SID: Most people see you and they think of a prophecy teacher.

PERRY: Right.

SID: A Jewish Roots teacher. And they don’t know the super … For instance, I don’t think many of you know this. Did you know that he has an angel that has followed … He’s a third generational angel that follows him now. What happens when that angel shows up?

PERRY: I can say this really before the Lord, that I don’t sense him all the time, but probably on 10 different occasions, out of absolutely, totally unexpected, not praying for it, not asking for it. When I have been in services, the shifting of the atmosphere is felt by everyone there, even people that are backslid or away from God can sense it. And there’s usually almost a weeping that comes. There’s a real holiness of God that shows up. There’s a real, just awareness of God and awareness of the Holy Spirit that comes. And then what always happens, there either is a shifting in the sermon, totally without notes, without … I’ll lay the bible on the pulpit and just go into a realm of ministry, or there comes a very heavy prophetic word, totally unexpected.

PERRY: The other thing that I’ve noticed is that on one occasion we were in a transition in the ministry, a very heavy transition, and I was so down because more weight was coming to me, more heaviness and weight. I was complaining, and I said Lord, how can I do this? Well, you asked me to do this. I can’t physically do this. And I’m … “Yeah, yes, Lord.” I can’t hardly talk. This is what happens to me when we talk about this. And I was sitting in this big chair at my desk, and I turned this way and I felt the hand come to the chair. When the hand came to my chair, every hair on my body stood up. See, the Holy Spirit’s presence works … let’s say, John 7, from the belly out. An angelic presence is around you. You’ll never feel it “in,” you’ll feel the anointing stir. But you’ll feel it out here.

PERRY: Well, every hair on my body stood up, and all of a sudden a weeping came to me, and the weight … within 10 minutes, the weight that was on me came off of me. From that moment on … and really, I made a mistake. I made a mistake. My daddy always said, “Perry, when you feel this presence, stay in it. Don’t jump out it.” But I got so excited. This sounds crazy. I jumped up and I ran through my office, and I ran to my secretary’s office, beat the door down, knocked on it and said, “You won’t believe what just happened! Oh my God, you ain’t going to believe what just happened!” Well, they’re all excited, and I run to another office.

PERRY: Then I realize, what am I doing? So I go back in there hoping it’s there, and it’s not there now. And I’m like, Perry, what did you do?

SID: Yeah, what did you do?

PERRY: No, what would have happened if I would have stayed there? Now, let me say this, and we’re going to kind of flow this way for the people. One of the mistakes that I see in the contemporary church is we customize services for the benefit of the people.

SID: Isn’t that called seeker sensitive?

PERRY: Yes. But it’s all customized for a time frame. I’ve heard pastors say, we’re going to do a 55 minute service. Everybody knows how long the sermon and the music is going to be. And here’s the disservice we do to people. If we get them at the edge of the holy place, or we get them into the presence of God, we then pull them out prematurely. It’s like a premature birth. When you have a premature birth, you have an undeveloped baby. Something, and it could be the heart, the lungs, or physically. It doesn’t totally develop, and it has to stay in the hospital so long until the full development comes.

PERRY: We pull people close to the presence of God, and I’m not saying everybody does this, but too many do. And then we want them out by 12 because we’re active, the kids got ball in the afternoon, they want to go to the mall, whatever the case is. And I feel so much for this generation because a lot of them have experienced church but not the glory. And so, what we do, we customize the service to adjust it to the, not needs of the people, but we adjust it to the activities of people. And what happens is, you cannot encounter depths with God until you move in the progression of the Spirit of God.

SID: Let’s switch gears for a second.

PERRY: Yeah. Okay.

SID: Because you have revelation that you learned from rabbis, and I’m Jewish and I’ve never heard this revelation before. For instance, supernatural language, tongues. I’ve always been told, well, that didn’t start ’til after –

PERRY: Pentecost.

SID: Yeah, after Pentecost.

PERRY: Right, right.

SID: But you have learned different. Tell me about that.

PERRY: Alright. It was in the 1990s. Rabbi Yehuda Getz was the head rabbi, one of the head rabbis in Jerusalem at the Western Wall Heritage Foundation. We met him at night. We would go in there at 10 or 11:00 at night because he would pray at night from like 11 until three in the morning. That was his prayer time. And he asked me what I believed. I got to tell you this, this is humorous, and there’s a picture of him right there. That’s Rabbi Getz, that’s the young Perry Stone on … people can see that. The younger version.

PERRY: So what he’s doing right there … and I don’t want to get sidetracked. He’s showing me where the Ark of the Covenant was hid in a certain location under the temple mount. I don’t want to get into that, I’ll be sidetracked. So he asked me what I believed, and I said you know what? He’s kind of a mystic, so I’m going to just lay it on him. I said, “I believe in the covenant, so I believe in the redemption.” I said, “I believe in casting out devils.” And he looked at me and he said, “There’s a man at the Western Wall who prays, who thinks he’s Elijah, but he’s not. Could you go cast the devil out of him for me?” It was hilarious. And that kind of bonded us at that point. Then I said this to him—

SID: I’m sure.

