Sid: My guest “red hot” is almost an understatement for Todd White; Todd has this special anointing of words of knowledge to talk to people in the street to demonstrate the kingdom of God. Todd, out of curiosity, is it easier to get a Christian that believes in healing that has been in the church for thirty years that has never experienced the healing themselves and seen very little, is it difficult to get someone like that healed or is it easier to get a nonbeliever in the street healed?
Todd: Well, I’m really glad that you asked that. One of the things that is so important is destroying lives, because strongholds are produce actually where someone has preached from a pulpit to a Christian that has been in the church for thirty years, where they have preached out of personal experience that didn’t line up with what the Word of God says. So now what they do is preach that and it is counter to what the Word says at the cost of God’s Word because they have to explain something that has happened in their life. So now you encounter that person out there on the street or you encounter that person at Wal-Mart, because it’s not just street evangelism. This is a kingdom lifestyle of twenty-four seven living for Him and not for me because I have laid my life down. So this thing is so amazing that, when I approach somebody, no matter what they believe, no matter what they’ve been taught, that has nothing to do with what I believe as the representative of God. So what I believe will trump their unbelief because it says there signs will follow those that believe. It doesn’t say these signs will follow those being prayed for; it doesn’t matter where a person is it matters where I am, because I’m the ambassador, I’m the representative. So when I pray for somebody I don’t see any worse case scenario whether they are praying for somebody that’s been in the church, all I need to do is get my hands on them. And sometimes that’s not even necessary. But I don’t see any more resistance as far as healing comes for an unbeliever and somebody that’s been raised in religion for forty-five years.
Sid: Tell me some of your favorite experiences.
Todd: Wow, okay well let me just real quick just destroy one lie. We’ve been taught that when you pray for somebody you have to be careful, you don’t want to lay hands on somebody to hastily, and that’s in Timothy and it talks about that, but when it talks about it in Timothy it talks about it as far as far as ordination of people into leadership and deaconship. It talks about ordaining people into office, it has nothing to do with praying for people that have…that are new age or witches or occult; it doesn’t matter.
Sid: So you have no problem with laying hands on someone know is a new ager?
Todd: Oh, I love it, because they’ll see God. I love that, that’s so good.
Sid: Now, do most people feel the presence of God when you lay hands on them and pray for them?
Todd: Well sure!
Sid: Ha ha. I like the way you say that.
Todd: Yeah, cause that’s all…see I don’t have, my motivation is love and so if that’s Jesus’ motivation and people felt the presence of God when Jesus touched them then the same thing should happen through me. So what I do is, I’m the representative; I’ll just give you an example of what I’m talking about. When we went to Wal-Mart two years ago, my wife and I did and we were going in and these two people walked by the front of the truck or the front of the vehicle and they were garbed out in black and the guy had tattoos down both sides of his cheeks, down his eyes, the whole way down them. My wife says, “Oh my goodness.” And I said, “Oh man, God is so going to, so going to land on them, this is going to be so good.” So we went in, I didn’t chase them down or anything, but I know that God will line it up because he wants to touch them. So I walked down the aisle in Wal-Mart and they’re at the end of the aisle so I go up to these two people and I said “Hey, how you doing today?” And the lady looks at me kind a like drops her chin down and looks with her eyes up and she goes, “fine.” And I said wow, it doesn’t sound like fine, it sounds like you are kinda upset. She said, “No I’m fine, what do you want?” I said, actually I said, I was just coming down here because I’m hearing in my heart that you have a back issue. And she said, “Yeah, so what?” I said, “Well, can I tell you what it is?” She goes, “Go ahead,” and she crossed her arms. And I said to her, “Well you’ve got like a herniated disk and you’ve this sciatic stuff down your leg and its making your foot numb.” She said, “Yeah, it’s hereditary.” And I said, “I know and actually people were telling you that because your father had it, that’s why you have it. She goes, “That’s right.” I said, “Look since I told you about your back, I say you let me pray for you, she goes “Honey, we don’t believe in the same thing.” I said, “Really, I’m not concerned about what you believe in, I said that doesn’t a matter anything, right now. I said my thing is let me pray for you. She goes “Well, I don’t believe in that,” I said, “Good, then let me pray for you, you have nothing to lose.” She said, “Okay.” So I prayed for her and the presence of God swept through her and the leg and her back got on fire and her toes immediately denumbed right there. She goes, “I don’t think you understand.” I said, I do God just healed you. She goes, “You don’t get it we don’t believe the same thing.” I said, “Cool what do you believe?” She said, “I’m a satanic high priest.” A priestess. I said, “Awesome, I know a high priest too and He so loves you, you are amazing.” And she is so freaked out that she starts telling me how she went to seminary school, she took theology and she was crushed and hurt by people that were teaching in the seminary and that she turned from that and she pressed into darkness. Because there is a real power of darkness, but the real power of darkness is nothing compared to the kingdom of light that we’ve been translated into? So all she needs is a God experience to be completely loved on by God Himself, she looks at her friend after I shared the kingdom with her and she had tears in her eyes. She said, I told you Jesus was a cool dude. Now, she’s a satanic high priestess for like twelve years and God landed on her and healed her and loved on her, because he loved her because she’s had the gospel misrepresented and since people have been taught that God’s in control all kinds of stuff is happening and it’s not God behind it. God can make lemonade out of any lemons but it is not God that gave you the lemon.
Sid: Do you know what that reminds me of, there are many Jewish people and their elderly now that survived Hitler’s holocaust and many of them, forget Jesus, they’ve become atheists because they say “How could a loving God have allowed something like this to happen?” What would you say to them?
Todd: I would say this, I would say in John 10:10 it is very clear where it talks about the description of the enemy and the description of God. Where it says the thief comes but to steal, to kill and to destroy and Jesus said, but I have come to give them life and that they may have it more abundantly. And that abundant word means violently excessive life. Now we know that satan can’t come up into heaven to steal, kill, and destroy so it’s talking about present tense in this life. And we know we will have abundant life when we get to heaven, but Jesus is talking about abundant life now. So now in my left hand I have death, loss and destruction and in my right hand I have abundant life and I would simply ask them if you were to put in one of these hands what you went through would it be stealing, killing and destroying or would it be the abundant life?
Sid: Well, no brainer it’s stealing, killing and destroying.
Todd: Simple, the problem is is that we’ve been taught that well, God’s in control, God’s in control. And in Psalms 115 verse 16 it says, “The heaven, even the heavens are Lord’s but the earth He did give to the children of men. If God was in control he wouldn’t have given it to the children of men. He wouldn’t have told us to be stewards over it, he wouldn’t have given authority to man. If God was in control you wouldn’t have the power to speak both life and death from your tongue. But because you have free will, you can choose to speak death and mark somebody for a loss or you can choose to speak life and mark somebody and God will know who to the write the check to by the words of encouragement that no corrupt words come from out of your mouth only that were used to encourage and edify and build up those who hear you. So God’s not in control, he actually given it to us. We’ve preached that and if God was in control, why would I need faith? Why would I need to pray? For whatever is to be will be. And if it’s impossible to please God without faith, that’s just contradictory to what God said, He’s not in control. But that is preached and its created a passive and a complaisant church that sits back and it gets run over by the enemy whose is death, loss and destruction while God takes the rap and satan slivers away like the snake in the grass. In the garden he was cursed to crawl on his belly and in the book of revelation he’s a seven headed monster, a dragon and we’ve created that we’ve allowed him to be that big. If the highest part of hell is beneath the lowest part of us, I think we have to realize who we are and if you want to send a message to satan, write it on the sole of your shoe.
Sid: Tell me about the man that could not bend his leg for over thirty years because he had two steel rods.
Todd: Yeah, of that was a really neat one too. I was in a church in Virginia and I was getting ready to preach a service and it was a first day that I was there. The pastor had just been introduced to me and I hadn’t really established a relationship before that point and I have the lapel mike on and he’s about ready to introduce me and the Holy Spirit says, “Run outside.” So I ran down the side of the church, I ran out the front door and the pastor has left there and my mike is on and now I’m running down the side walk and I see a homeless guy that’s coming across the street in a wheelchair. So I went up to him and said you’re the reason why I’m coming out here right now. He said, “Why?” I said, “Because you are in a wheelchair,” I said and God wants to get you out of there.” He said, “Well I don’t believe in that.” I said, “That’s okay man, I’m not asking you to believe in that right now.” I said “Look,” I said “What’s going on what happened?” He said, “In 1976 I fell off of a bridge and I severely broke my leg.” And what happened was that they put two steel rods from his chin on each side of his leg up the sides of the knee all the way up to the femur and they put screws in the whole way down. So his leg is literally frozen out there with steel rods and it’s calcified because it’s been frozen in that place since 1976. I said man, “I got to pray for your leg; he goes, “Well, I just fell two days ago and broke these ribs.” I said, “Are you in pain.” He said, “Awe, it’s terrible.” I said, “Come on man I’m going to pray for you.” And I went to put my hand inside his jacket and he said, “Don’t touch me,” and I had to even if he hit me I have to because I have to give him the encounter with God that God sent me out there for.
Sid: Tomorrow we’ll find out what happened in this encounter.