue and we daven, that’s called pray and we usually use a prayer book, but the prayer book is loaded with the scripture. So a religious Jew is going into the synagogue and he is meditating on the word of God every day. My father used to have the prayer book memorized and there’d be a contest to see who could say the prayers the fastest in the synagogue. What he was doing was he was speaking the supernatural words of God. He was meditating, he was actually mumbling, when you said that it’s like mumbling they do it real fast…

Jonathan: Yeah mumble or mutter.

Sid: Mutter when they read it that quickly in the scriptures and maybe, just maybe that’s one of the reasons why Jewish people are such a blessed group of people. I mean more Noble prizes for Jewish people and we’re such a tiny group of people. I believe that has something to do with that Jonathan.

Jonathan: Again our spoken words have created force, our spoken words are what we hear and “Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.” The most powerful thing is when it gets into our heart, and don’t you notice you confess scriptures and you remember them at key times?

Sid: Yes.

Jonathan: The Lord brings them to mind at just the right time and that’s how it works. When you speak forth the word of God, when you speak healing to someone from your spirit you’re releasing the creative power of healing and I love it Sid there’s nothing more exciting.

Sid: Okay but you have incorporated Hebrew…

Jonathan: I have.

Sid: Why now? It’s interactive so you have the English, you have the Hebrew, and you have the transliteration which we’ll get to, which in a matter of seconds you can actually speak the Hebrew that you’re seeing. But why Hebrew?

Jonathan: Well there’s a couple of reasons:

First of all, Hebrew is known as the holy tongue. It’s the tongue of the prophets, it’s the language of the Old Testament and I believe it’s the language of heaven. I believe that when God created the world it was the spoken word in Hebrew. We’ll find out when we get to heaven but I believe it was Hebrew. It’s a creative… So the language itself has creative force.  We were talking in a past program about the… just the different tone, tonal qualities of Hebrew they’ve determined have creative power.

Sid: You know I can’t tell you from technical viewpoint, I just can tell you to my ear I like spoken Hebrew, I like the way it sounds.

Jonathan: I do too. There’s a reason for that our spirit likes it it’s not our mind that likes it it’s our spirit that likes it. When I hear shalom I just love it and I know that it’s speaking peace, that it’s speaking life, but here’s another let’s take this one Adonai Yireh the word yireh oaky, the Lord will provide.  So yireh, or Jireh, (singing) ‘Jehovah Jireh my provider’ so what’s the English word? It’s provide. Right?

Sid: Right.

Jonathan: But yireh when we confess yireh we not saying provide we’re saying we’re speaking forth prophetically abundance, blessing, multiplication, I’m reading all the words that yireh means. Lacking for nothing, prosper, success, fruitfulness, sustenance, rescue, protection, shelter, graciousness, enjoyment, carry us to old age, rain (when there’s famine), asking and receiving all connected to the word yireh.

Sid: You know what, that sure sounds a lot better to me than just money. That’s what money can’t buy…

Jonathan: (Laughing)

Sid: …you know that? Money can’t buy what yireh provides for us.

Jonathan: You know how we have super supplements and super vitamins and whatever else are super foods? Hebrew are super words it’s a language of super words. So we provide in English but then we go to the Hebrew and we release in yireh a super word that has 20 or 30 English words all contained in the one word we confess yireh.

Sid: But the problem is if you have ever looked at the Hebrew language unless you’re taught you can’t speak and you’ll have to be taught it for a number of years to understand it, to speak it, but there was a problem when Jewish people came to America. Tell me about that Jonathan.

Jonathan: Well the Yeshiva, the idea of Yeshiva and men being brought up as from the time that they were little children in the Hebrew language; disappeared when Jews started coming to America. In fact, the Hebrew language was basically lost it was really lost in what we call the dispersion when Jews were forced to leave Israel banished from Israel in 70 AD or actually 130 after the Bar Kokhba revolt they were scattered to the nations of the world and you would think they would assimilate. Here’s a people without homeland anymore and really without a common language. Hebrew really faded way but it continued on in the European shtetl and so on, but in America particularly Hebrew literally disappeared. So the religious leaders at the turn of the 20^th century were asking the question “How do we preserve Hebrew in our worship?” They came up with the idea of transliteration which is simply taking the English language and phonetically spelling out the Hebrew, and we both grew up with this to some extent. We both went to Hebrew school but we also have in most prayer books now outside of the Orthodox this thing called transliteration where we have the phonetic English that is an aid to read Hebrew, and I’ve employed that in these books.

Sid: No I see it for instance the Hebrew you’d never understand if you saw it written, but then it’s so easy. Here it is phonetically and in the book that’s what I love about this book. You see it’s a hardback…

Jonathan: It’s a workbook.

Sid: Beautiful…

Jonathan: It’s a workbook.

Sid: … and the CD is interactive. He has an Israeli reading the Hebrew but then you can read right along with that Israeli because it’s written out phonetically. It’s so easy… just that word “The Lord will provide.” All of those meanings you’re losing, you’re capturing it when you’re saying Hebrew. You know what Zephaniah says? That a pure language will be restored and many people believe that Biblical Hebrew is a pure language…

Jonathan: I’m positive that that’s the fulfillment of that scripture. I have no doubt.

Sid: I believe that too.

Jonathan: I’m sure of it.

Sid: Okay. Why… so they developed this system it’s so simple that anyone without understanding how to read the Hebraic letters sounds like an Israeli scholar, but you’ll really sound like Israeli because on the interactive CD that comes with this beautiful book you get the Hebrew from an Israeli not just Jonathan or myself that speak bar-mitzvah Hebrew.

Jonathan: And you can read with it and follow it right along. There’s a… Here’s how long it takes to learn Hebrew with these books 5 minutes, 5 minutes.

Sid: I said seconds…

Jonathan: No.

Sid: Okay I’m an evangelist you’re a teacher (laughing).

Jonathan: No you’re exaggerating is a full 5 minute process.

Sid: Okay.

Jonathan: To start I’ve got to be honest. I’ve got to be honest with you.

Sid: Can you do the 5 minutes… by the way it’s so supernatural the way Hebrew was lost when the Jews were dispersed to the 4 corners of the earth. How was Hebrew restored for Israel because see here’s the problem, Jews were coming back from the 4 corners of the earth to Israel as God promised, but they… some spoke French, some spoke Italian, some spoke what’s the Ethiopian language?

Jonathan: Amharic

Sid: Amharic

Jonathan: Yiddish there was 2…

Sid: So it was like the Tower of Babel we’ve got to have one language…

Jonathan: That’s right.

Sid: … So how did we get one language back?

Jonathan: Well Hebrew is  a precursor to the restoration of Israel as a state in 1948. It began with pioneers as you said in the 19^th century that began to go back to the land and God spoke to a man named Eliezer Ben Yehuda. We have Ben Yehuda Street…

Sid: Street.

Jonathan: So he’s a very prominent figure in Israel. He’s known as the father of Modern Hebrew. He, I believe, was called supernaturally by God to return to the land of Israel. He was a linguist who began to recreate to take the ancient language that had been preserved but lost at the same time and began to put together a multivolume dictionary; and all of these modern words that didn’t have a Hebrew word he created Hebrew words and he restored, he was used by God, to restore Hebrew as a modern spoken language.

Sid: How… you know he had all sorts of persecution when he did this…

Jonathan: Terrible.

Sid: How… he… it had to be God…

Jonathan: It had to be.

Sid: … because without the modern day Hebrew Israel would be a nation like the Tower of Babel.

Jonathan: Sid just to see the way God orchestrated everything. Zionism with Theodore Herzl who was a proclaimed atheist saw a trial in France called the Dreyfus Trial and said “We are never going to be safe anywhere we need our homeland,” started the modern movement of Zionism. You have Eliezer Ben Yehuda being used by God to recreate the language of Hebrew reestablished…

Sid: It’s all dovetailing.

Jonathan: All dovetails and comes together at a specific time in history a divine intersection, a kairos moment.

Sid: Sid Roth with something more I’m here with Israel Pachtar in Israel what you and I witnessed with our eyes. I mean I’m in this auditorium in Jerusalem Israel came there to view the event and it’s an auditorium that we had more people than seats standing room only jam packed.  But it’s in Jerusalem it’s not Believers it wouldn’t be that difficult to fill the auditorium with Believers. But to fill the auditorium in Jerusalem Israel with unsaved Jewish people standing room only. And then when I started speaking I had words of knowledge and I have to tell you Israel everything in faith takes courage you know this.

Israel: Yes.

Sid: Just what I heard about you in the last segment if that’s not courage I don’t know what is it takes the Hebrew word chutzpah nerve. But every time that I do this I know that if God doesn’t show up with signs and wonders I’ve wasted the whole trip literally. And I can’t between you and me I can’t heal anyone only God can heal people. I’m 100% depending on God. You know what I found out God likes it when we’re 100% dependent on Him. And then at the end I have to tell you I was believing God and it was hard to say this but I was believing God for 100% to be saved. Well there are what are called anti-missionaries at this meeting people that came and they actually took pictures of the people to intimidate them like they intimidated Israel at his home. And so but I have an idea one of them will be like a Saul of Tarsus and become a Paul the Apostle. So 98% I was believing for 100 but better than 98% stood up and received the Messiah. You’re an Israeli had you ever seen this type of thing  happen in Jerusalem?

Israel: No, it’s a new day for Israel it’s really a new day. I remember spending week after week month after month trying to reach out 1 and nothing happened can you believe it. It’s a new day for Israel.

Sid: And guess what he’s an ordained evangelist, he is a gifted evangelist and he said how tough it was. But when he says it’s a new day for Israel it’s a new day for the world.

Israel: Yes.

Sid: Humanitarian efforts, bless Israel parties bless you and continue doing the Israel needs humanitarian aid desperately. Israel needs to be blessed by Christians world wide and that’s what our purpose is.  But it’s a new day, it’s a new time God says “It’s the set time to favor Zion; at the set time to favor Zion you can do something better for Jewish people than give us a handout of food and clothing.  You can lead us to the Messiah the Jewish Express has started it picked up almost 650 Jewish people in Jerusalem.  I’ll tell you the next city I’ll be in after I’m there but I’ve been to cities throughout the world and I’m telling you it’s a new day and Jewish people are standing in line to board the Jewish Express because they are dying to know the Messiah.  God is doing something special with Arabs but he’s also doing something special with Jewish people.  And the Jewish person that God Himself has had cross your path is not an accident that Jewish doctor, that Jewish merchant, that Jewish friend, that Jewish former schoolmate you consider that it’s a new day as Israel said. But you know what else I find interesting about you Israel is you operate in extraordinary supernatural miracles tell me about that person where you told me you went the person where they were dying of lung cancer were they really dying or were they just…

Israel: No she was dying a young lady about 30 years old having beautiful single mother having beautiful blond girl she was dying and doctor said she will live 24 or 48 hours the most she said the cancer was developed and it was too late and they can’t do nothing, no chemo, not an operation nothing. And some social workers came to discuss what to do with the girls because she’s beautiful and Israel is waiting to have kids and it was a mess.  So I came there with one witness I came to her and she couldn’t talk all of the systems and she couldn’t talk. But she was incontinence and she heard me. So I asked her a question and she give me a sign with her eyes that I’m hearing you just a little nod in the eyes. And I prayed a simple prayer and I can tell you in that moment I didn’t feel anything. You know sometimes you pray and you just know Holy Spirit is working and it’s power and this time nothing the very heavy atmosphere of death a spirit of death. So I prayed just a simple prayer about her I said to her a couple of words of encouragement and then I left. About 3 or 4 hours later she was constantly healed right away, so she just stand up and took everything out and doctors came and thought she’s dying.

Sid: She took it out by herself.

Israel: She took it out by herself.

Sid: The tube.

Israel: And she was shouting “I’m hungry, I’m starving I want to eat.” She was totally healed and she still lived till today and the teenage girl and it’s unbelievable. Now we see you know in Israel God is rising the Body of Messiah in Israel and people coming to the Lord but at the same time we see an increase of miracles and healings.  It’s not unusual numbers.

Sid: Give me I want you to paint me a picture and I believe that I’m not off when I say 1 year from today paint me a picture of what will be happening in Israel 1 year from today, what is God going to be doing?

Israel: You want me to be focused on the war situation or God’s Kingdom?

Sid:  Look war come and go I want to know about the glory of God.

Israel: Amen the kingdom is growing the openness is growing; now it’s a slow process but it’s really speeding up and increasing; I’ve never seen such numbers of open people like we see today. Now it doesn’t say like everybody you approach in Israel will gladly what you’re telling them there is still a process there are still problems but the open population is growing amazingly. Many Israelis are ready to receive the Lord and Yeshua. I mean of course they really want to understand that this is right and it is Israeli Jewish Messiah when they see it they go for it. Now more and more miracles they are really believing like you said a year from now I believe that the miracles of God will change everything.

Sid: I see a major glory cloud coming to your congregation and other congregations around Israel. I see people walking into your congregation and walking out physically healed not because you even prayed.

Israel: Amen.

Sid: But just by being in the tangible presence of the Living God.  I see Israel a nation of true Jews. Now help me out because I’m an American Jew, I read Hebrew beautifully but I don’t understand too many words of what I read. I have been told that the term Jew comes from a Hebrew word Yehuda which means a worshipper of God.

Israel: Right.

Sid: And in order to be a true Jew according to Jeremiah chapter 31:31 you have to be under the New Covenant. And to be circumcised not just on the outside but circumcision of your heart. So a true Jew is one that was born Jewish or converted to Judaism but then according to the Prophet Jeremiah had a circumcision of the heart.

Israel: Yes, there is many prophecies Sid that’s saying when God will bring people back to the land to restore them to land as a nation as a land then many prophecies Isaiah, Jeremiah they’re saying “And then I will pour My Spirit on you and your will know me.” So I see and Roman’s 11 also addresses the salvation of Jewish nation I see we’re really approaching and this is the beginning of great revival because now Holy Spirit is pouring out more and more it’s a wonderful process but believing in such a historical days. You know from the days of the Bible from the beginning we never have seen such a big number of Jewish people who believe in Yeshua or believe in Jesus.

Sid: Of course it’s a history and now it’s happening right now. It’s the time clock for the return of Jesus.  And that’s fact and speaking of time clock…