Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural.

 

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, the only word I can use, has the most ferocious faith for miracles that you’ve ever seen. Let me give you an example. She goes through an AIDS hospice. That’s where people are going to die from AIDS. She goes in a room where they have hours to live. She lays her hand on the first AIDS patient, hours to live now. This guy jumps up out of the bed and walks out. The nurse comes back and says, “Where did he go”? Becky, you do not look so ferocious. She is. But I’ve got to find out how it happened. How did you get from being normal to be normal according to the Bible?

 

BECKY: Well Sid, it started out with a personal deep desire in my heart and a prayer one day. I saw that the prophets and the disciples had a different level of faith than I had. They had a different level of intimacy with God that caused them to walk in naturally in the supernatural. Now I saw miracles happening in my life, but they were sporadic. But what I saw with the prophets and the disciples in God’s Word was it was a lifestyle. And I said, Holy Spirit, teach me how to have this type of an intimate relationship with you that they have and teach me how to walk in the power of your spirit like they did. That’s how it started.

 

SID: You were at a conference in Nigeria and that’s really where God got a hold of you. Tell me about it.

 

BECKY: He did. It was about 16 years ago and I went to Nigeria for one week with three other people and we were holding together a healing conference. And that night when I got to my hotel room I was asking, “I need to know what’s going on here because I can’t stop weeping.” And he told me, he said, “When you get back to Guatemala, when you get home there I want you to start studying healing and I don’t want you to study anything else until I tell you to. It’s now time for this part of your ministry,” meaning healing, “to start.” And so I obeyed him. I got home and I started reading the scriptures from Genesis all the way through Revelation and everything I saw about healing I had a notebook with me and I had my Bible, and I’d write to the Holy Spirit, I’d put the date on it, the day and the time where I was, and I’d say, “Dear Holy Spirit, teach me.” And he would reveal things to me that I hadn’t seen even though I was studying and studying it, and it ended up being a two-year study for that part. Then he had me go on a 40-day fast, and I’ll be honest with you, I had never gone on a 40-day fast. Three-day fast and I thought they were hard. But a 40-day fast and it was strict fast. It was water.

 

SID: Water, just for 40 days?

 

BECKY: Yes. So at the same time I’m going on this 40-day fast he instructs me to read from Genesis through Revelation. And so I finished this fast, and it was a glorious fast. I mean it was hard on the flesh, I’ll be honest with you, but I obeyed because I tell you what, no matter how hard it was physically, the supernatural side of it was glorious. And then he gave me a time of rest and he said, “Do it again.”

 

SID: Three times in one year, 40-day fasts?

 

BECKY: Yes.

 

SID: Studying the scriptures for two years. So when it was over, she went to an AIDS hospice where they were dying, hours to live. You went into one room. What happened?

 

BECKY: I walked into the AIDS hospice one afternoon and I said to the nurse, I said, “Hi, Luis, how is everybody doing?” Obviously, this is all in Spanish. But I said, “How is everybody doing?” And he said, “Sister Becky, they’re not doing well today.” And I said, “What’s wrong?” I mean, I’m in an AIDS hospice. Everything is going wrong and I’m thinking, “What’s wrong now?” And he said, “In this room over here there’s two men and they’ll be gone within two hours. You need to go pray with them, Sister Becky.” And I said, “Okay.” And I knew in my spirit what he was requesting of me, he didn’t believe anything was going to happen. But you know what, that didn’t matter. I was on an assignment with God, with the Holy Spirit. And so he walked me into this room and there was these two single beds, one man in this bed and the other man in that bed. They were both in comas. Their eyes were fixed on the ceiling and so I go over to the first bed and I’m looking down in the man’s eyes, and they’re fixed on the ceiling. And I said to him, I said, “Hi, my name is Becky and I’m a missionary, and I believe in healing.” And some people think it’s odd that I would talk to them, but I have learned that the spirit does not go into a coma, only the physical body does. I read two scriptures to the man. I read from Isaiah 53:4-5, that said, “By his stripes we are healed” and then I went into Galatians 3:13, where it talks about Jesus becoming a curse, to undo the curse. You know, that took me maybe three minutes and I said, “I’m going to pray for you now.” And I saw the man’s eye twitch. And I said, “I just saw your eye twitch. I’m going to take that as you’re saying yes.” So I laid my hands on him, and this is what I teach people, I teach them how to do this. And I said, “In Jesus’ name, I renounce the spirit of death and I release the spirit of life. I renounce the HIV and every other disease that’s killing your body. Right now in Jesus’ name, be healed.” And you know what happened? Do you want to know happened?

 

SID: Of course I do. I even know what happened.

 

BECKY: The man instantly jumped out of his bed and he was jumping up and down, and in Spanish he’s saying, “I’m healed! I’m healed! I’m healed!”

SID: A young African-American boy tried to kill an elderly white woman, hurt her, I mean, horribly. Tell me that story, Kynan.

 

KYNAN: It’s a very powerful story, Sid. This young man is sort of a menace and doesn’t have a father figure in his life, and so he resorts to a life of crime, violence, robbing, stealing, etc. And he happens to victimize this woman and he hurt her really bad, and of course, he want to prison. He was convicted and went to prison. But the amazing part of the story is the response of the woman. She forgave him, not only that, but she began to correspond with him in prison and to bless him and tell him, you know what, you can start over again, you can have a better life. I mean, isn’t that amazing. When he gets out of prison they meet for the first person since the event and they embrace one another. And he says, “You know what, you changed my life because when you forgave me I realized that that wasn’t who I am. That wasn’t who I was created to be. God had a bigger purpose for me in life.” And now this man is reintroduced back into society and he’s going to do great things. But what would have happened if she didn’t forgive him? Now I’m not saying it’s easy to forgive.

 

SID: If she hadn’t, I bet he would have gone into society and done even worse.

 

KYNAN: Yes because he was in the prison of her unforgiveness. That’s what happens. When we hold on to offenses we hold people hostage, and guess what, we have to be the prison guard. So we’re right there with them while they’re in prison. Neither one of us is going anywhere.

 

SID: We’re both in prison.

 

KYNAN: We’re both in prison.

 

SID: I mean, it’s time to be free. When you understand the repercussions of what happened, when you lend yourself to do these unbiblical things, you said every believer, every church needs an ICU unit.

 

KYNAN: That’s right, intensive care unit. Every believer, every hospital, every good hospital has an intensive care unit, and this is where the worse cases go. This is where the most traumatized, the most debilitated, the most wounded people go and they have specialists that can administer care to these people. It’s usually a separate part from the other part of the hospital. Every church, every family, every believer needs an ICU. In other words, we need to understand that many times when people hurt or offend us it’s because they’re wounded. When you’re wounded you’re prone to attack. When you’re hurt you’re prone to hurt and that’s why we need an ICU, a place where people can heal. You know, there are people watching even right now, Sid, that believe, I don’t belong in the church. I don’t belong in this family. I’m too damaged. There is nothing that can be done for me. But I want people to understand that the Holy Spirit is the chief of the ICU and he can heal the most wounded person. He can restore the most broken. He can literally rehabilitate the fallen if we will allow him to.

 

SID: You have a term you use: grace space. Explain.

 

KYNAN: We have to have a grace space as believers. Don’t automatically come to a conclusion about someone. Don’t automatically accept a narrative. Don’t automatically.

 

SID: The truth is we don’t have all of the facts. There’s only person that has all the facts, that’s God.

 

KYNAN: That’s right.

 

SID: Tell me that story, very poignant, about that wise grandfather.

 

KYNAN: The wise grandfather, you know, it’s so funny. I love this story. Two little girls are playing and they have the crayons and everything. And one of the little girls, the granddaughter, breaks the crayon in half. And so she goes to the grandfather and says, “Granddad, I broke my crayon. I’m so upset.” And he takes the crayon. He’s a wise grandfather. He takes the crayon and takes a piece of paper and he begins to draw with the crayon and he shows her and says, “Listen sweetie, broken crayons still color”. And there are people, if I can just speak to the audience, there are some people, you have been broken, you have been wounded by the church, you have been wounded by your family, you’ve been wounded by those in authority and you need to know that you are not damaged goods. Broken crayons still color. We forget the fact that he is the potter and cannot the potter heal the clay. Cannot he restore the clay? Cannot he make you the way he wants you to be? Receive him even now.

 

SID: Jesus said a very penetrating question, “Will you be made whole?”

 

KYNAN: That’s right.

 

SID: Comment on that.

 

KYNAN: You know, a lot of people are broken. I counsel and it’s so funny because sometimes we can be so engulfed in our brokenness that we don’t understand that that’s not what God wants us to be. And when Jesus went to the pool of Bethesda, a place of healing, everybody was waiting to get in the water. This man had been there for 38 years and Jesus asked him, he said, “Will you be made whole today?” Then his next words were very powerful. He said, “Rise. Take up your bed and walk.” I believe it’s time for people to rise up out of their pain, rise up out of their offense, take up their bed and walk in their purpose. This is what God is calling us to do in this hour.

 

SID: I want you to charge people to do that right now.

 

KYNAN: You know, you’re listening to me right now, you say, I hear what you’re saying, I know it’s scriptural, but I can’t. I’m too hurt, I’m too wounded. Do you know that I was wounded, too? I was broken, too, even as a pastor. One day in my room I’m sitting there and the Lord Jesus walked into my room and he laid his hands on my heart, and he gave me a new heart. He gave me a new compassion for people and I believe he wants to do the same for you right now. As you stretch your hands, Father, in Jesus’ name, I declare that everyone watching me and listening to my voice will receive the healing that you desire for them to experience. I charge you now to rise up, take up your bed and walk. You will not stay in a bed of offense. You will not stay in a bed of affliction. You will not stay in a place of stagnation, but you will rise up today and fulfill your purpose once and for all in Jesus’ name.

 

SID: Now you know the truth and I say to you the truth has made you free.

SID: Kynan, you have an analogy that really spells out how offense operates on us. It has to do with the dark alley.

 

KYNAN: Okay. So imagine people walking down a dark alley. It’s pitch black. You can’t see anything in front of you. And I remember being in an experience when I went to Africa one time. I couldn’t see anything. There were no generators, no nothing, no light. And so you’re walking down this dark path. You can’t see what you’re stumbling. In fact in this particular instance there was a black viper right by my foot. I didn’t even see it. The person behind me happened to step on it. And I believe that many people are stumbling in the dark. That’s what offense is like. The Bible calls it a snare. It’s actually a stumbling block. That’s what the word “offense” means. It means something that causes us to get trapped or stuck. So there are millions of believers, they don’t know why they are stumbling. They don’t know why, why am I not healed. Why can’t I have any joy? Why have I yet to fulfill my purpose? They’ve been saved 20 years and yet they’ve never fulfilled their calling. They are literally walking in the dark and they know what they’re stumbling at. The Bible tells us, it says, “He that hates his brother stumbles in darkness,” and he can’t see where he’s going. And so this is what the enemy wants. He wants us in darkness so that we can’t see our purpose. We can’t see where we’re going.

 

SID: We literally have an assassin that’s coming out to kill us, but we’re actually being used by that assassin and we don’t even realize it.

 

KYNAN: God gave me this analogy. Satan moved out of the church a long time ago and he hired hit men to do his bidding. Now who are his hit men? This is going to be very scary for some people. Believers, people who love God, people who are sincere in their walk, but are unknowingly assassinating others in the church, unknowingly assassinating others in their family, on their job, they don’t realize that they’re working for the enemy. But I believe, if I can do this, Sid, I want to release you from that contract. You’re fired. You’re not going to work for the enemy anymore. You’re going to work for the King of King and the Lord of Lords, not the accuser of the brethren, but the healer of the nations.

 

SID: Is there a vaccine, if you will, because I’ll take it. Now I don’t take a lot of vaccines for other reasons, but this vaccine I want for this virus. Is there?

 

KYNAN: There is a vaccine. You know, here’s what we have to do. First of all, we have to forgive. You see, God forgave us. The Bible says God, for Christ’s sake, forgave us. None of us deserve forgiveness. That’s why it’s called forgiveness. And we’re required to forgive people who don’t even acknowledge they’re wrong. And this is why, Sid. Forgiveness is not for them, it’s for you. It’s for you because you’re the one that is going to experience freedom. You’re the one that’s going to have peace.

 

SID: And not gossiping. It isn’t for them, it’s for you, but it destroys people. You know what, it works both ways.

 

KYNAN: It works both ways. And then we have to repent. This is the vaccine. We have to change our thinking. What if people understood that every time you said something about someone a dagger went into that person’s heart or a dagger went into someone’s heart. Many people would be convicted of mass murder because our words are like swords. This is what the scripture says. It says, “The talebearer, their words are like wounds going into the inward parts.” See, I want people to have a visual of this, Sid, and recognize what’s happening. Satan is the only one who gains from accusation. We gain nothing from it.

 

SID: Give me one other clue on this vaccine.

 

KYNAN: You have to avoid.

 

SID: Avoid?

 

KYNAN: Avoid

 

SID: Avoid what?

 

KYNAN: Avoid conversations that are demonic, conversations that don’t glorify God, conversations that don’t redeem. The Bible says in Romans 16, “Mark those which cause offense and avoid them.” Now what this means is I’m not saying cut off all your friends and all this kind of stuff, but what I’m saying is taking a stand. Now if you realize it’s your destiny depending on what you heard and what you said, you will be very protective of the words coming out of your mouth.

 

SID: That’s a mouthful. Your destiny. When we come back I’m going to have Kynan tell a true story about a young man that tried to kill a woman, went to prison and what happened. Unbelievable. We’ll be right back.