SID: Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My name is Sid Roth and I’m with Charles Ndifon from Nigeria. Now I had the opportunity of meeting Charles in person before this television show, and as a result of the time we spent together, I am telling you there will be more manifestations of miracles than have ever happened in the history of this telecast, and that’s saying a lot. One of the things, Charles, that I noticed is that there is a presence of a healing anointing like a river that is all around you. It is almost as if you do not have to put your hand on someone for them to be healed. By just being in your presence… Is this what occurs?
CHARLES: We found out, quite amazing, a lot of the meetings we’ve had around different parts of the world, that seemed to be the case. We were in Iceland. I just walked into the auditorium and people started getting healed. It’s the presence of Jesus. Wherever we go, we discover His presence changes the lives of people.
SID: Ok, something happened to you in 1987 which you guys from Nigeria, you have such wonderful childlike faith. And that’s actually one of the requirements; the Messiah said we must be like a little child to even enter the kingdom of heaven. But something happened to you, very highly unusual in 1987. Tell me about that.
CHARLES: What actually happened was, I was very hungry. I was studying mechanical engineering as a student. I was very curious. I wanted the real thing, I didn’t want anything that’s not real. And what I said was, I read the scriptures that say “If anyone loves Me, My Father and I will come and manifest Ourselves to him.” When I read that, I said “Jesus, I love You. Show Yourself to me.” And for a whole week, I’d been going through the word of God and reading it, it was amazing. I discovered He’s alive. I had four visions that really changed my life…
SID: What do you mean, you discovered He’s alive? You were a born again believer. How could you have been a born again believer, and then all of a sudden say I’ve discovered He’s alive? I’m not understanding.
CHARLES: This is what happened. There’s one thing about reading about a person, and getting to meet the person. And what happened to me is I got to meet Jesus. Paul made a statement, he said “He appeared to many people, and He appeared to me many years after He had been risen from the dead. And it seemed too far fetched,” Paul said, “it was almost impossible for that to happen, but He appeared to me too.” And I can say the same thing. I said “Jesus, if You’re real, make Yourself real to me.” And we were there…
SID: Did you really expect Him to?
CHARLES: I did.
SID: You did, ok. Go ahead.
CHARLES: I expected Him to because I knew He couldn’t fail, He couldn’t break what He had said. His word is true. So what happened was, we were in the campus center, we were being commissioned to go into the world…
SID: Excuse me, you know people are being healed right now as we’re talking?
CHARLES: I know.
SID: Do you know that there are people… What I heard is someone with a pain in their neck; I don’t know if it’s whiplash or what, all that pain is gone. But I want to hear what happened to you in 1987!
CHARLES: It’s amazing. In fact, when we started speaking before we started this program off today, I realized so many miracles were already taking place. There is somebody with a brain tumor that’s just been healed. I saw another person blind in the left eye, wearing a red shirt, just instantly healed. Their eyes just opened up. It’s marvelous what’s already taking place. It’s marvelous. So back to what happened, I was very hungry for His presence, because the scripture says “Anyone who believes in Me, what I do, they’ll do also. And if you love Me, My Father will manifest Himself to you.” And so what happened was, we’re in the campus center, hands are being laid on us commissioning us to go to the world. It was a normal day, 3 o’clock in the afternoon.
I really wasn’t expecting it was going to be that day, it was just a normal day. We had students there. And the gentleman laid hands on me and went to the next person. When he did that, Jesus appeared to me just as you are sitting here. I was not sleeping, I was not dreaming. It’s amazing how He can appear to you and people don’t see Him. It’s amazing, like Paul said. He talked about his experience. In fact, there might be people watching this that will be experiencing the same thing: Jesus showing up, appearing to them,
showing Himself that He’s alive. It says that He showed Himself alive by many infallible proofs. He showed Himself after His passion. And the same thing happened. So He showed Himself alive, just as you are there. The first thought that came to my mind was, either I’m dead… I felt so unclean. I said “Oh Lord, what’s going on? What’s going on? Whatever I’ve done, I really am sorry. I repent of everything over and over again.” I could not contain His presence. It was amazing. But what I realized was He looked right through me and never condemned me. His eyes were so full of love.
SID: What you witnessed was what the Bible talks about as perfect love.
CHARLES: Exactly.
SID: Unconditional, pure…
CHARLES: Somebody calls it liquid love, you can feel it. Exactly what happened to me.
He never condemned me. He just looked at me and all He said was “Announce the good news. Preach the gospel. As I was with those in the past, so will I be with you. If the people can believe the message you give them, no sickness, no disease will be able to stand against you.
SID: Let’s look at a man that, for ten years, was confined to a wheelchair in Zimbabwe;
what happened when he was in the presence of Charles.
Get up and walk. Get up and walk!
Walk! Walk!
(applause & praise)
Walk! Walk! Walk!
Turn around.
(applause & praise)
Glory! Glory! Glory!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
(applause & praise)
