Sid: On yesterday’s broadcast we were talking about this special bookmark. I love the title, talking to Trish Frost. And the bookmarks title is “I am Father God’s happy thought.” And Trish you’ve listed scriptures here and different categories and you said you like to just put it on your mirror remind you. But let me just read a few of the scriptures. “I am loved by my Father” and then I’ll read a few of the scriptures. Jeremiah 31:3 “Father loves me with an everlasting love. I have never not been loved by my Father.” And it’s talking about Father God. Let me read that again, some of you missed it. “Father loves me with an everlasting love. I have never not been loved by my Father.” Then John 3:16 “Father loves me so much that He gave His only Son to die for me so I might know his love.” You know Trish by the time someone reads this it won’t be that I am Father God’s happy thought they’re going to be filled with the love of God. I don’t think that you can get through this without feeling that way but so many people are wounded. Give me some… describe some symptoms of people that are wounded.
Trisha: Well let me step back just for a minute and pick up on what you just said. I feel like everybody is looking for a type of love Sid that’s unconditional. In other words, we feel loved by certain people in our life but you know “I’m loved if, or if I can do these things or if this happens or maybe somebody will love me.” And maybe we don’t realize that we’re loved unconditionally just the way we are right now if we never do another thing. I mean what if you were a paraplegic in a wheelchair and you couldn’t do anything to perform for love would you know that you’re still loved? And I feel like that’s where Father wants us all… I mean that whole happy thought card is all about us knowing and putting inside of us the scriptures. Scriptures after scripture, after scripture that changes our image of God being a cop in the sky, a God that you have to perform for to just a loving Father. Because most people have not…they didn’t grow up in a home with a loving father. And when you don’t grow up in a home with a loving father you tend to relate to Father God the same way that you relate to your earthly father. And when we do that it can cause woundedness and we’ve seen that when we’re wounded in or family of origin I see it all the time so many people that they just kind of wear shame or they just feel like nobody loves them so they build these walls of self-protection or…
Sid: And those walls people start rejecting them because of the walls that they have because they were rejected.
Trisha: Exactly, you reject you feel that. And then some more characteristics of woundedness people become possessive in their relationships with other people if they finally found somebody that loves them. This is what happened to Jack and I we just really began to suck the life right out of each other because we were so wounded. Finally someone showed us love and so we became possessive of each other and so we began to control and then we began to manipulate our relationship to get what we needed from the other person. And you know then people would try to tell us these things and we couldn’t receive correction. We couldn’t receive correction because we couldn’t trust, we could not trust the very people in our life that were trying to love us and trying to help nurture us and to help grow us up. So we found it very difficult to receive love from anybody and or we became so self-centered. You know I have a need for constant constant attention and if I didn’t get constant attention from Jack then I would manipulate, control, I would do whatever it took just for Jack to notice me, or Father God to notice me or my daddy to notice me. And sometimes we as parents we don’t have time for intimacy, we don’t have time to show people just how much they’re loved. And when we don’t have time for the very people that God’s put in our life to relate to and to nurture then it builds those walls of rejection.
Sid: So what does someone do that listening to you right now and is saying “That’s me but the walls are too big, what should I do, where should I start?” What would you say to them?
Trisha: I would tell them… begin to ask… the first thing I tell them to do is to pick up our book “Unbound Breaking Free of Life’s Entanglements.” Because there’s so much, people feel like there’s so much I can’t possibly do everything so…
Sid: And they’ve thrown in the towel, they’ve given up even trying because it’s too big.
Trisha: Well I tell people that whenever… I encounter people like this all the time I was one of those people. It’s one issue at a time, when I began to ask Father God to show me “Okay, what are the things inside of me that are wounding the very people that I love and I want to have an intimate relationship and it needs to begin with You Father God?” I for my life He began to show me one issue at a time. I feel like everything else is under grace until Father God shows us. And as we begin to okay… here’s a wound in my life and here’s the person that wounded me and I can’t relate to this person because I’m afraid of this person because I can’t trust you know so I closed my heart to love to the ability to trust this person. So all of a sudden okay now I understand this, so I take that person and I ask Father God “God,” (I hate to sound like I’m coming across with a plan and it’s really not a plan it’s a relation) “Father, I’m having conflict with this person in my life and I have wounded this person, I have hurt this person, I really want to relate and to love this person, I want to see them the way that you see them.” And so it starts by asking God to show you how He feels about that person. And then the second thing is “How have I wounded that person or how has that person wounded me? Am I willing to identify that behavior that stronghold and I’m willing to let go of it through forgiveness?” And somebody told me one time that “Forgiveness is actually take it and turn it around it’s the ability to give for a person, that’s how you know that you have true forgiveness for somebody because you never going forget what they did to you but you can let go of the pain that’s attached to the woundedness where they’ve hurt you.” So I tell people “First identify the wound, you know identify the behavior; then asked the Lord to show you how can I forgive this person.” And then I hear “Well you don’t understand what that person did to me I can’t forgive.” Well you know, yes you can. I really believe that you can forgive, it may take time and we’re not asking you to forget the pain, we’re just asking you to allow Father to forgive them through you.” You know Father, I can’t forgive them but You can.
Sid: You talk about doing one thing at a time as it’s revealed to you, could you tell me one real thing that you did in your relationship with your husband that broke something open.
Trisha: Oh gosh, have we got the rest of the day….(Laughing) no. Again, I grew up in home with a loving father and so it was so easy to relate to God as love and as a loving father and then I married this wounded man. And he’s so wounded, if I had known that Jack was as wounded as he was we probably wouldn’t have married. And so he was constantly distant, and unapproachable and he was not affectionate, he was emotionally unattached the very opposite of the environment that I grew up in. And so I began to just build walls of self-protection because I honestly didn’t know how to live life with Jack. I didn’t know how to do anything except perform for a place of value in his heart. And so after a while you get tired of performing and I just got so tired of having to feel like I had to do everything right to have a place of value. That I just began to build in my heart this stronghold of isolation, I really became cold toward Jack. I just didn’t have a place of value in my heart for him and so I knew that was wrong. I even actually made a plan to leave and divorce Jack this was right before the revelation of the Father’s love. I had made a plan, my brother was going to help me out to leave because I got so tired of him wounding us and wounding our family. And he’s the guy who’s going out and talking about strongholds, he had a revelation about strongholds at this time but he wasn’t living from that revelation. It wasn’t until the revelation of the Father’s love and the blessing that Jack’s behavior began to change. And so I had to forgive him and when he came home that night from that conference and asked me to forgive him you know we’re talking at this point 20 years of pain, 20 years of feeling neglected, 20 years of feeling like I was Leah in his life instead of Rachael. You know that Rachael was the one that Jack loved and in fact Rachael was the ministry or the sea or things like that or adventure. But you know I always felt like Leah the one that he just tolerated and so when he came home that night and he asked me to forgive him I couldn’t forgive him right in that moment I had to process through is this real or…
Sid: What did he ask you to forgive him of?
Trisha: For 20 years of just being cold and distant and emotionally unattached.
Sid: He knew this.
Trisha: Jack had the idea that wives served their husbands you know to the point of slavery. And you get very little in return and so that was wounding but you know I can’t blame Jack I allowed it to happen.
Sid: I’m sorry we’re out of time…
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Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth