SID: Rick Joyner, you are known as a man that has prophetic dreams. You had a dream that resulted in five million books distributed worldwide. It was called The Final Quest. But you had a recent dream that you told me how important this was. Explain.
RICK: Well, it was so dramatic and so important, the content and message the dream I felt like in some ways my whole life had been a preparation for receiving this dream, for understanding it, and for being able to convey it.
SID: In a sense, what was the essence of this dream?
RICK: Well, there were some really important factors in it, but one of them was I was able to see our US history from heaven’s perspective. It was very different. Radically different. We say there’s fake news. Well, there’s fake history out there too that has been I think colored by prejudices, by political opinions and things like that, but this was our US history from heaven’s perspective but also a revelation of God’s purpose for our country.
SID: Tell me a little bit about the dream.
RICK: Well, to start off, I saw what I called dread champions. These were champions, spiritual champions that are being raised up to go after and pull down strongholds. Major strongholds. I was standing in line with these people thinking I’m going to get sent out and an angel comes up to me and said, “Come with me. You’ve got a different assignment.” So, I followed him and I went and I was taken from this big device. It’s hard to describe, but on this, on the face of it, I could see our US history from heaven’s perspective. As I move from left to right just walking along in front of this, time progressed through the Revolutionary War, through the Civil War.
RICK: And I knew that if I went all the way to the end of this, I would be able to see our own times from heaven’s perspective. So, I saw things as I was walking in front of it, but my goal was I want to see where we are now and how are we seen now from heaven and heaven’s perspective.
SID: You actually saw the future in this dream. That’s pretty exciting.
RICK: Well, I did see some things. Yeah.
SID: Why do you believe God has entrusted you with such powerful end time dreams?
RICK: Well, almost every one of them it seems is going to be really controversial. When he gives me something, I’m not trying to build a ministry. I don’t care if it affects that. I don’t care. I want to be sure I’m conveying the message accurately and I’ve decided I don’t care what the message is, I’m going to give it. I asked him a number of times why did he always give me these real hard words. That’s what he said. He said I was mean enough to actually share them.
SID: But you said another thing that was interesting. There are going to be some deadly to the devil that is, intercessors that are raised up and you were not in that particular line. So, in other words, that leads me to believe there are lots of roles in this end time army.
RICK: Oh absolutely. Absolutely. Now, I think these champions if you will, I think they’re the ones that Jude talked about or that are spoken of in the book of Jude quoting the book of Enoch. They spoke about the Lord coming with these mighty ones. These are mighty ones. They walk in extraordinary authority. I believe we’re going to see a number, thousands actually who are going to be doing the same things Jesus did. They’re going to be walking in authority I don’t think we’ve seen since the first century. They’re champions, but each one of them had a specific enemy to go after. They were also told not to just defeat this enemy, they were told to destroy it.
SID: Give me an example of some of these enemies.
RICK: I think racism, bigotry. I think the whole issue of abortion, of child trafficking. There are things like that that are many of these things were ultimate issues in our times. But it’s what at the root of them. The racism is built upon two of the ultimate evils of the human heart. Fear or pride. But pride leads to the fall and even God will resist the proud but gives his grace to the humble. But that’s one of the things, the important issues I think I saw in this dream of the way God or heaven saw our history and our purpose. For example, we thought we won the Revolutionary War and we won some things. But from heaven’s perspective, the main purpose of that war was not getting independence from Britain, but it was to establish a place where it was truly believed, demonstrated and lived that all men are created equal and there is liberty and justice for all. Not just some.
SID: You’re talking about even in our constitution that’s the way it was designed, but it certainly didn’t play out.
RICK: No. The constitution didn’t work for some races. It really turned out to be liberty and justice for some and what I was shown was if the purpose, if we had gotten on track to fulfill our purpose after the Revolutionary War, there would have been no need for a Civil War because there would not have been slavery, could not have been slavery in our country. There could not actually even be discrimination here. So, we would have not needed the Civil War. If the Civil War had gone on to some of the ultimate purposes in accomplishing those, there would have been no need for a Civil Rights movement. We wouldn’t have a lot of discord that is rising again today because these ultimate issues have not been faced and destroyed. Not just defeated, but destroyed.
SID: Is that why we’re going to have this second Revolutionary – Civil War?
RICK: I think that is one of the main reasons. There are others, but that is one of them. A key word that I saw of our purpose was liberty. We were known as the American republic, but the main thing was liberty and then and justice for all. Underline all. But –
SID: You know what I find interesting? This current millennial generation, their major word is we want justice, but the way they’re going about it, even though they don’t know it because they don’t have the gray hair like we do, it’s not going to work.
RICK: Yeah and it’s not justice.
SID: Well, I’ll tell you what, that’s another subject. The second part of the dream showed where we are now. It showed the Second Revolutionary – Civil War was inevitable, right? And successful. What does this really mean? Stay with us.
