SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guests, Ken and Jeanne Harrington, Jeanne, you had, was it a vision or a dream of a tsunami coming to the United States of America and Canada, but it wasn’t a tsunami in the natural. It was a tsunami in the supernatural. Explain, Jeanne.
JEANNE: It was a dream about a big wave of God that’s going to move across Canada and the United States, and many people are gonna come to know God in a powerful way. I was, all of a sudden plopped into the ocean. And all of a sudden I’m on a surfboard, and I look behind me, and first of all, I’m afraid because I don’t surf, and this huge wave comes up and it picks me up and it takes me right to the shore. Then it picks me up again, plops on the wave again, but people are mocking and laughing, and I’m turned backwards, but I spin around the right way and go right to the end. And it happens again and again. And I really feel that it’s about God’s move that’s coming, a powerful move that we’re not gonna make mistakes on. It doesn’t matter what people think about us. But there’s gonna be a move that’s gonna come in and release the glory of God for the salvation of many.
SID: And you know what? The thing that I love about this vision that Jeanne had is that it wasn’t the superstar. Explain.
JEANNE: No. I’m just an ordinary person and my husband was in the dream, and another fellow, and we’re just ordinary people. But God’s gonna use everyone, everyone in the end. He wants to have all of us reach out to our neighbors, to our loved ones to tell about God.
SID: Now Ken, tell me about the supernatural visitation you had where for 45 minutes you were downloaded the information of your book, “Shift: Moving from the Natural to the Supernatural”.
KEN: I was working in a construction camp in northern Alberta and about 10:00 at night I was just ready to go to bed, and suddenly the Holy Spirit just started to bring words up into my mind, and I got up real quick, and I started to write it down. And I realized as I was writing I was actually getting chapters of a book. And I get the chapter. I get the outline. I got everything I needed in 45 minutes. I was writing as fast as I could just to keep up. And I had never written a book before. I wasn’t ready to be published. I didn’t understand what was going on, but I knew I had to finish this off. So once the download was done then I just flashed it out and put it to work.
SID: I believe the revelation that you had is so important. I have to tell you, I read a lot of books. I interview a lot of people. But I believe because of the revelation that Jeanne had of the tsunami coming and that God wants to use everyone in the supernatural is why you got this revelation. What is the passion of this revelation? What is God trying to show people?
KEN: He wants us to shift the way we think. We’ve been so used to functioning in the natural realm, and our reasoning has been molded by the events in our life. But what God wants to do is, Sid, there’s another realm, there’s another way of thinking, and the emphasis of the book is to shift that thinking so that we actually step into see things the way God sees things, and that will allow us then to do the things that God does.
SID: Well you see, in the 1940s there was a great move of God’s spirit in these tent revivalists with great miracles were all over. But most of them failed. They had the miracles, but they hadn’t developed the character. They hadn’t developed the servanthood. And I don’t hear enough teaching about this any more. This is what I’m getting. I have to tell you, I’m getting under such conviction when I start to feel angry over something I have to check myself out. What is the source of that anger? Is it that little pimple that I’m looking at or is there something deeper? Like for instance, the time that you got upset with Jeanne because she wanted you to, she’s what 5-foot, what?
JEANNE: One or two.
SID: Five-foot-one or two, and you can’t reach the top shelf.
JEANNE: No.
SID: So what’s wrong with asking your husband to reach the top shelf?
KEN: What was wrong was I had a wrong thinking in my brain. We end up forming judgments that really lock us into a thinking pattern. It’s like a rut in the road, and you drop a tire in the rut, and you actually can’t get out of that rut if it’s deep enough. Well our thought patterns are like that, too. We develop ruts in neural pathways, however you want to say it. And I had developed one over the years that came to fruit in my wife. It actually started with my mother. And when I found myself reacting and I’m mumbling under my voice, you know, kind of, “Leave me alone” to her when she asked me to reach something, I thought, man, there’s something wrong there. And so we started to pray and say, “God, show us what was wrong.” And He brought me back to my mother at the same age that Jeanne was. I saw myself, I was about 15 or 16, and I watched my father sit down after coming home after a long day in the fields, working on the farm, and she was trying to be relational, get him to interact with him, and he was sort of an isolated type of gentleman, and was watching TV, kind of half falling asleep, and she’d call him, “Bob, come up and get this.” And he’d get up and go do it. Then he’d sit down and five minutes later, “Bob, come and get this.” And I remember the thought coming into my head, “Leave him alone. You’re gonna kill him.” Well it’s crazy, but most of our judgments actually are kind of goofy.
SID: And that’s what I found out, that they really, you see here’s the thing. It’s these judgments are not in line with the spiritual truth book, the Bible. And when they’re not in line they’re crazy. At most, judgments are crazy.
KEN: Yeah. And so this judgment I had, well men are suppose to be the stronger one. The women are the weaker vessel, the Bible says. But women outlive us ten years. Well what happens? They get us to do all the work and it kills us. And that judgment then manifested itself when Jeanne reached my mom’s age and when I made it, it only took a matter of a day or two of once we identified it, praying it, and all that went away.
SID: Jeanne, what difference did it make to you when he changed?
JEANNE: It made an immediate difference because he then started opening the car doors, taking my coat, reaching for things as soon as he broke it. But he had to repent of his sin.
SID: That’s what’s so amazing. You are a prototype of someone that has had experience after experience of changing your thinking. And why is the thinking important to be changed? Because you need a new lion skin to contain the glory of the tsunami wave of God’s spirit. Now God showed you your own heart. Here you are a believer in the Messiah and you love God with all of your heart, but what did He show you about your heart?
JEANNE: My heart’s deceitfully wicked. At one time God started to reveal my heart to me and I cried for two weeks straight. And I taught Sunday school. I was active in church. I love God with all my heart. And one day I cried for six hours straight when I saw how deceitfully wicked my heart was.
SID: Ken, when she was crying, could you understand it when she said, “My heart is deceitful”?
KEN: No, not so much at that time. But she reminded me that your turn will come, and it did.
SID: I’m gonna tell you something. God is preparing us and I’m so excited. He’s preparing us for visitations of angels. We’ll talk about an angel. Don’t go away. A real angel.