PERRY: Yeah. I said this to him, I said, “I also believe in speaking with other tongues, which is the prayer language of the Holy Spirit.” And he looked at me without blinking. He said, “Oh, you mean the language of God.” And I went, “Wait a minute, what do you know about the language of God?” I’m thinking he’s thinking the Hebrew language or something like that. And he said, “Well, we have a Jewish tradition,” and he said, “I believe it, that on the Day of Atonement when the high priest would go into the Holy of Holies, God gave him a tongue to communicate in, a language that he was not familiar with, that only him and God could talk in, and no one could hear it.” And I said, “Well, why would that be?” He said, “So Satan and the spirits could not interfere with what he was saying.”

SID: You thought that was amazing, that they spoke in tongues? Wait ’til you hear about this. This is even more amazing. I just want to mention something about Perry’s father’s uncle. His name was Uncle Rufus. Did you know that Uncle Rufus was … How educated was he?

PERRY: Third grade. Third grade only.

SID: Third grade only. Uncle Rufus could speak in any language of anyone he spoke to.

PERRY: Yes.SID: Third grade education, and preached the gospel. And Perry prophesied, I heard it come out of his mouth a little earlier before we went on the air, that these gifts that were imparted to him, he is going to start imparting them to you. We’ll be right back

SID: You know Joan. When you teach about Biblical prosperity, when people read your books on Biblical prosperity, there’s almost like, it seems as though to me, you clarify this, it’s almost like the favor and the expectancy in the faith that you have for this jumps out on other people.

JOAN: It is so contagious. It is so contagious. I will point to people and say, “God wants to point to you as an example of his incredible wealth, favor and kindness in all He’s done for you through Christ Jesus.” God wants to point to me as an example of all that He’s done with wealth and favor and everything. When you understand that this is what God wants, He wants to use you as an example to others about God’s blessing and prosperity. He wants you to have a car that you can get to church without praying over it for it to start. He wants you to pray over people when you get to church or wherever you get to. This is what’s so important is that it is very contagious because I know I had the choice in the year 2000 to stay where I was on Barely Get Along Street. I opted to go to the streets that are lined with gold according to his word. Hallelujah.

SID: Joan, there’s another thing that happens, just supernatural manifestations of money are attracted to people when what you share jumps on them. Give me some examples.

JOAN: This lady was writing out an offering check the other day. So, she was writing it out and I said, “Now, tomorrow,” this is Friday night at 8:00, “tomorrow check your bank accounts because some of you may have received supernatural finances.” So, she sat there. She wrote … She checked her bank account. There was an additional $4,000 that came in at 8:00 at night on Friday in her bank account, cash. That doesn’t happen. Okay. It just showed up while she’s writing out an offering check. That’s awesome.

JOAN: I had another lady that just sent me word a year ago she gave in the offering, because God loves to bless your offerings, and gave in the offering and so the Canadian revenue equivalent of the United States IRS called she and her husband in. They said, “We need to speak with you.” Well, you know, most people would walk in and say, “Here, just chain me up. Take me off.” But they said that they had gone over their records from 1986, now this testimony is from 19, I mean 2017, from 1986 they found that there was a glitch and they owed her $6,000. And they gave it back to her, a check that day. 1986. The IRS and the Canadian Revenue, they’re done forgot about that one. They’re going to let that one go under the rug, you know what I mean?

JOAN: Then I prayed and I said, “God, there’s a scripture that says 45:3, it says, I will show you, Isaiah 45:3, I will show you hidden treasures, riches that you don’t even know about.” So, I thought, okay, God, this is riches in the area of teaching of trauma, cellular memory, stress, et cetera, but then in addition to that I said, “God, is there any hidden treasures, which refers to finances, is there any hidden treasures?” So, I got a letter in the mail and it said you don’t owe any taxes on your property downtown Houston. No joke. Pweh, toss that. I came back from a trip, pulled it out and I thought, I’m going to follow up on this. I sent a certified letter, found out that my dad left me 2% in some land in downtown Houston. Glory to God. That just got cashed in this year. Hallelujah.

SID: So, if I’m understanding you right, Joan, you could pray that over our audience–

JOAN: Yes.

SID: –right now. Look in the camera and pray for us.

JOAN: Yes. Yes. I love praying for financial breakthrough.

JOAN: Father, right now, in the name of Jesus, as we have seen and even heard, miracles happening in finances and our bodies. Right now, in the name of Jesus, I speak what I am sharing with you to literally jump through this screen at you so contagious that you’re going to have the revelation that, yes, I deserve to be blessed. God desires to bless me. I am going to investigate what’s in my benefits package, which is your Bible, and all, which is inclusive of everything, excluding nothing, all that God has planned for me. So, Father, I thank you that their eyes of their understanding are being enlightened to all that you have for them today, an incredible, supernatural, financial breakthrough coming. Money that they don’t know that’s owed to them. Father, I speak a release of that now, in Jesus name. Raises, promotions, different things like that. Money coming from all kinds of odds and end places. And, understand, this happens to me and I have the anointing to speak and send it to you right now in Jesus name for that breakthrough to happen to you in Jesus name. Hallelujah.

SID: You know, Joan, when people talk about prosperity, whether its physical healing, family healing, financial healing, they never talk about holiness, the never talk about hidden sins. These are major blockages.

JOAN: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

SID: Explain.

JOAN: Sin can separate us from God and the blessings of God and also worry. I was worried, worried, worried in the years 1998, ’99, worried what he was doing.

SID: Is that why Jesus says, “Worry for nothing.”

JOAN: Right. And what will it do you? Cast all your cares on me. There’s dozens of scriptures that tell you don’t worry, but when you’re in the midst of a situation, how can I financially take care of the girls and I when I didn’t even have enough to take care of me? And how can I do this? Worry, worry, fear, fear. Fear is the opposite of faith. That worry was consuming me in a lot of other areas. I teach let’s get to the root what’s brought on the sickness, what’s brought on the poverty, what’s brought on the lack, what has brought on the problems in marriages, in homes, et cetera, what’s brought on the digestive sit–problems and so forth. Let’s get to the root of that, which could be trauma, can definitely be sin, definitely worry, fear.

SID: I’m going to leave you with one thought and it’s a thought that God gave Joan Hunter. I want you to ponder this. Victory is just a choice.

SID: Becca, I want you to tell us how to get God’s strategy. Do you need God’s strategy for your unsaved family? Do you need God’s strategy for your health? Do you need God’s strategy for your ministry? Do you need God’s strategy for every area of your life? How do we get this?

REBECCA: You know, Sid, this sounds really simple when I say this, but when we become a people that pray, we become a people that really set aside that time to magnify who He is, and we quiet ourselves in that place, we don’t just come with a list of “I need this, I need this,” but we begin to build that relationship, and what happens in that relationship is He will speak to us a strategy where He wants to use us to see victory come. Can I give you an example?

SID: Please.

REBECCA: You know, the Lord spoke to me. We do this for individuals. We do this for cities and regions. The Lord spoke to us this strategy that He gave us. He said, “Go to Germany. Go to Germany and pray in this city” because He wants to release a harvest of souls. My husband and I, we took a team. We prayed. The Lord has spoken this to me in the glory. I told Greg, “We have got to go,” my husband, “we’re going to Germany.” He knows when the Lord’s speaking an assignment like that, he’s like, “We’re going, God’s going to do something.” We go and it was actually on the 500th year anniversary of the Reformation. We didn’t put that together. I don’t know why. But when we went to where we were, they began to tell us there was a lot of occult, we knew this part, in that region that was holding back a harvest. We wanted to pray to see God set this region free.

REBECCA: But we ended up in this location and there was a lot of bloodshed in the Reformation that happened from the Catholic to the Protestant, so we wanted to repent for that. We got onsite and we started repenting and we ended up literally in this location where the gentleman that was very much against the activity of the Holy Spirit, the glory like what we’re talking about, really talked and debated this. He said, “We have to remove activity of the Holy Spirit.” We ended up right there where he had been. We did not know this. We repented and we began to worship the Lord, saying, “God, bring a harvest into this region where all these things in the past have held it back and from a breakthrough.”

REBECCA: God’s presence as we worshiped began to come and He told us to go to another location after we had done this and repented. We went into this location. It was a study hall where they actually taught people to disallow the activity of the Holy Spirit. There was a gentleman there. We were the only ones there. There was a gentleman there by the name of Klaus, which means “the people’s victory.” We found that out afterwards. We go in and it’s on Pentecost. We ended up on the 500th year anniversary of the Reformation, Pentecost in this location where the activity of the Holy Spirit was taken out. I saw on this sign that they were going to be having a concert. They were going to be doing a classical performance on the stage. There was a stage in that hall.

REBECCA: I sang opera for nine years. It was a Jehovah sneaky moment. The Lord said, “Becca, go up and ask him if you can sing on that platform.” I did. I said, “Can I sing? I sing?” He spoke broken English so I sang two lines of a German aria in German. What began to happen, even singing the aria, the presence of the Lord began to fall in that place where they had said, “No more Holy Spirit.” Not only did it fall, it fell on Klaus. I then went into singing “Amazing Grace” because the Lord said, “Release the sound from this place of my grace that a harvest can come.”

REBECCA: I opened my mouth and started singing “Amazing Grace” a cappella. By the time I was done, Sid, Klaus is sweating profusely. The glory of the Lord is in this location and he was weeping at the same time. I said, “It’s Jesus and the Holy Spirit.” He was seeing Jesus in that moment and he said, “Ja, ja, ja, ja! Jesus wonderful! Jesus wonderful! Oh, my heart! My heart!” For his [      ]. On that day, Klaus got saved, had his Holy Spirit encounter, and a harvest began to break out in that region.

SID: You know, I’m having the thought. When we come back, we’re going to have her sing over you. When she sings over you, I believe you’re going to get strategies, supernatural strategies, to be a winner and not a loser in every area of your life. Be right back.