Sid: A few weeks ago I interviewed Jennifer Toledo. She has a children’s ministry if you remember; she was the one that was in Africa, and she also was the one that had a real crisis I believe she was 19 years old and she was in love with someone. She was ready to marry him, and the Holy Spirit said “I’ll bless you if you marry him, but he’s not My best choice.” She decided at that young age “I’m going for the gold.” I mean how few young women would do this. She was crushed, but she said “God I love you more than anyone or anything.” Well God honored that faith, and Jennifer is now married to Jonatan Toledo. I have the both of them on the telephone. They are the heads of Global Childrens Movement located in Foley, Alabama. The fruit of their marriage, Jennifer is your little daughter… How old is she?
Jennifer: 5 months.
Sid: Tell me her name it’s a Swahili word?
Jennifer: Her name is Malaika Harvest.
Sid: Now what does Malaika mean?
Jennifer: Malaika is a Swahili word for angel. We just felt like it was prophetically symbolic that we call her, her name actually means angel at harvest. We believe she is a picture of her generation that the Lord is releasing, angels at harvest.
Sid: Jonatan, I think it is so amazing of how you got to the United States. Would you just very briefly tell us where you’re from and how that happened?
Jonatan: Well I am originally from Guatemala, but I was living in Quito, Ecuador in South America with my parents. A good friend now, Shawn Bolz, he went to Ecuador on a trip. Before we met he had a dream the night before about an invitation God was giving me to come to Kansas City. So the next day we met and he brought the word, and I knew it was the Lord. I had peace, even though I didn’t know him at all, or I didn’t know anything about Kansas City at the time; we just knew it was God. So after like 2 months I was able to come to Kansas City.
Sid: So it’s a real miracle that you came to Kansas City, and of course you met Jennifer. Now Jennifer I have to ask you, can you see the wisdom of God at this moment in your life when you were asked to give up that young man at 19?
Jennifer: Oh absolutely. I’m so grateful that I obeyed. You know at that time when you’re walking through it it seems like well “This seems like to be the best thing.” You know our ideas of what we think is best are so much smaller than what God’s best is for us. So I am so grateful that I was able to trust the Lord in that decision because Jonatan has been such a blessing to my life and we’re so happy. It’s so wonderful to know that you’re living in God’s best.
Sid: Okay, the reason I asked Jennifer back and her husband Jonatan, is they had literally a vision, a visitation, Jennifer had of a place in heaven called the Weeping Room. Why do I want you to hear this? Because one of the most important things for you to develop is God’s compassion for the lost; God’s compassion for the hurting; God’s compassion for things beyond yourself, your family, your house, your job, your ministry, and she had an experience that I believe as you hear about you will be pulled into supernatural compassion, God’s heart, God’s compassion. Jennifer tell me how this began.
Jennifer: What happened was a couple of years ago I was in a season of just seeking the Lord and just asking Him to give me His heart, and His perspective on things. While in this time I was just praying and seeking God and I begin to have an encounter. It was much like a vision actually, but what I saw is I just saw myself being taken up to heaven. I was in a spiritual place where I saw what looked like the Father’s house, I don’t know else how to explain it. I just saw all these rooms in the Father’s house, and the Lord began to just escort me room by room and just show me different things. Each room had such meaning and symbolism. I could see different believers that were drawn to different rooms in the Father’s house. I saw some people who just loved to be in the library in the study room, and they’re reading books, and they were just so happy in that place. I saw people who were getting drunk in the wine cellar…
Sid: That’s sort of like at Pentecost where it says they were accused of being drunk because they were so filled with the Holy Spirit and joy.
Jennifer: Exactly. So they were just you know drinking of the Holy Spirit and just losing themselves in that place. All over the house there was just different things that were happening all this activity, but the Lord invited me into the most precious room in the house. This was the intimacy chamber. When I went in I was taken away with just the beauty in that room and just the presence of the Lord. I felt like this is what I was made for, intimacy with God, intimate friendship with God. I just felt so secure in who I was, I felt secure in His love, it was just a beautiful place. As I was just admiring in this vision all the different details in this room and just basking in His love, I noticed something that caught my attention. There’s this beautiful big bed but next to the bed on the floor was a little tiny wooden trap door. Quite honestly when I saw it, I thought “That is very bizarre, that doesn’t fit in this beautiful room. What is it? Where does it lead to?” I just asked the Lord, what is that? Why a little wooden trap door in this great room? He said “Well down that door leads to a very very special place.” I said “My goodness where could this room possibly lead?” He told me “That’s the weeping room.” I thought “The weeping room? That sounds horrible that doesn’t sound at all like a place I’d like to go. Why would you connect a room to this place called ‘The Weeping Room’ to this precious room? He told me “You know that’s where I spend most of my time.” I was just shocked, and I didn’t understand it I didn’t have understanding of what this meant. I said “Lord if that’s where You spend Your time, that’s where I want to go, please take me there.” Before He would take me He said “You know you need to be sure because it’s not like the rest of the house. It’s not glorious, it’s not extravagant, it’s not fun, it’s lonely. It’s low, you have get low even to get in, it’s not comfortable. I just said “Jesus, I want to be where you are. I don’t care what it cost me.” He opened the little trap door He began to walk me down down down this long spiral staircase. We came to tiny little door, and actually I had to get on my knees to fit through the door. When we went in it was a very simple room all that was in there was a little wooden chair and a window. The Lord went and He sat on the chair and He looked out this window. As soon as He did that I had revelation as to why this was called “The Weeping Room.” In that window you could see and you could hear every single cry of injustice coming from the earth all at one time.
Sid: That’s got to be more than someone can bear.
Jennifer: Oh exactly! I couldn’t even take it all in, it was Jesus who was taking it all in. Watching Him take it all in just made fall to pieces in this vision, I mean I just began to weep, I mean in the natural I just cried and cried. He heard every prayer coming from the earth, every child being abused, every woman being raped, every hungry person, every single person crying out on the earth. Jesus saw it all, and He listened to every single thing. He was not silent, He was not turning His face, He watched with great compassion and great love. I was so undone by this King, so beautiful, so kind that He has everything God has everything. He would choose to spend time in this place, He chooses to hear the cries of the poor, the lost, the broken, and I just wept. Of course naturally I just began to weep and weep, for the first time in my life it was like in my head I always knew that God was a compassionate God. For the first time in my life I actually began to feel His compassion. I think we all have a measure of compassion, but I truly began to feel His compassion. Pretty soon it was like I just began to be consumed with the emotions of God. While I was in this place Sid, I saw another little door in this room. I thought “Where could this room possibly lead this is just unbelievable.” So I asked the Lord “What does that door lead to, where does this room go?” He said “That is the strategy room.” When He said that I understood that in that room, although I couldn’t see in there, thee was worldwide strategy for revival, there was strategy for feeding the hungry people in the world, for the cures for diseases like AIDS, there was strategy for peace between nations, I mean everything you could imagine was in that place. There’s a place in heaven with divine strategy and I knew it was the heart of God that His people get into that room.
Sid: Well before we even get to that let me ask you a question. What was going on with Jesus when He was hearing all these horrible things, all these injustices going on throughout the world?
Jennifer: The Lord just sat there and he wept, Jesus wept. He was moved with great compassion. I could just see His face like even though there was millions of voices coming at one time, and scenes being played out all at one time. It was like He saw each one with such intensity, with such compassion He was so aware…
Sid: You know this is consistent with scripture because in Isaiah 63:9 where God is talking about the Jewish people He says “In all their affliction He was afflicted.” I believe, I can speak for myself, and I think I can speak for most of you, we all need more of God’s compassion.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth