SID: Yeah, this is so phenomenal. Tell me about the kidneys.

BRIAN: Sid, this is an amazing story. I was in South Africa in a very small prayer meeting, about 16 people. And the Lord gave me a word of knowledge about, there was a women here that has a kidney issue. And all of a sudden this lady stands up and comes towards me, her name is Jessie, and she begins to describe what had happened to her.

When she was 16 years old, her left kidney was removed because of an abusive thing that happened to her, and her right kidney was damaged to working about 2%. We prayer for her, she felt like a fire come through her body, is how she described it. Well, she had a routine visit to the doctor about two days later.

What they found was the size of a mustard seed growth on the right side. Now, hear that again, the size of a mustard seed growth. They thought at first it was a cancer. But could you imagine? This is what Jesus says, if we just have faith as the size of a mustard seed, and this mustard seed grew into a brand new, fully functioning kidney.

Absolutely amazing. And her right side, now working at 100% level. And so, Jesus just came in that moment with a creative miracle. And here’s the thing that Jessie said to me, she said, “I’ve waited 32 years for this miracle.” Can you believe that? Just a mustard seed.

SID: Are you someone special?

BRIAN: No. I’m not, at all. I’m just a skinny man trapped in a fat man’s body trying to follow Jesus. If I’m going to be honest.

SID: Brian, when you were a believer, you wandered into a church called Vineyard Church. And you saw miracles happening for the first time in those four walls, and there was something rising up within you, you told me, how can I take these miracles … Most people don’t even see miracles, you at least saw that miracles are possible today. How can I take it when I leave these four walls? I want a dying world to see these miracles, and you didn’t know how.

SID: And then you heard about a man by the name of Blaine Cook that was having a meeting. He was pretty far away. You jump in your car with your buddy. How far did you drive?

BRIAN: It was a 15-hour drive, and all along the way I am praying, asking God to pour out His Spirit upon me. I said, Lord, what you put on Blaine, put on me. What you put on John Wember, put on me. I’m hungry. I want to see the Kingdom of God come outside the four walls of the church. It’s amazing to see it inside the four walls of the church, but how much more should it be outside? It should be greater.

And so, I get to this meeting and Blaine had become like a hero to me. I watched him because he was just a business guy and he pressed into things and he was seeing hundreds of people come to Jesus on his work, on his job, during lunch. And so, I thought, Gosh, if I could just get around somebody, what could happen?

Anyway, to my amazement, we’re there in the meeting and it’s electrifying, the presence of God. I’m just so hungry. And Sid, all of a sudden, Blaine stops and he looks at me and says, “Young man, God’s power is all on you for power evangelism,” and the power of God hit me so strong that I literally just flew back out of my chair and started shaking under the power of God so violently, but it didn’t hurt. But it was just raw power of God coming through me.

And in that moment I was like, God, thank you for touching me. Thank you for touching me. Now give me an opportunity to see Your Kingdom come outside the four walls of the church. That was the encounter that I had.

SID: Okay, so he has a lunch break, now is his big chance, what happened?

BRIAN: Well, like you said, I asked for an encounter and God gave that to me. I had to go to Popeye’s Chicken for lunch, and I walked in. As I walked into Popeye’s Chicken, I see this lady in line and her arm was hurting … This was the impression that the Lord gave me. There’s something wrong with her right arm and I want you to pray for her.

Now, Sid, I had gotten words of knowledge inside the Church, but never outside the church. And so, when I heard that, He said, if you go pray for her, I’ll heal her. And I went, no way. Here I just had this crazy encounter …

SID: Why? Why did you say no way?

BRIAN: Because Sid, I got scared. I had let fear hit me and I thought, what if nothing happens? Well, my friend is standing next to me, named Greg, and he’s like, “Brian, what’s going on?” Cause he can see me looking at this lady and what’s going on.

I said, “I think the Lord might be saying something to me about this lady.”

SID: You’re really hedging?

BRIAN: Yes. And he said, “Brian, I was in the car with you for 15 hours and you were praying all the time. God, touch me, put Your spirit upon me, and then Blaine calls you out. The power of God comes on you and I know you’ve been waiting for an opportunity like this so just go pray for her.” And I went, no. Sid, I was the biggest chicken in Popeye’s Chicken that day.

SID: Okay. So then, a few weeks later, you’re at Walmart and you see your first miracle outside the four walls of the church.

BRIAN: Absolutely. Thank God He’s so gracious with us, right? And so, I was going through Walmart with a buddy of mine and we were looking for fishing equipment. And this employee comes up and he’s asking us, “Hey, can I help you?” I’m like, no, no. It’s okay.

The Holy Spirit speaks to me and says there’s something wrong with his eyes. He’s had them burning for two weeks, I want you to pray for him. So, I thought about that situation at Popeye’s Chicken and I didn’t want to be a chicken again. But here’s the truth, there was still some feathers that needed to be plucked.

And so, now, this guy is standing over this with some other Walmart employee, so I have to humble myself and walk over to them. And so, I just said, “Hey listen, God loves you so much that He would tell me something about you. You’ve been having this burning sensation in your eyes for two weeks. If you let me pray for you right now, God will heal you on the spot.” And then I was like, oh my gosh, what did I just say? Now I’m in it.

And he said “I’ve had this burning sensation in my eyes for the last two weeks. And yes, you can pray for me.” Now Sid, this is what I said. “Can we go down another aisle where no one can see us?” Because I really was in this place. I didn’t know how to do this.

Now, remind you, I had never prayed for anybody outside the four walls of the church. So this way, I brought him down the aisle and I just said this, “Close your eyes and assume the position.” Cause I didn’t know how to pray for him. Hold out your hands. And I began to pray, mind you, for his eyes. I said, “Holy Spirit, will you come and touch his eyes?”

And this is the response that I got.

And like you’re looking at me weird, yes. I was looking at him weird. I’m like, what is going on? So I just simply asked him a question, I said, “What is going on?” He said, “I can breathe! I can breathe!” I said, “That’s great you can breathe. I think the whole store knows you can breathe by now. But I was praying for your eyes.” He said, “No, no, no. You don’t understand. I had this breathing condition. I couldn’t breathe for the last two months, and I’m breathing.” And I said, “But what about your eyes?” He said, “They’re healed too.”

SID: But whatever happened to that lady in Popeye’s?

BRIAN: Oh, the lady in Popeye’s. She gets healed because my friend walks over to her and says, “ma’am…” And remember, he didn’t get a word. He didn’t have an encounter. He just taps her on her shoulder and says, “You have a problem with your arm. If I pray for you right now, God will heal you on the spot.” And God completely heals her.

And she goes, “How did you know that?” And he said, “See that guy over there?” And I learned a valuable lesson that day, that God and good friends never let you get away with anything.

SID: Now, I’ve got a question for you. We are commanded in the Gospels to proclaim the kingdom of God, but what is the kingdom of God that we are commanded to proclaim? Be right back.

SID:  Well let’s just take the statement you just made. What is the Biblical basis for the covenant of the land with the Jewish people?

SANDY:  That traces all the way back to Genesis where God covenants with Abraham. Goes into Genesis 15 where God specifically makes that covenant unconditional, meaning that even if Israel sins God’s covenant with Israel still stands. God reaffirms that covenant in Genesis 17 specifically to Isaac, and not Ishmael. Then reaffirms it—

SID:  Who, and by the way, Ishmael is the father of the Arab people. But go ahead.

SANDY:  And then reaffirms that covenant specifically to Jacob, and not Esau. And then the Old Covenant as well as New Covenant scriptures continue to ratify or reaffirm the existence of God’s covenant with Israel. That Prophet Jeremiah says “only if the sun stops shining and the stars in the skies fall away and the heavens can be measured will my covenant with Israel cease and will Israel cease to be a nation before Me.”

SID:  Okay, but that begs, that begs the question what you’re saying right now, as an attorney you have the right answer—and that is many would say “yes,” but that was a conditional covenant and the Jewish people were disobedient and so therefore they lost out completely. But just that scripture you use, is there any other scripture?

SANDY:  Well, there are many. Let’s us jump to the New Covenant because usually we’re talking about a Christian perspective. In the New Covenant, the Apostle Paul in Romans 9 through 11 affirms over and over again, “Has God rejected His people?” No. Romans 11, verse 1. Paul goes on to say that the gifts and call of God are irrevocable. In Romans 9 Paul writes specifically that “Israel’s is” — meaning “still is,” in Greek it “still is” — “Israel’s is the promises and the covenants.” And then there, there are scriptures where Yeshua Himself strongly implies, very strongly implies that God’s covenant with Israel still stands. Acts chapter 1, before He is sent into heaven He affirms that the kingdom of God, as the apostles understand it after 40 days of intense teaching by Messiah himself, the kingdom of God that was promised to Israel, and extends to the nations, is yet to come.

