SID: Then you began operating under an open heaven and the seer gifts started being activated. Tell me about that.
JUSTIN: That’s right. Yeah. So almost immediately I began having dreams. I was trying to read through the Bible as quickly as possible. And I went to bed one night and asked God, “Why don’t you speak to people in dreams anymore?” Because I had just read about Joseph and being raised in a denomination… Actually both of my grandfathers were pastors in a denomination. But I was taught that God didn’t do that anymore. Well, this sincere question in my heart to God before I went to sleep, he heard it and he answered and I received a prophetic dream that night that led to someone that I had known for years to get born again and delivered and restored to their family all because I had a prophetic dream that God used to really bring this person into the kingdom. And from that point forward dreams and shortly thereafter visions became very commonplace.
SID: However, you got really embroiled into ministry and you went through what the world calls burnout. And for seven years it was like the open heaven closed, the gifting stopped. But then you got a hold of two major revelations that not only changed his life, but I promise you, if you will do what he did with these revelations, it’ll change your life. The first person was someone, a prophet who’s now in heaven permanently. His name is Bob Jones, and he provoked me to so much jealousy because every time I’m talking to him, he says, “Well, I was just spent… About an hour ago I was up in heaven. I did this. I did that.” And I’m thinking, what’s a matter with me? I’ve never been up in heaven. You’re doing it all the time. But what did he, major thing he taught you, key?
JUSTIN: Yes. He taught me that waiting on the Lord, waiting in his presence, not reading the Bible even, not even praying, although those things are important, but waiting in God’s presence and discerning the presence of God, waiting for him to lead us into an encounter that that was the doorway. And Bob actually said that many of his most dramatic encounters with God began with something subtle. It began with him waiting in the presence of God and maybe seeing a slight vision or maybe some prompting of the spirit. And it was whenever he leaned in or pressed into what he was seeing, that it became a major encounter even to the point of being caught up into the throne room.
I think I’ve been convinced largely because of scriptures like Hebrews chapter four that we have an invitation to come boldly before the throne of grace. Or a Revelation chapter four that there’s a door standing open in heaven. That was actually Bob’s favorite verse. And there’s a voice saying, “Come up here and I will show you things which are to come.” Hebrews chapter 10 tells us that Jesus has made a new and living way for us to enter behind the veil into the holiest place. And this is a privilege that used to be only for the high priest once a year, but now God has given every believer an invitation to come into his very manifest presence behind the veil into the very throne room. Yeah.
SID: But then you read another person who is now in heaven. She lived over 300 years ago and she took the revelation for you even further. What did she teach you?
JUSTIN: Yes. So Madam Guyon, a 17th century contemplative, lived a life of deep experiential prayer, and she wrote really systematic steps to entering into the presence of God. Some of her principles, such as she would say that prayer is nothing more than the application of the heart to God and the internal exercise of love. In other words, prayer is not primarily a prayer of the head, it’s primarily a prayer of the heart. There were other things that she taught as well related to the word of God and allowing prayer, reading the scriptures to be a real catalyst to a high place of encounter.
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