Becky: And I went running to the man and I got down to him and when I reached down and touched him, he felt like he had been dead for a long time. His body was cold and stiff like it had been dead for a very long time. And I said, “In Jesus’ name, I renounce the spirit of death. In Jesus’ name, I command you to come back to life.” And nothing happened. And I’m like going, “Oh Lord, this is a healing evangelist’s worst nightmare.” I’m like going, “A man actually died in the healing line. Help me, Lord.” And so I was a little confused at what was going on, why? And so I laid my hand on him again and I said, “You breathe now in Jesus’ name.” And I said it three times. “You breathe, breathe, breathe in the name of Jesus.”

And he took this big gasp of breath … and then he started to roll around and foam at the mouth and all this demonic activity started coming out of the man. I’m starting to stand up looking at this. And a woman out there had come to visit her people and she said, she goes, “Don’t you know who he is?” And I said, “I don’t, I don’t know who he is. Who is he?” She goes, “He’s the witch doctor.” And I was like, “Oh, I get it.” And that morning I had prayed very differently before going out and ministering to the people all day. I had, as we were praying in the spirit, [speaking tongues] as we were praying in tongues that morning, I prayed something I’d never prayed before. But I’ve prayed it ever since. I said, “And may every curse and assignment that they try to put on us today, may it bounce back on them and teach them a lesson in Jesus’ name.”

SID: Well, that was a literal bounce back. The guy goes to touch her, to put a curse on her, and he falls out dead. Would you pray right now against the spirit of death, the demon a death?

BECKY: Amen.

SID: Because I know the authority you carry.

BECKY: Okay, let’s hold hands. In the name of Jesus right now I renounce that spirit of death coming against you in the name of Jesus. I declare no weapon formed against you will prosper. This disease, this sickness in Jesus’ name, you leave their body, that spirit of suicide, you leave their body, that desire to abort your child. I command that spirit of death to come off of you in the mighty name of Jesus. No weapon formed against you will prosper. No evil will come near your dwelling. And those lying spirits will be silenced in the name of Jesus. That spirit of death, you come off of these people right now in the name of Jesus. Amen.

SID: Amen. But then, the next day, she goes to visit the witch doctor. What happened?

BECKY: Yes. I went to go visit him the next day with the help of the interpreters and I wanted to give him the opportunity to get born again if he was willing. And I walked into his hut and I said, “Hi, I’m Becky. Do you remember me?” And he went like this, because he didn’t want to look at me and he was afraid to look at me. And he was … and he felt embarrassed about everything that happened because he realized that he was operating in the lesser power than what we operate in Jesus. Amen? And so, I gave him the opportunity to get born again and he says, “I can’t do what you’re asking me to do.” And I said, “why can’t you?” He said, “The other which doctors,” which are higher than he is, “They already came to visit me and they threatened me if I give my life to Jesus.”

And I tried to minister to him and he said, “I can’t. They’ve come and they have threatened my life. I cannot do this.” And I said, “Okay, I’m telling you how to get born again. I’m just telling you and this is what you do.” And so I told him and we were walking out of the hut and outside of his hut were standing several of his wives, because out there they have multiple wives and many children and grandchildren and all of that. And they were standing outside of the hut and he walked me out to the doorway. So he saw everything and heard everything that was going on and they said, “We don’t want what you have. We don’t want your inheritance. We want this Jesus that she’s talking about.”

SID: You literally saw the contest between evil and God. And it’s a no contest. We win.

SID: How could you know that? How could you make a statement to a mother, that her son is dead, dead, dead? And I guess if he ever for some miracle became alive, he’d be brain dead.

JASON: Because I saw life in his eyes and I knew those two angels. I’d seen them before and I knew it. I walked out, we said, I mean he is walking out of the hospital and we held onto that. The next morning I came back though and it was about 9:00 AM and walk in and he’s still in bad shape. I mean, he was still in a coma. Doctors are still saying there was no hope. I walk up to his bed and I said, “John, this is Pastor Jason,” and we’d actually never met. I’d only been their pastor for three months at this point.

