Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Peter Gammons I’m speaking to him at his office at Orlando, Florida where’s Pastor of Cathedral of Faith and we’re finding out some fascinating things about this man of God. For instance, he was in Brazil and 45 deaf and dumb people were instantly healed during the week of meetings that he had. Forty-five deaf and dumb I mean this is unbelievable outside of God says “All things are possible to those that believe.” There are people that are listening to us right now Peter that have never seen a miracle. And I’m believing that before this week is through that you’re going to pray a prayer of faith and that people all over the world are going to be receiving miracles. On yesterdays broadcast you’re a young 17 year old, you went into a church and a man laid hands on you that was around Kathryn Kuhlman just before she died and Kathryn Kuhlman passed her anointing on to this man, what was his name “
Peter: His name was Ed Goev.
Sid: And what did he say to you and what did he do?
Peter: Well as I said we were in the middle of this meeting and when I was singing to God “To God the Glory for great things He’s done.” And suddenly he said “Stop.” And then he pointed at me and said “You boy come here!” I was terrified I thought I must have done something wrong and God had told him because I never heard of prophecy being positive. I had heard people talk about how God had exposed sins through prophecy and I couldn’t think of anything I had done so I thought “Oh Lord, what have I done?” And I came forward and he laid hands on me and he prophesied and said “You will take My healing message and My healing Power to the Lord.” And as I mentioned on yesterday’s program it was the same message that this woman had come up to me and said “Peter” and told me this message as I arrived at the meeting. And…
Sid: But what was going on inside of you when he laid hands on you?
Peter: Oh I just went down in the power of the Holy Spirit I kept trying to get up and going down again.
Sid: Has this ever happened to you before?
Peter: No it was almost unknown in Britain it had not been happening before and suddenly I was overwhelmed by this presence of God. People asked “What it’s like?” It’s like resting in the presence of God it’s the closest thing to heaven on earth. You see our bodies were designed for earth so when heaven touches earth sometimes it’s more than our bodies can contain and we’re just overwhelmed by the presence of God. I don’t use the term “Slain in the Spirit” which sounds an aggressive thing it’s a resting in the Spirit. What happened was that and I got up and went back to my seat at the end of the service this rather large gentleman came up to me and said “Would you pray for me to be filled with the Spirit?” So I’m looking for the preacher because I’m thinking “Well you know I can’t pray for him who am I you know.” And he said “Not him you you’re the one who got the prophecy.” So I touched him and as I touched him to pray for him he went down with the power of the Holy Spirit. And of course nobody was there to catch him and because he was so big he just knocked everybody flying it was like (imitating sound of explosion) had explosion everybody turned around and seeing me continuing my prayer with this big man laying on the floor. And that’s how God through me out into the ministry through that very day. I literally that day had people come up and say “Would you come and preach to our youth group, would you come and preach in our church? Would you come and minister at our home fellowship? (Laughing) the funniest one was do you have any Sunday’s free this year? And I said yeah “Just 52 of them.”
Sid: (Laughing)
Peter: And that’s how God through me out into ministry through that very night in that very empowering with the Holy Spirit. And as I said this man received the anointing through Kathryn Kuhlman just before she died she prayed for him to receive the anointing.
Sid: Now at what point did miracles start when you began praying for people after that?
Peter: I think it was a meeting that followed on from that event I was invited to a home fellow in a place called Royston near Cambridge which was near where my home was. And there was a man there who had crutches and he was deaf. And in the service I prayed for him and he instantly heard in the services and I believe that that was the first notable miracle. I had prayed after this with friends and their stomach aches had been healed but nothing that’s significant but he didn’t walk. Then a week later they telephoned me and they said “You know that man you prayed for he’s thrown away his crutches and bought a bicycle.” And so that was really when miracles began to happen after that event. Another key event happened I ended up in full time ministry because so many invitations that were coming in as an evangelist and I read a book called “Healing on Mass” by Dr. TL Osborn and that transformed my life. Dr. Osborn became one of my closest friends later on but that’s a whole other story. But I read this book how he wasn’t just praying 1 for 1 for people like I had done in the past but that he would pray for a crowd of 1000’s of people then they’d all get healed at the same time in his crusades. And I’d been invited for 2 events one was a crusade in a little town called Huntingdon in England. We call it a small city in America and I also was invited for a crusade in Africa in Tanzania in a place called Korogwe. And so I was so excited and the local newspapers in Huntington called me and said “What is going to happen in your crusade in Huntington?” Thinking I was going to talk about nice little sermons I was going to preach. And I was just so on fire after reading this book by TL Osborn I said “The blind are going to see, the death are going to hear, the cripple are going to walk.” And when I said that the woman said “Oh, oh and of course never even reported what I reported that I totally blew her away with such wild claims at that time what was going to happen. And in reality it didn’t happen because they never came to the meeting. There was only about 10 or 20 people attended the service at that time. Then I went on to Africa I went on to Tanzania went with a missionary who was returning to he was moving back to England and he didn’t want to go alone so he took me with him and said he’d arrange for meetings if I’d go. And we went there and I held this meeting and as I arrived there in my freshly pressed safari suit that my mother had bought me I stood up to speak and there were Muslims in their distinctive Muslim gowns and all of these sick people in a crowd of people there. And I suddenly had a panic attack, I thought “Why should they believe me this little white guy turns up from England telling them they’ve got to leave their other religions and got to follow Jesus why should they believe me?” This doubt came into my heart and suddenly the answer rose up inside of me “Because it’s true because Jesus really is who the Bible says He is because He’s alive.” And without even thinking about it I said these words, “Mohammed is dead, Buddha is dead but Jesus is alive.” But it wasn’t politically correct but it’s what came out of my mouth. I said then “Jesus is alive,” and then I said “And He’s going to prove it by healing the sick.” I said “All of those that are with someone that is blind…all those that are blind come forward.” And what happened was the local blind…
Sid: You really stuck your neck out I mean “What if no one got healed?”
Peter: Well it’s just what happened I just said it.
Sid: (Laughing)
Peter: I didn’t even think about what I was saying…
Sid: It was a mind bypass (Laughing.)
Peter: Yeah it was words of faith just rose up inside of me. And that’s been my convection why we need miracles in evangelism, why evangelism without miracles will never reach the world.
Sid: Well what happened at this meeting?
Peter: Well there was this blind man that was walking by behind. Now most of see more people in a day than these tribal people see in a lifetime, they live and marry and die in the same community. And you know it’s not a case that “I need to pray about who I’m going to marry there is probably only 5 choices so you go for the best of the 5 in these tribal communities. And so everybody knew this man and he’s been blind from birth and during his lifetime he’d heard about the mountains that were behind me there was a backdrop of beautiful mountains where I was preaching. And they grabbed him and brought him forward and when they brought him forward everyone else stop coming forward for prayer and it was like “Well if it doesn’t work for him we’re not going to bother.” And I prayed for him and I commanded his eyes to be opened in the name of Jesus and that’s why I’ve written this book that you’ll be mentioning later “The Powerful Name of Jesus.” Because it’s in Jesus name that miracles happen that’s where the power is not in me. And I command his eyes to be open in Jesus name and he began to jump up and down and shouted “I can see, I can see.” And then he began to describe the mountains which he’d only herd before but now he saw how beautiful they were. When that happened they started bringing other blind people forward. They brought forward this little lady and she had a veil over her face and when she took it back all there was was white eyeballs there was no color there at all she was totally blind. And as I prayed for her suddenly I saw color slowly begin to come and they began to get darker and darker until she had the most beautiful turquoise eyes and she could see. And then I said “I want those that are deaf to come forward and nobody came and I said “I know you’re here.” And somebody said to me “They can’t hear you that’s why they’re not coming forward.”
Sid: (Laughing)
Peter: And then I said “I want those that are with somebody who’s deaf to bring them forward” and they brought them forward and I prayed for them. And then I said “Those that are crippled and lame I want someone to bring them forward” and then the people carried them forward. And this is the honest truth at the end of that crusade I went to the pastors and organizers and leaders and I said “Go out among the people and see if you can find anybody that has not been completely and instantly healed.” And they came back and they said “We could not find one person who had not been completely and instantly healed.” And so that’s how our ministry began and we’ve had nearly 30 years of preaching the gospel around the world. And to me I am more shocked when people are not healed then when they are healed. Somebody says “What’s it like when a deaf person hears or a blind person sees?” I’m more shocked if they’re not healed because I’ve just got used to miracles a daily part of life. In this past almost 30 years if I didn’t see an outstanding miracle every day I would not feel that I could go to bed at night I’m used to it. And I believe that that’s one of the things and one of the reasons why God sent us to America to minister just 2 or 3 years ago.
Sid: Peter I can understand that however there are many anointed men and women of God in America and we’re not seeing what you’re describing how come?
Peter: I think that the Body of Christ the Church needs to recognize that there are different gifts and everybody can’t do everything and I believe that this ministry that God’s given us has a place. And there are some people that has an anointing to get people out of wheelchairs, there are some people that have anointing for that and it’s only as the church acknowledges and utilizes the gifts that God’s given that God’s purpose will be fulfilled.
Sid: Peter we’re out of time right now…
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