Sid: My guest by telephone Dr. Dell Sanchez unbelievable what we’ve been talking about this week. He has gathered a list of 6,000 Spanish names that have Jewish blood. Where did you get these names from Dell?
Dell: Oh, many of them were the compilation Sid from many resources, many archives and documents across the South Western states of the US.
Sid: Tell me one, tell me one place that you got it from?
Dell: One place, oh my goodness, one place was a University of Texas here in San Antonio.
Sid: How would they have it?
Dell: A very famous one is the archives that are especially put together in the University of Arizona in Tucson a tremendous collection there.
Sid: Now if someone reads this list that’s Spanish Hispanic the 6,000 names they were to find their name there what would the probability be that they do have Jewish blood and their ancestors were among those that fled the inquisitions in Mexico, or the US, or Spain?
Dell: Based on my research Sid and really being a careful observer of these matters there a high probability that they had Jewish blood particularly given the situation of their historical background where their grandparents were born, how they got over here to the New World from Spain.
Sid: Let’s pick up right there for a moment we were talking on yesterday’s broadcast about Columbus and 1492 but you have a very interesting history in which there were 3 very wealthy Spanish Jews that had a private meeting with the King and Queen just before the mandate that they leave by 1492. Tell me about that meeting.
Dell: Yes. There were 3 Sephardic extremely wealthy Jews, extremely noble Abrabanel, Santangel, and Sanchez. They were there trying to persuade and to bribe the King Ferdinand and the Queen Isabella not to go ahead with the expulsion decree that is of expelling the Jews from Spain. So they offered from this untold amount of money. Now a lot of people giggle when they say “Queen Isabella sold her jewels” to finance Christopher Columbus voyages when actually she sold her Jews, los Judios, the Jews. So these 3 Sephardic men were the ones that actually funded the voyages of Christopher Columbus.
Sid: So it was Jewish money that funded Columbus found the New World.
Dell: Exactly.
Sid: And he thought he found India and that’s why he called the inhabitants Indians a lot of people don’t know that that’s where Indians got their name.
Dell: Exactly, exactly. It was a providential act of God that God raised up if you will a man, a Gideon in that land that was in this case Columbus to be able to bus out of Spain wave after wave, after wave, after wave of Spanish speaking…
Sid: But these 3 wealthy Jews they really wanted royal decree that the Jews would not be expelled what did the King and Queen decide? Obviously they were expelled but what happened?
Dell: Good question because ease dropping behind the chamber door you know of this private meeting between King, Queen and these 3 wealthy Jews was Tomas De Torquemada, was the the Inquisitor General and he was the personal confessor of Queen Isabella like Católica, she’s known as Isabella the Catholic. When he heard that the King and Queen were going to ahead and go not expel the Jews from Spain, he dashes through the door waving his crucifix say now you know ranting and raving and you know saying “Now the blood of these Jews will be on your hands,” so they reneged instead of going ahead.
Sid: Did they take the money?
Dell: Yes they took and they went ahead and they still expelled the Jews Sid.
Sid: Huh. What a curse over a country to do something like that and the way you’ve explained the torture the Jews had in that country. You know it reminds me, and this might surprise you of Argentina and the reason it reminds me of Argentina, is Argentina has had the longest standing revival I think in history and yet the country is economically going under. So the pastors got together and they had a prayer meeting why is this happening in a country with such revival? And they don’t know well I know, I know because Argentina took in a lot of money, it was called gold teeth and where did they get this gold? From the Nazis that they were harboring and that’s why that curse has hit Argentina. But what I would like to find out from you, and very few people in America is the inquisition the torturing of Jews jumped from Spain to Mexico and parts of the United States.
Dell: Yes.
Sid: How did that happen?
Dell: Well what happened is that the Jews the Sephardic Jews were called in Spain and Iberia the la gente prohibida, meaning the prohibited people. The prohibited people of the what, the prohibited people of prohibited from coming across the Atlantic into the New World. They were not supposed to they could be anywhere else but not into the New World. So they began to discover early in the 1500’s that we were multiplying our people, Sephardim was multiplying and quite successful. Well how did they get here and what were they doing. Well what occurred quickly in the early 1500’s I’d say by 1515, 1520 the Franciscans was sent by the order of the Spanish inquisition to establish a Mexican inquisition high tribunal in Mexico City, but also one, subsequent to this in Lima, Peru, and one in the Inca, Columbia.
Sid: But how did they know that there was so many of these Spanish Jews that went there didn’t they hide the fact they were Jewish?
Dell: Well the fact is they’re were a lot of crypto Jews, they were actually they thought that they’d have full freedom over here as much as Don Reese’s family, his sister, his nieces and nephews, they thought they’d have the real liberty of just continue with their Jewish lifestyle over here in the New World. But…
Sid: And they never thought again it’s so parallel to the blacks in America when the blacks thought they were safe because they came to the north and then the slave trader act was past and they could come to the north and get them it was very parallel.
Dell: Exactly, yes so what happened is that quickly they have to become what’s called Crypto Jew, Jews in secret. You know by day they are Catholic and by night and in secrecy they are Jewish. You know so that’s what occurred, now in the process there’s another term now here more of recently I may add is that many of our own Jewish Sephardic people are saying are acknowledging themselves not so much as Marrano okay as a Marrano, but Anosim. I have been in Israel…
Sid: What is Anosim mean?
Dell: And they asked me who are you, what’s the link of your Jewish heritage. I say I’m Anosim they immediately know to have been one of those that’s been forced, that has been coerced, manipulated and as a people raped. They immediately embrace me, that mean embrace my people as one of their own brothers and sisters.
Sid: Now when the inquisitors so to speak from Spain came hunting Jews in Mexico and these other places what happened when they found them did they have any rights there?
Dell: What happened is that some of them had some rights like for intense Don Reese had right of this huge amount of territory owed by some of my fellow scholars as known as the tragic square. It’s the big huge square of course I don’t think it was exactly a square, but what happened is when they discovered when the Catholic inquisitors then transferred power to the Dominicans within 5 to 7 years after they took control. They fueled the inquisitional fires, la jasoheras, that burns at the stake. They just fueled the investigations and the tortures so that…
Sid: They burned Jews at the stake?
Dell: Yes! Yes they were burning…
Sid: The same type of torture that went on in Spain?
Dell: The same thing was happening in Spain was happening here in Mexico City. And they were fetching the Sephardim from all across Mexico. Remember many of them came north as far north as possible away from the high tribunal Mexico City. So much so that they had to come, and as I said the earlier end of the broadcast come across the river away from the Republic of Mexico into Texas, New Mexico.
Sid: But you told me they weren’t even safe there!
Dell: They weren’t even safe there; what happened is that this is what has occurred in the Spirit of God was revealing to me and I didn’t have the documented fact up until last year. I had this you call it theory it was more of a revelation of the Spirit of the Living God Sid that there was something wrong. In fact if I may add we were in a major mission we were in a conference God gave me an open vision in Soul Korea and open vision of a mission of a Spanish mission. And I thought “What in the world is going on?” There was a lot of details to this vision we were attending a conference with Dr. Paul Yonggi Cho in Sole Korea. And God gave me this open vision in fact I shared this vision with my people and Robert Rodriguez, an old friend of mine, painted the object of this Spanish mission. But I didn’t know what that meant; I didn’t know Sid for years and years I didn’t know why God would show me a mission in a typical territory of the Southwestern part of the United States or Northern Mexico. And I thought that it meant maybe I had a mission in life such as television ministry or etcetera but low and behold I discover by the Holy Spirit revealing to me that very missions became eyes of spies. The missions if you trace them…
Sid: I’ll tell you what Dell it’s too important hold that thought will pick up here on tomorrows broadcast.
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