And I walked up to his bed and I said, “John, this is Pastor Jason.” And tears started rolling down his eyes and I said, “Do you want me to stay with you?” And he shook his head yes. And at that moment I felt like the Lord said, as a shepherd, there are times that I call pastors to leave the 99 for the one. And that’s what I’m calling you to do. And I stuck by his side. We saw God do incredible miracles. He walked out of the hospital completely healed and whole 16 days later.

SID: How old is John Smith now and what is his health like?

JASON: John Smith is 19 years old and he was cleared by all doctors 40 days after that. He is perfectly fine.

SID: There’s a word that God taught you. and most people don’t know what you’re really… They know what the word means, but they don’t know what you’re referring to. God said positioning. Did he speak to you with an audible voice?

JASON: And audible voice. Because I was wrestling with this. I go… And even before John’s accident, I was wrestling with reading the Book Of Acts, seeing people in incredible need today knowing God could do miracles that we read about in the Book Of Acts and throughout the New Testament, but not seeing it today. There’s a disconnect. And I was praying, “Lord, do what you did in the Book Of Acts today. We need you to show up. People need breakthrough.” And a week later, John Smith happened. And as we walked through that process, I go, “Okay Lord, I know we can’t dictate the outcomes of miracles. We can’t be really focused, but what do we need to do?”

And I started this study through the scripture of looking at every miracle and realizing that God always chooses to partner with us when he’s about to do a miracle or breakthrough, whether that be in finances or health. He always uses a human component. And we need to position ourselves for a miracle. And the greatest perspective is… It’s like a baseball analogy. You’re out in right field, out in the… And you don’t know when a ball’s coming, but when it comes, you got to be ready to catch it. And that’s the best way of how to position ourselves, I think, for a miracle, to be ready for what God wants to do.

SID: I want you to take me through how Joyce Smith positioned herself for her son’s miracle.

JASON: Yeah, definitely. When she walked into that room, she’d heard the report, she knew exactly what the doctors were saying about John, that he was dead. And in a split second, because I believe that if she would have made a different move, if she would’ve said, okay, I’m just going to allow my son to die, he would’ve been gone. But in a split second… And so many times it’s our split second response when we get that call and life turns upside down, what we do in that split second will dictate if we’re going to position ourselves for a miracle or not.

When Joyce walked into that room, she didn’t have to think about it. It was inside of her. She grabbed his feet and she prayed, “Holy spirit, bring my son back to life.” There was not any other talk. And what I always say is that when we get into a moment like that, what we put inside of us is what comes out. And that’s why it’s so important to, before it even happens, before we’re even in a situation, to be putting that stuff inside of us to know. And what stuff am I talking about? The scripture, God’s principles, about how do we position ourselves. That stuff inside of us so that when that moment comes that we can do what Joyce did and position ourselves and believe God for a miracle.

SID: God told him so many things.

JASON: Yes.

SID: In addition to how to position yourself? God told him to ignore certain things. Imagine, ignore them. We’ll be right back.

SID: I have Hrvoje Sirovina here from Germany. Hrvoje, You went to my favorite country, Israel, and you go in the Garden Tomb and you are praying about resurrection. Explain.

HRVOJE: Yeah. I took a group of 70 people to Israel and Jerusalem just to experience, the land, the Holy land. And we went to the Garden Tomb because we prayed for the anointing of the resurrection power.

SID: But then guess what? He had a chance to use it.

HRVOJE: The very next day. We didn’t know what’s going to happen. But from the Damascus Gate half way to the Via Dolorosa we encountered … There was a group. So they opened up a aisle for us and we passed through the aisle. But then we were surprised there was a man lying down on the street. And there was a Polish doctor, and I asked him “What’s happened?” And he said he fell from the roof and he died around 50 minutes ago. He said, “No pulse, we are waiting for the ambulance.”

SID: Did you remember that prayer you prayed?

HRVOJE: Afterwards, actually, because we immediately started to do what we knew to do, is praying in tongues, in the spirit. So we prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and suddenly such a sweet smell arose, and I knew the Holy Spirit is going to do something. So we prayed for a couple of minutes and suddenly a voice came out of this man. He was like … but fell back again. And after a while he did it another time. And at the third time he woke up, rose, took his mobile, said to his friend, “Call my wife and say everything is okay.”

SID: That’s just standard though, of Israel. Raise the dead, blind see, deaf hear. Most people don’t even know about redeeming your bloodline. What is it and why is it so necessary?

HRVOJE: Redeeming your bloodline is about actually living in the natural what we are already in the spiritual. Jesus did everything he could for us to live a supernatural life, a blessed life, a life full of peace, health and everything. But actually we don’t see that every time. Actually when I traveled the world, I see so many people who believe in God, who really believe in God, but yet still struggle in life. And we see that even with David where David said in Psalm 51 when he said, “I was brought forth in iniquity and my mother conceived me in sin.” Which means even though he believed in God, there were things in his life because of his ancestors, and he had to deal with that. And that’s where he said, “Wash me Lord. Wash–”

SID: Now if David had problems because of his ancestors, what about us?

HRVOJE: It seems like–

SID: Look how many more ancestors we have.

HRVOJE: That’s right. So Jesus said on the cross, “It is finished.” And there is nothing he could add to that. It is finished. But Paul said, “I am not perfected yet.” Paul the great apostle who followed Jesus with all his heart, he said, “I am not perfected yet.” Which means there are areas in our lives where we still, what Jesus did on the cross, have to apply in our own lives so that we can experience everything what he released on the cross.

I’ve written this book Redeeming your Bloodline actually in the German language first. So after I released–

SID: It was a best seller in Germany.

HRVOJE: Actually yes, I was surprised how good is going to sell because we didn’t promote it. So the first week a gentleman told me a story, how, about his heart issue. And he was a Christian for many, many years and he said he broke curses over his life. He prayed all the prayers he knew and he’s had still heart issues, unregular heartbeat, and all these things, which also his ancestors and his parents had suffered from. And he said after he prayed through the prayers of my book, he immediately got healed and had no heart issues at all.

SID: Give me another testimony.

HRVOJE: I like the testimony of another gentleman who was in a … He actually was in a severe accident where he severely damaged his head. And he fell into a coma and the doctors, they already said, “We can’t help him.” So in desperation, his wife called. Actually called the church where I serve as a senior pastor and asked for help. So we told her, “Come in, we are going to pray with you the way we pray.” So we prayed and we prayed through the bloodline of her life and also of his life. So the doctors … A day before the doctors called her in and said, “You have to say goodbye to your husband because there is nothing more we can do.” After we prayed the prayers and redeemed and cleansed her bloodline, the very next day he started to recover, he woke up and he’s well and alive.

SID: You talk about bloodline. You’ve mentioned it. Bloodline prayer, what exactly is that?

HRVOJE: Bloodline prayer. What we see in the Bible when the Bible speaks about salvation, we actually see three tenses of salvation. Which means there is a salvation in the past. Salvation which is proceeding in the present and a salvation which is in the future. So when we receive Jesus into our heart, we got saved. Everything what he did belongs legally to us. Every blessing, health, peace, everything belongs to us, but that’s salvation in the past, which means our spirit got saved and now eternity is secured for us. But concerning our soul, that’s a proceeding redemption, a proceeding salvation where we got cleansed. Because yes, we believe in Jesus, but yet still we sometimes get sick, still sometimes get angry, still sometimes have issues with forgiveness and bitterness. Which means, hey, there is still work to do for us in the process of perfection.

SID: Sometimes people still have addictions.

HRVOJE: And people sometimes have addictions, which means that they try hard. They try to believe in God but something is holding them back. Actually Paul spoke about that in Romans 7:19-20 where he said, “I do things I don’t want to do, and the things I do want to do, I don’t.” And he said, “It’s not me. It’s the sin in me.” Paul, who was saved, believed in Jesus and yet he still said, “There is still an effect of sin in my life.”