SID: Sandy, give me your understanding of a New Covenant scripture in reference to God’s position on the Jew in Israel at the times of judgment. And hey, if it’s not now, when?

SANDY:  In Matthew chapter 25 the disciples have asked Jesus what will be the sign of His coming. And they’re asking Him about the Last Days. Jesus goes on to describe those signs, and then in that context He talks about how when He returns, when Yeshua returns, that He will judge the nations based on how they have treated His “brothers.” Now in the Greek, how we have treated these brothers of His, the word “brothers” refers literally to flesh and blood. Comes from the word “womb.” In context Jesus is talking about how the church, and how the nations, how the church of the nations has treated the Jewish people in the End Times. And He says “when you fed the hungry, when you clothed the naked, when you visit, visited those that were in prison you did it unto Me.” How we treat the Jewish people, Jesus” kinsman according to the flesh, reflects how we will treat, how we treat him, reflects how we will treat Him, and is the basis, a prime basis, for how He will judge the peoples when He returns.

PERRY:  Now wait a minute. “Taurus the Bull.” The 7 churches of Asia if you ever want to know where they’re located, it’s real simple they were located in Turkey, which was that time called Asia Minor— Everybody ready? At the base of the “Taurus Mountains!”

AUDIENCE:  Wow! Ho, Ho! Wow!

PERRY:  Yeah, “WOW!” There it is. That’s a good— that’s where the “WOW” goes right there! You did it right! So in other words we don’t understand that today “cause we don’t ever study any of that. Back in that day the Greeks and the Romans they knew every star and, and, and they got into corruption, don’t get me wrong, the corruption and the idol gods and the false gods, and Hercules and all. They get into all that. That’s wrong. But here’s the point. Jesus used an imagery, okay, in the, in the neck of “Taurus the Bull” are seven stars and seven sisters. I have in my hand seven stars with seven churches that are located at the base of the Taurus Mountains in Turkey. Okay?

AUDIENCE:  Wow! Yeah!   (CLAPPING)

PERRY: Okay. So, can I give you another one? The Bible says in the Book of Revelation Satan is the dragon. And it gives you an interesting revelation. It says “the tail of the dragon drew a third of the stars and cast them to the earth.” Now let me ask you something. Why did, why does our Bible call it a dragon when the Greek word “dreikoun” is actually serpent? Actually, technically, you know, you know what it, how it actually reads? I saw in the heaven a seven-headed serpent. Because when you use the word “dragon,” dragon— now you got to remember back in the time when the King James Bible was written there was all this mythology, and it was mythology, about dragon slayers. Dragons. So they, they identify Satan as a dragon but the Greek word is a seven-headed snake. You all with me? Now in the Garden [of Eden] you have a snake crawling around a tree, but in Revelation he’s been eaten something he got so big he’s fills up the heavens. C’mon somebody! Serpent. All right. Now here’s what’s interesting. This may be one of the reasons why, too, that word is “dragon.” Because in the constellations of heaven right in the dead center is a constellation that always has its eyes on “Virgo, the Virgin” and that constellation is called “Draco, the Dragon” with its mouth open as if to devour the woman. Now go back to Revelation 12: “I saw a woman in the heavens giving birth and a great red dragon ready to devour the woman as soon as the child was born.” So in other words to us, we’re saying “John, why didn’t you just say: And I saw Israel in the last days and Israel was going to have to go to the wilderness because the devil was after her.” Wouldn’t that have been the easiest way of saying it?  But understand this. God wanted the Greek and Roman culture to take that Book and read it! Because remember it wasn’t just Jews it was Gentiles that had come in and these Gentiles had come out of mythology. C’mon, you’ll get this in a minute. They’d come out of Greek mythology. They’d come out of Roman tradition. They’d come out of paganism. And God says I’m going to use symbols that those Gentile brains are familiar with. And I’m going to get them to read this book and then they’re going to, they’re going to dig out through my word what I’m telling them. Are you all going to get this in a minute. Isn’t that amazing, though?

AUDIENCE: Yeah! Yes!