Sid: I have Pat Schatzline on the telephone, and Pat you told me last night had a dream in which I was in it. And I’d like you to tell me exactly what God told you to deliver.
Pat: Last night I fell asleep and was excited about our time again today and Sid somewhere between 4 AM and 5 AM I had a dream this morning and I’m sitting with you and we were in the audience I didn’t know where it was at. Well we were sitting at a desk and I turned to you and the Lord said “You tell him that I have not given him a spirit of fear but I’ve given him authority and I’m opening doors on his behalf. He cannot accept anything the enemy says.” And then He says “You tell the audience those that are listening if you’re walking through fear that God has not given us a spirit of fear but a power of love and soundness of mind.” And I need to tell you audience those that are listening right now He said that “I can break depression, fear and discouragement and My joy can overwhelm.” But Sid it was so clear in this dream and I don’t have a great deal of dreams, I’m not an every night dreamer. But He said to me, and I wrestled with it, He said you tell Sid that fear has tried to overwhelm him for what I wanted him to do to stop and to let me do it.”
Sid: Sounds good to me. One of the messages we’re… the title is “Why is God So Mad at Me?” Now you have done a number of meetings with young people who are what are called cutters where they cut themselves. And by the time they hear this message not only do they get free from cutting but what happens to their scars?
Pat: You know it started happening 4 years ago at a big festival at Monterey, California. My son came to me and I had just got done speaking and he said “Dad, there’s a bunch of students that want to meet with you.” And I had spoken to about 30,000 and I said “Son, I’m tired I flew all night to get here.” He goes dad, you got to do this.” So I go outside and youth pastors are holding their teenagers with their arms out. And I said “Hey, what’s happening?” And the Youth Pastors are weeping going “Their scars disappeared in the middle of your service.” First time it happened. Blood is still in some of their arms where they’d been cutting that morning in their tents at this festival, but their scars are gone. Sid but then it began to happen all over the place.
Sid: Now just out of curiosity are you saying, proclaiming that this is going to happen, or just because of the power and the anointing it just happens.
Pat: It just happens and you know what when I’m in the middle of speaking t and God will say “Tell them right now.” And I just did that in Indianapolis with about 7,000 teenagers and I said “God says that if you’re a cutter your scars will disappear.” I just go on preaching and all of a sudden a beautiful little girl comes running up after the service and I’m at the table and she’s dancing and I said “Sweetheart, what’s going on?” And she started dancing and I said “Sweetheart what’s going on because we have such a wounded generation. She said “I was raped by my father, I was raped by my stepfather, and I was raped by my boyfriend. A beautiful 16 year old girl and she said “And I’m a cutter.” But when you said that I looked down and she peeled back her band-aides. And she said “Sir, all my cuts are gone.” You know Sid, I asked God “I said “God, why do you do that, a very strange manifestation?” And He said Son, “When the love of a Father enters in when I break that orphan spirit I not only heal the inside but I can transform the outside.” And this happens all over the place when we go in. People that cut which cutting is controlled pain, people cut themselves. I’ve got family members that are not kids that cut themselves and they do it because it’s the only pain they can control and it becomes addictive. It’s a high it’s almost like a drug. And so when God enters in and begins to heal them the inside he can manifest healing on the outside. And I have met over and over… one young lady I was speaking at an event and she was watching on the internet. She had cut herself so much even on her face that I’m preaching a message in the book “Weeping Lions of Glory Lambs.” She’s watching on the internet; goes into the bathroom in Detroit, Michigan to wipe her face off because she had been crying so much that even the cuts on her face were gone. And she actually sent me a Facebook message this morning because she’s telling her testimony at a suicide prevention center.
Sid: One time you shared this message and you had a vision for a couple who had recently lost their son he had died.
Pat: Right, that happened back in November this last year. I’m in Virginia a couple comes up to my table, the pastor’s wife and I’m actually signing a book of all things for someone. The Pastor’s wife whispers to me that this couple really got touched by God tonight. And I said “Okay” and I’m still signing. And she said “Their son was killed 2 months ago in a car accident he was 19 years old in Myrtle Beach. I dropped the book because my ultimate fear would be to lose my 22 year old son. I turn and grab the mother by the hands and she’s talking away. And instantly when I took her hands the Holy Spirit took me to heaven and I saw this tall lanky yet red headed young man worshipping before the throne of God. I immediately… and he had on a red flannel shirt of all things. And I immediately came back to the woman and she’s talking and I said “I have to interrupt you, I need to ask you some things,” I have never done this before. I said “Was your son tall.” And she said “Oh, tall and lanky.” I said “Did he worship with his arms spread out before.” She said “Just like an eagle.” And I said “Was he red headed?” And she said “Absolutely.” I said “I’m going to ask you something even crazier, did your son have a red flannel shirt?” Her teenage daughter who was standing right there, I write about this in the book. Her teenage daughter immediately begins to weep, she said “I go into his room and smell it every day it was his favorite shirt.” And I said “Mam you’ve been worried that your son did not make it to heaven, God told me to tell you that he made it and I saw him worshipping.” She fell out in the spirit, what that means she fell out on the floor and began to cry out to God. Her husband, their all probably my age in their 40’s weeping uncontrollably. He’d been taken from a life of drug addictions and all kinds of things and I put them in the book. In fact the book was at press and I called my publisher and I told them “Hold on I’ve got to add this story because God let me see heaven for this woman.”
