SID: Karen, you had a dream no mother should have. You saw your son dead. You knew that God speaks to you very, very clearly in dreams.
KAREN: Well actually, my husband and I both had the same dream on the same night. And we went out to a track to walk the next morning and began to share with each other the dream that we had, and both of us dreamed that our son was killed by a car accident. And at the time, he was about 17 years old and we knew he [drank?], and he had a sports car, and everything. And so we were immediately began to pray and begin to pray protection over him, and begin to pray that God would keep his hand on him, that he would guide him, and lead him, and prepare the path for him. But over the next two weeks, we began to realize that it was not a physical death at all, that the enemy had been attacking him, had been drawing him away into areas of life that he should not have been in. Our son actually came to us and began to tell us that he had been doing things that he shouldn’t do. And in the moment that he began to share with us that, God took us back to that dream and showed us that he had been preparing us for this battle that we were about to go into, and just pushing through and bringing Nate back into a place of relationship with God. Because Nate had come to a place of dehydration in his life where he had stopped pursuing God and started being pulled away by the things of the world that the world was enticing him with. So we began to have to go in and begin to reestablish those relationships in our home, and reestablish basically re-digging the wells that had been dug for our family, and in essence, pushing through the dirt, pushing through the junk, pushing through the things that the enemy had slowly just seeped into our lives. And so spiritually in a sense, we had to grab our spiritual shovels and start digging out the garbage that had been allowed to come into our home and into our family.
SID: You know, what she’s saying, she’s saying to you it’s time to take back what belongs to you. Now, you saw the future of your son and it didn’t look good.
KAREN: That’s right.
SID: What happened with him after you took him back?
KAREN: Yes, because he began to change. His life began to change. He came to us and he told us he wanted to pursue God’s call in his life and he wanted to do whatever God wanted him to do. We were able, by going into the presence of God, by leading him into the presence of God, to get him back to a place where he could hear God’s voice, where he could sense what God wanted to do. And now, our son is 25 years old, married, out in California. He’s leading an amazing youth group, leading thousands of young people into the presence of God.
SID: You know, you like to say God will not leave you. He will find you.
KAREN: That’s right.
SID: Isn’t that good news? He’s not going to leave you where you’re at.
KAREN: Yes. And that’s true because no matter what you’re going through, and I just want to say to whoever is watching today, no matter what you walk through, no matter what you’re facing, no matter what you’ve done in your past, no matter what’s been done to you, whether you’ve been hurt or whether you’ve been abused, it doesn’t matter. God knows where you’re at and he wants to meet you there in that place. The good thing about it is that when God meets you there he’ll never leave you there. He takes you on a journey to freedom. Just like there was a Samaritan woman in the Bible and she went to a well, and this woman had five husbands. The Bible tells us the story of her life. And so she was living with the sixth man. But the cool thing was on this particular day, she would meet the seventh man in her life.
SID: I love that.
KAREN: And the number seven means spiritual perfection and resurrection. So while her grace had run out and she tried to do it on her own strength, she had come to the end of herself, which is where you find God, in that moment God said, “You know what, I’m going to meet you here because you’re worth my time, because I care about you and I’m going to resurrect those things in your life that you thought were dead.”
SID: You know, you talk about, it ain’t over. Talk to someone right now and tell this person it ain’t over.
KAREN: Well I just want you to know you may be at the end today. You may be in a place and you may be saying to us today, you don’t know where I’m at. You don’t know where I’ve been. You don’t know what I’ve done in my past. But you know what the cool thing about that is, that God does know where you’re at and he does know what you’ve walked through, and he knows what you’ve been through, and he knows what’s been done to you. But he says to you today, it’s not over. He has the final say. He has the final word. He knows the end from the beginning, and he has already won the battle. And so if you’re tired and weary, and dehydrated today, I challenge you to just look up, to open your eyes, to open your arms and to receive the free gift of living water that he has, and that living water is his presence that he wants to give you in your life.
SID: Now, you talked about your son, and for the next some eight years you wanted to have another child, and you thought that part of your life, I don’t know, I’m not going to have another child. And then I believe it was, was it a dream about China?
KAREN: It was a vision.
SID: A vision. Tell me.
KAREN: God gave me a vision because after eight years, after our son was born, he was just such a blessing to us. But I knew that I had this longing to have another child that God had promised me. I felt like in my spirit that he had promised me that I would have another child. And so one day I had dropped my son off at school and I was just at the end. I was done. I was discouraged. I was depressed basically and I was thinking it’s all about me. And so I remember driving home from dropping him off at school, and I remember pulling into the garage, and I said, “God, I give up. I give up. I can’t do this anymore. I don’t know why I can’t have another child. I don’t know why you won’t allow me to do this.” And so in that moment when I said I give up, I heard his voice audibly, in the car. I had not even gotten out of the car in the garage, and all I heard him say was, “Good.” And in that moment it woke me up, and he said, “Because now maybe I can do a miracle in your life.” I heard him say to me, “Karen, if you were in an ocean, because right now you feel like you’re sinking, you feel like you’re in an abyss of despair.” And he said, “If you were in the ocean and you were sinking, what would keep you alive right in this moment?” And I said, “God, I don’t know if I would want to stay alive. I’m so discouraged.” But then in that picture that he gave me, he showed me that my son was in the middle of the ocean with me and I said, “I would stay alive to keep him alive.” And he said, “Exactly. There are times in your life where I’m going to be right there to pull you out of the sea, but there’s other times in your life where you’re out in the ocean and your purpose is to rescue someone else, not to think about yourself.” And he said, “In your despair, rescue.” And in that moment, the map of China came up in front of me, and there was a star in the middle of China, and he said, “There is your miracle. There is your daughter. Go get her and bring her home to make your family complete.”
SID: When we come back I’m going to talk to you about how brave and how much courage you really have. You’re just looking at it wrong. We’ll be right back.
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