SID: James, what is the ultimate, what is God after, the ultimate purpose of discernment?
JAMES: We don’t want to just be on a lower level. We want to all upgrade to the highest level that we can. Now I believe the ultimate purpose of revelation, which discernment is an aspect of revelation, the ultimate purpose of revelation is to become a word, not just receive a word, not just release a word, to become a word. Or let me say it in another way. The ultimate purpose is transformation.
SID: Transformation from what to what?
JAMES: Well in an individual, receiving revelation, who you are in Christ, from old habits to being set free as an authentic new creation in Christ Jesus. Where there is desolation there will be restoration. That it takes being a person of revelation to receive hope solutions and to then speak, receive them, speak them and call forth for Divine applications in Jesus’s name.
SID: So what I’m hearing you say is wherever we go, we become the revelation.
JAMES: That’s exactly right.
SID: Are you saying we’re just going to become normal?
JAMES: I think we’re going to change the equilibrium of passive Christianity across the face of the earth.
SID: I like that.
JAMES: Because we’re change agents.
SID: Very briefly, you were in Indonesia and you had a bodyguard who just happened to be Muslim.
JAMES: Oh yeah.
SID: Tell me what happened. Talk about a transformation.
JAMES: Oh yes, it was amazing, yes. This is where the word became flesh in a sense. Okay, so here’s this amazing story, testimony. So I was ministering at a large gathering, 8000 people or so, with several well-known people. My bodyguard literally, because of where we were, was this professionally trained, and he was a radical Muslim. And he was with me everywhere I went. He had never been to a church meeting before, let alone one of these highly charged, supernatural gatherings. So the Holy Spirit speaks to me to speak on a message called, “Why I Pray and Take a Stand for Israel.” What? Wrong guy, wrong place. So I argue with God. I’m in Indonesia.
SID: Wrong country.
JAMES: Exactly. I went ahead. I obeyed the master and said, “Yes, sir, okay, whatever you want.” So I’m up there. He believed, the Muslim bodyguard, that he was serving a prophet. He knew a certain dimension of honor and he believed that he was serving a prophet. So while I was speaking, “Why I pray and take a stand for Israel,” he goes into an open vision, and he sees Jesus and the 12 disciples. This man, who doesn’t know anything about the authentic Christian faith, has an open vision of Jesus and his 12 disciples. And Jesus turns to him and says, “Will you be one of my disciples?” And he gives his heart to Jesus, on the spot. The next day, he gets up and he testifies, and he says, “I’m here and I am serving Prophet James Goll.” See, Jesus said, “If you receive a prophet in the name of a prophet you’ll receive a prophet’s reward.” That guy got a prophet’s reward. A year later, I returned and I found out this. He got water baptized, committed to a church, his whole family got saved and they’re all walking with Yeshua.
SID: You know, if you take that first little step, God will literally live inside of you. The Creator of the Universe, and he says, “I’ll never leave you.”
JAMES: That’s right.
SID: I’ll never leave you. And I am looking at you, but more important than me, God is looking at you. The Creator of the Universe is looking at you. Repeat after me: Dear God, I’m a sinner. Against you and you alone have I sinned and I’m so sorry. I believe the blood of Jesus washes away my sins and I’m clean. Oh it’s so good to be clean. And now that I’m clean, Jesus come inside of me. I make you my Lord and Savior. Amen. I have 28 seconds and I know you hate cancer. I want you to look in the camera and command cancer leave, right now.
JAMES: Oral Roberts laid his hands upon me and he declared over me, before he went to Heaven, and I knew that I was going to be the last person that he would pray for. And he said over me: “I eradicate every cancer cell in your body and I command it to never come back again.” I declare over you, any of you who are watching right now, as freely as I receive, you shall receive. And I declare cancer, you leave and you will never return again for Jesus Christ’s sake and for the Glory of his name.
SID: Any name means so be it.
Tags: It's Supernatural, Sid Roth
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