Sid: Just out of curiosity, besides seeing her son did you see anything else in heaven?
Pat: Oh, all I saw was the glory of the Lord and I did see the knees and the feet of God on the throne.
Sid: Now when you say you saw the glory of the Lord, tell me what you saw.
Pat: Whenever you see the thick billowing smoke, white smoke in the clouds in the sky when you fly that’s what I saw all around me. In fact it was moving and dancing. And the very lights of heaven were bouncing off of it. And you know Sid I asked the Lord I pray every night “Lord, I want to see heaven.” And I said “Lord, you let me see heaven, why?” And he said “Son, blessed are the pure in heart because they shall see God.” You had no motives when you took her by the hand accept compassion. And compassion is the armor that God gives you to bring forth truth, but compassion is also the doorway to transform lives.
Sid: I’ve noticed when I read in the gospels about miracles and Jesus often that word “compassion” is in there. Have you seen…I think it’s wonderful the scars are disappearing from the cutters but have you seen other types of miracles happen?
Pat: Absolutely, we had a young lady come in a wheelchair completely crippled last year and rolled in. By the end of the service when I said to stand up for the altar call without thinking she had been hurt in an accident was completely handicapped paralyzed, she stood up. She suddenly realized that she was standing, the next thing I know she’s standing on her wheelchair and her mom is on the other end of the cell phone she’s screaming “Momma I’m healed, I’m healed.” And you know even another greater miracle was a 78 year old that came to me and said “Pat I cried all the way thru the service.” I said “Sir, are you okay” 78 years old lived in Canada. He said “You don’t understand that when you began to preach tonight God took me back to when I was 14 and he said “I’ve never been to church before till tonight 78 years old. When I walked my father to the train station he would be getting on a train to go into battle, to leave. He promised me that he would come back but he never came back. As I walked through the snow God gave me a vision, a 78 year old unsaved man said “God gave me a vision as I was walking back through the snow in the woods to go home after watching my father wave goodbye I saw Jesus come through the woods and put his arms around me.” The greatest compassion miracles and he’s just weeping and he just got saved. The greatest compassion miracles are not just physical it’s when God takes that wounded, weary, exhausted scarred person. I would say that the scars on earth are the testimonies in heaven. If you’ve not been through something’s you’re probably not a good soldier. But God and I’ve learned this that it’s impossible to have compassion without first having pain. So if your listening right now and you’ve been through a lot of stuff you know what you’ve been through is a great indication to what you’re called to. It’s how you defeat the enemy. I have compassion for someone that loses a sibling because I lost my sister to a drug overdose. I have compassion for those who have mental illness in their family, why? Because God takes what we been through and uses it for His glory. And not becomes instead of a crutch, it becomes a wing.
Sid: You know I’m hearing some words of knowledge so I’ve got to state them right now. People with arthritis in their hands and in their fingers if you’ll move your fingers, if you’ll move your wrists the joints actually any joint you’re being healed in Jesus Name right now. Have you seen people healed of cancer in your meetings Pat?
Pat: Yes Sir, absolutely in fact we had one little boy 14 years old had been sent home to die they brought him to a service and I walked over to him. I must interrupt this for just one second for a word of knowledge I see someone with a knot on their brainstem in the back of their head. And it is I don’t know if it’s benign or it’s cancerous but it’s back there and you know it’s there and it’s forcing you to have debilitating headaches and migraines and God is dissolving it right now as you’re listening to this. I don’t know who you are but it’s the back of your head at the cranium level. It’s back there about the C4, C5 area of your neck.
Sid: Okay finish the story of the person with cancer that person is healed in Jesus Name go ahead.
Pat: Yeah, it was actually a 12 year old young man in Oklahoma City his mother brought him to the service he had been sent home to die he looked like walking death. I came off the platform and went to lay hands on him and just said “Jesus says you’re healed right now.” The little boy says I believe it and we prayed for him, he goes home. Two days later I get a Facebook message from the Momma. “I took my son back to the hospital today, the doctors say all the cancer is gone. I saw that young man about…”
Sid: Oh we’re out of time…
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth