Sid: We want everyone everywhere to know how great our God is. We want everyone everywhere to be under the blood of the Messiah. And be righteous and have intimacy with God and the Messiah’s name in Hebrew, Yeshua and in English, Jesus. My guest, Joel Richardson takes a subject that most Christians will readily admit they don’t understand the end times, they don’t understand the book of Revelation and so they put the whole thing on a shelf. But my guest has been raised up by God to make the complex mysteries simple and Joel Richardson because tied in with the end times is the religion of Islam, because there have been numerous death threats and I can’t even tell people where you live. Is that correct?
Joel: Yeah, I’m okay with the Midwest, but beyond that people ask me where I am I say I’m in my secret bunker.
Sid: Okay, let’s get right to the meat because I am fascinated with the information you have on our president, on our former presidents, on especially Jimmy Carter, but let’s get to something even more important than that…Tell me a bit, because I’ve never heard of this before this treaty that throughout Muslim history shows a pattern of what went on but will go on if the United State. And you know I can’t understand how you can know this and our state department and our administration doesn’t know this, because if they knew what you are about ready to state publically on the air, they would never be trying to orchestrate peace agreements with the Palestinians in Israel, never, never, never. So tell me a bit about this treaty.
Joel: Sure. Well the treaty that you mentioned is called the treaty of Whotheybe-a.
Sid: I’m glad you said it and not me. Ha ha Say it again.
Joel: I’m not a fluent Arabic speaker, buts that’s a fairly good pronunciation, the treaty of Whotheybe-a. And really what I often say is that if you want to have a basic understanding of Middle Eastern politics and the Palestine issue, you have to understand the treaty of Whotheybe-a and its role in Islamic history. Now unfortunately the present administration, Obama administration has said that the present issue in the world with terrorism is not related to Islam it is merely oh, you know a reaction against imperialism and all these different sort of things. But again, unless we get into Islamic theology, the religious doctrines of Islam we’re going to miss this basic fact and it’s effect on the Middle East and not only middles eastern politics but biblical prophecy. So as the story goes, Mohammed again the founder of Islam, I would say the false prophet and the founder of Islam, he had been kicked out of Mecca and he and his very small band of Muslim followers had moved to a nearby city of Yathreebe but now a days if called Medina and Mecca was the religious capital of the region and every year the surrounding pagans would all make pilgrimage to Mecca to worship their various gods at Secomba that’s the cube in the middle of Mecca and so Mohammed told his…
Sid: Excuse me, what do you mean the cube in the middle of Mecca?
Joel: Well, the Koba is the shrine and the Koba in Arabic, simply means the cube. So it’s a black cube that is a building and that is literally the shrine that throughout the earth everyday; you know 1.7 billion Muslims bow five times a day toward Mecca and they pray toward the Koba and that this shrine that sits in the middle of the haroma, al cherif that’s what they call the noble sanctuary in the middle of Mecca. And it use to be during the time of Mohammad it was filled with idols, so this was a shrine that was pre-existent to the religion of Islam. But so Mohammad told his small band, roughly a thousand people that they were going to make pilgrimage that year and so they were trying to fulfill or self fulfill this prophecy; and as they were approaching Mecca they came to a place called the spring of Whotheybe-a. Now the most powerful tribe of the region were the Corachees and so the corachees stopped Mohammed and his men at the spring and really kind of abused Mohammed in front of his men; mocked him quite a bit and he said, that the Corachees you are not going to make pilgrimage absolutely not. They said, but we will make a treaty with you, and this treaty has come down in Islamic history as the treaty Whotheybe-a. Now what they said is they said “From now on if any of your men want to leave Islam you have to let them go, but any of our people want to convert to your group and become Muslims you have to send them back. So it was clearly a treaty slanted against Mohammad and they said for the next ten years we will have a cease fire; you will not attack us, we will not attack you; next year we will let you come back and make pilgrimage. So the next day all of Mohammed men were really upset because, of course he was looking like a false prophet. But what Mohammed did was he did what all false prophets do, is when he misses the target he walks over to his arrow and paints a new target around the arrow and says hey look, bull’s eye. And so what he said was he said that that night, Allah had given him a revelation and he said that this was a great victory because what he realized was the most powerful tribe in the region had agreed not to attack them. And the end result was over the next two years Mohammed began attacking a series of Jewish villages plundering and raiding and pillaging and massacring these villages. And what he told the people is that if you will join in these raids from now on, Allah has revealed it, that if you join the raid you get your percentage of the plunder and the booty and the women and slaves and so forth within two years as Mohammed became a pirate of the desert he went from a thousand men to roughly ten thousand. Well now, Mohammed the Muslims were larger than the Creakiest; he broke the treaty of Whotheybe-a; he came and invaded Mecca and concurred the Okarche’s and he was now the undisputed leader of the inter region. So now what we need to realize is that Muslims today believe that Mohammed is the perfect man and he is a perfect example for all Muslims to follow. So today Muslim politicians and leaders they look to the example of making a treaty when you are weak in order to gain strength, in order to reload, in order to gain strategic dominance over your opponents. They look to that as an example.
Sid: Use a modern day example of say maybe, Yasser Arafat. How did he use that treaty?
Joel: Sure, well this is going back to the ‘80s and Arafat had made a significant treaty with Israel, many from the Israeli left were very excited about this and they were talking about peace and moving toward peace and so forth. Well, then what happened, Arafat was speaking before a group in South Africa and he was speaking in Arabic and to the people of Arabic he said, listen, he said as far as I’m concerned this treaty is just like the treaty that Mohammed himself engaged in with the Corachees and he said this is no more, and no less than the treaty Whotheybe-a and we will use this treaty in our onward march to Jerusalem. Well, when the left from Israel heard this they realized what Arafat didn’t know was that someone was recording this speech and when it was translated he was caught. He was caught openly admitting that he had not literally entered into any desire for peace.
Sid: Alright, fast forward President Obama and the State of Israel and the Palestinians what is going on with the Palestinians say we want a small portion of the land for ourselves? Do you believe that for one minute?
Joel: Right, they call it the two state solution and this is something that has been pushed really from the Bush administration; the Clinton everyone has failed; Obama is picking up the baton and he’s going for the two state solution and he’s pushing the Israeli government to go for the same thing; now that Netanyahu is open to discussing the such a thing. The bottom line is that within the very charter of Hamas and all of the various political leaders, even on the Palestinian side of the west bank, they all have a history of being openly stating the fact that they want to see the annihilation of the State of Israel. So while they may enter into a treaty in order to get concession, in order to see Israel give concessions and come their way. Their ultimate goal, is always to see the destruction of Israel.
Sid: But, wait a second, the US will back Israel up so they’ll never be able to get more than just the Palestinian state. Ought o, maybe that is why our military is being weaken and they know that.
Joel: You know, absolutely you know there is no question that those in Israel on the right that refuse to even discuss a two state solution, who are determined to be strong to make Israel’s military strong in order to rightfully defend themselves they are on the position of right, they are, history has borne out the fact that, when you have a nation of the people…
Sid: But listen, our state department knows what you’re saying, why are they still proceeding forward? Our administration knows…oops were out of time.
