Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be worshippers of God. We want the marriages in our churches, in Messianic Jewish Congregations to provoke the world to jealousy. And right now there doesn’t seem to be much of a difference between marriages in the church and marriages outside of the church. We’re coming into the greatest outpouring of God’s Spirit in all history and He wants your marriage to be what He has instructed to be. He wants it to be heaven on earth, He doesn’t want mutual toleration society, He doesn’t want divorce, He doesn’t want a weak… How important a man and woman in ministry is it for them to have a solid marriage? How important is it for a someone with working in the market place and considers themselves to be a good Christian to have a solid marriage? I’ve got on the telephone Pastor Gary Whetstone and Gary is Pastor of Victory Christian Fellowship in New Castle, Delaware. He’s President of the Gary Whetstone Worldwide Ministries which has founded over 207 Bible Schools worldwide. He’s been teaching marriage seminars of which I have 6 cassettes in a binder with a workbook called “What God Has Joined together” ….How important Gary Whetstone is a man’s wife if the man has a mega ministry, and is on television and wandering around the US, or the man is a head of a corporation, or he’s involved in all of these other activities where does the wife fit in in priority?
Gary: One of the things Sid that I think is very critical when we’re talking about husband and wife in relationship and that has to back to the Biblical basis of God called man and that God called woman. If you’re going to ask how does a woman integrate into a man’s life to bring forth the highest degree of fulfillment? First we must understand the creation of man. The gender of the male is the physiological and in the spiritual dimension originating out from God Himself. Man is an initiator, man is literally as a genius he is a creator that’s why Jesus had to come as a man and could not be a woman. Because the woman came from the man himself and her intrinsic quality and commitment is just like it says she is a woman. One that receives the seed of the future, one that takes the initiated plan, one that takes the future goals and objectives and she brings it into her life to incubate, to literally formulate and to assist in bringing that into fruition. I have found that when a man understands the nature of a man, and the Biblical understanding of relationship in marriage, and he understands the makeup of the woman Biblically there becomes a tremendous level of appreciation, value, honor, and esteem that man gives to the woman. It’s just like the scripture in John chapter 8 verse 31 and 32 Jesus said to those Jews that believed on Him that “If you continue in my word then are you my disciples in deed. And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.” Many people only take a few sentences in the Bible and they try to build an entire life off of a few scriptures and that is ludicrous. The Bible says that you have got to continue, you begin on a path of revelation and you do not quit until you experience the freedom that’s in that revelation. That’s what I as a man, as a husband, as a father, as a Pastor in a church now, and the world Missionary Evangelist going and penetrating nations with the word is that there must be the depth of the continuation in truth for permanent freedom of result.
Sid: Let me ask you question you were divorced from your wife Faye, and it should have been written in concrete in history you will never see this woman again she will be remarried; you will be remarried you both go on your separate ways but that was not the way it was recorded. It’s recorded in history that you remarried, it’s recorded in history that you’re children had a mother and father to raise them, it’s recorded in history that the two you have become one and are accomplishing mighty things for God. What was it was there one ingredient that caused Faye your wife to change her mind and remarry you?
Gary: Sid I think that you could go to any of the disturbed marriages of America, those that have been divorced and those that are living miserable ever after. What it is, is that the wife is looking for change in the husband. And most of us despise the attitude that we have to prove ourselves to anyone and because of the depth of the insecurity and the inability of knowing what are the people looking for in our lives most men retreat in a depth of bitterness and frustration and anger when it comes to their wives wanting to see change. But the good news is this, the change comes when the man gives himself to the word of God. The word of God is able to clean them like Jesus said in John. He’s able to take the truth of the word and bring freedom. Change is the order of and the affect of the Holy Spirit in the word. When Faye saw change, not something I was trying to put on, but change that became a valid life transformation the conviction that God has changed me and His ability to change her was then set in concrete. That’s what really set her heart back again to believe that this is a new marriage. Nobody wants to return to the miserable life they had before. Everybody’s looking for change.
Sid: Question Gary, had you not followed Biblical principals or vice a versa if it was your wife that had become the believer had she not followed Biblical principles is there any way in the world a) That you’d be remarried; b) To be married today happily to someone else.
Gary: Yeah, the real of marriage is found in the fact that we can only experience what we know and what we don’t know unfortunately suffer the detriment of it. And without the word of God being the sign post of my life, being the very desire of my heart I could not have succeeded in my marriage with Faye nor in any other marriage. Because like many of us on the radio listening we have seen so many marriages they marry another woman or another man very similar to their first, very similar…
Sid: Isn’t it amazing I’ve seen that.
Gary: It’s because of the repetitive cycle it’s called a yoke. Isaiah 10 verse 27 deals with the anointing breaking the yoke and most people live a repetitive cycle of failure in their life because of invisible yokes that bind them. But you know that if a man or a woman, and it only takes one to reconcile a home it does not take two. Because one moving in the God authority has power to bring visitation to the other spouse. It’s incredible what God will do if just one family member will stand.
Sid: Any exceptions?
Gary: I have never seen in my life as serving full time ministry and being a Christian, I have never seen any man or any woman who has radically sold out to the word of God not see results, never. And we have several thousand of people that every week come to our church in ministry. I mean there’s a lot of people, I mean we are working in multitudes of nations and in cultures that literally have made woman like cattle but we’ve watched it work in every culture. Even in polygamy where men have said “Okay, I’ve got 9 wives.” Many of our areas of Africa that we minister in have that type of lifestyle; we have seen the word transform those homes and families.
Sid: Gary, I’m going to be so bold as to say that every pastor listening to us needs this to help those that he’s going to marry.
Gary: Absolutely.
Sid: Tell me about one family that has changed.
Gary: We have a family that’s in our church that… what had happened was that one of the spouses had fallen into adultery and had never been able to come free in the relationship with the other spouse because of the pain and the fear of rejection in being exposed and held that sin inside for years. As they heard teaching on “What God Has Joined Together” the power of the blood, having cleansing in the relationship, having a fearless communication without the fear of rejection they took the chance in a very controlled environment to share what had happened at a point of weakness in the earlier years in marriage. You know what happened Sid?
Sid: What?
Gary: Because the word had been planted in the husband and the wife there was no judgment, there was only the sense of “I thank God this pressure is off of your life.” Where many other times if it was in the world or even some Christian that I know the husband or the wife would have just flared up with anger, bitterness, frustration or accusations.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth