Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah because he knows what’s on the other side. You see the problem with most Christians is most Christian I believe don’t even understand the dark side of the invisible world my guest does. His name is Michael Champagne I’m speaking to him at home at Palisade, Colorado. Michael you were raised in a nice Baptist church you even taught the Bible, but you started studying mythology in the 5th grade you didn’t see the good. Were you actually asking people before you got into the dark side “Where are the things I read about in the bible, the miracles?”
Michael: Absolutely that’s exactly what I was doing every chance I got every Baptist teacher that I could get my hands on our pastor everything. I was just like where is it at it’s here this is supposed to be the perfect book there’s supposed to be no flaws in it but the only flaw I see is that you ain’t living it. (Laughing)
Sid: Now how did you actually get into Satanism?
Michael: The only way I could say it was absolutely supernatural through studying. One day real late at night I was just I was just fed up with everything you know. Atheism sounded great to me because then I didn’t have to wait on either side.
Sid: Hm.
Michael: Just threw all my books down on the ground and I felt a presence come into my room. Now being a Christian I know the difference that when the presence comes into my room and it’s good or not but then I didn’t and this presence just walked up to me. And I heard a voice say “If you give me your hand I’ll show you the power that you want.” And I you know I symbolically stuck out my hand and I felt this burden…
Sid: Stop, stop was there a twinge of maybe I shouldn’t do this or just excitement and hunger when you did that?
Michael: Excitement and hunger.
Sid: Okay so you stuck out your hand then what happened?
Michael: And I felt like a not a lightning bolt I don’t know what it was like I got real dizzy and almost nauseous at first and then the presence was gone the dizziness was gone but there’s like a swell of power inside of me. And it was like for once I was seeing things like I believe now that demons see things. I was seeing the souls of people laid bare when I looked at them.
Sid: What do you mean by that?
Michael: I was seeing the inside of people like I was seeing…
Sid: Your’e seeing their secret sins.
Michael: There secret sins their secret thoughts I mean I was literally able to look inside and see what was really in there. And you know my thought at the time was “This is what I’ve been looking for my whole life.”
Sid: Out of curiosity when you would look into someone could you tell if they were a Christian or not?
Michael: Yeah I mean I knew the difference when I looked at somebody but you know with a Christian you know still, but I see into people but I see the power of God and I see the prophetic gift that I see into people. But then I would see their sins and whatever was going on in their life; now I just see if it’s a Christian I see lights almost a candle light depending on how bright they are.
Sid: Tell me about as you got into Satanism I’ve heard that they have covens what are they?
Michael: Covens are a group of witches or Satanists or whatever you know brand they want to label themselves they get together for the purpose of they had orgies, they cast spells on to certain… it’s much like a church service.
Sid: Now how much control did you have over a coven?
Michael: I was a leader in my home town of about 10 covens.
Sid: I read stories I don’t know if there true or not about sacrificing children is that true does that go on?
Michael: That goes on but in my covens it didn’t I’ve never sacrificed a small child or an animal. And the reason is most people that get into witchcraft when they get into that darker area the devil requires more of them you know if you want this much power you’re going to have to do this. With me I believe that that presence was… I don’t know if it was Satan himself but it was a higher up in this hierarchy it was a principality so I didn’t have to sacrifice an animal to get power or a person because I’d already given myself completely over to this demonic power.
Sid: Now you were actually teaching a Bible study while you were a Satanist?
Michael: Yes.
Sid: What was your objective?
Michael: My objective was to point out flaws.
Sid: To undermine people’s faith.
Michael: Right.
Sid: And were you successful at that?
Michael: Yeah I was very successful at that people were like “Well you know Michael you have a good point I mean if we’re supposed to be these good solid Christians and believe everything the Bible says and walk like Jesus walks then why can’t we have that power?” Then I would you know take the 2 or 3 at a time that had questions and I’d pull them aside and I would give them a demonstration of power.
Sid: And then would you get them into your group?
Michael: Sometimes sometimes they got freaked out and ran away but about 1 of 10 would stick around and we’d have that one.
Sid: What about these people that are on television that do almost séances where they communicate with supposedly a dead relative of people and talk to them and tell them things about themselves. Could you do that at that point?
Michael: Ah yeah I could but I strayed away from necromancy which is talking to the dead people.
Sid: Tell me what is really going on in this necromancing?
Michael: Okay.
Sid: Someone is sitting in a séance and supposedly their mother or their father has died is now talking to them through this channeler and they’re saying things that only that person knew how does that work?
Michael: Familiar spirits. The dead mother or the dead father or whatever relative it was had a demon. The channeler listens to the demon who knows the details of these people’s lives. The channeler then you know regurgitates the information to the other family members that’s alive. Now of course the information is correct because this person’s demon that’s talking to the channeler.
Sid: So what would you say to someone that says “I believe in reincarnation I’ll just keep coming back until I get better and better.” What would you tell them?
Michael: I’d tell them that there’s only your only have one chance at life and you know and I was very blessed by God in the outset because I didn’t die. But I would say to that person that “They need to step away and reevaluate their life because the only thing that they’re going to find is that all of these things that they believe is are demonic.”
Sid: But what about someone that says “Well I believe what you’re saying is true but I believe that there are many paths to God.” What would you say to them?
Michael: I would say that it’s a long journey to get to where I got and I’m just going to save them the time and say that “There’s only one path the Bible says that ‘There’s a path that seems right to man but the end is death.’” The Bible says that very clearly one God, one path, one door, one key.
Sid: Let me ask you something that is very popular today in gyms, it’s not a spiritual thing it’s an exercise thing it’s relaxing it’s good for blood pressure, it’s good to meditate it’s called Yoga. They don’t go into the spiritual side they just do the exercises. Is there anything wrong with a Christian doing that?
Michael: I would strongly advise against it the word Yoga literally means spirit binding. When you do those weird exercises you are literally aligning yourself with a spirit that binds to you and that connects to you.
Sid: Michael being as deep as you were into these things what was the first thing that gave you… moved you into the direction of becoming a believer in Jesus?
Michael: The first thing… I don’t know I mean to be real honest I thought about this there’s not like a event. I was in LA I was living on the streets doing what I’ve always done in witchcraft and…
Sid: Wait a second if you got all of this power what are you doing living on the streets?
Michael: Because I was a demonic missionary I traveled from hot spot to hot spot looking for teenagers.
Sid: Okay, and you went 7 years ago you went to a place that I’d heard of in Los Angeles called the Dream Center why did you go there?
Michael: Well for one they had something that I didn’t have at the time food. (Laughing)
Sid: Come on now you alright called yourself a missionary on the streets for Satan, doesn’t Satan take care of his missionaries?
Michael: Yeah I mean there.
Sid: But whoa whoa whoa whoa you were going there for food?
Michael: Yeah I was going there.
Sid: Well Michael you can’t have it both ways it wasn’t so good was it to have to go there for food?
Michael: No it wasn’t my most pleasant act.
Sid: (Laughing) Okay so you went there for food what happened?
Michael: I decided to stay because I saw some potential victims. You know at this discipleship home and I was thinking that if I stayed around long enough then I can… I can win these people over and they can come with me. And one day the leader of the house said that “If you stay here you got to throw away your Tarot Cards.” I had Tarot cards at the times that I didn’t leave them. I slept with them I…
Sid: What’s wrong with Ouija boards and Tarot cards?
Michael: Ouija boards are they’re just amplified antennas they pickup on spirits. And when you know there’s a reason why they look like arrows. The pointer on a Ouija board looks like an arrow because it is it is, it points spirits in different directions. And when a spirit answers a Ouija board he’s also like him knocking at the door.
Sid: So can he come into the person using the Ouija board?
Michael: He can come into person, it can come into the room and it can come into the house it all depends.
Sid: My goodness sounds like every Ouija board in America ought to be burned we’re out of time will pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth