Sid: My guest, Leif Hetland it’s an understatement he is red hot for the Messiah, and we are talking about something that plagued him even as a Baptist Pastor. He had an orphan Spirit and he didn’t even know it. But when he got free, the glory of God set him free, he began to understand the love of the Father, it transformed his life, but it’s not just that it transformed his life and his family’s life, its transforming churches when he shares this. Tell me the experience you had at Pastor Bob Phillips church.
Leif: Yes, Pastor Bob Philips had met me at a healing school with Randy Clark and while we were there I was able to give an impartation to his staff. So he said that I would really like you to come to Houston, TX and I want you to share with our church. And he’s the Senior Pastor of The Encourager Church and he serves on a lot different boards and so Dr. Bob Philips, he wanted me to release this message and bring a whole environment of family in. And so we had some amazing services and he actually described it because he is visiting me now, because he described a whole environment of our churches. It is one thing to have a visitation and we’ve had powerful anointing and gifting and impartations and power, but he said, “Something changed in the whole environment of our people, the very DNA of our people and it lingered it continued to stay upon the people.” So the message that I came in with was both the Baptism of Love and it’s kind of people asked me, “Are you married?” And I said, “Well, I think so.” Now if I cannot say yes, I’m married and my wife, her name is Jennifer we’ve been married for twenty-two years, I have four children. If you have these uncertainties you probably have not had this baptism of love experience that I’m talking about. It is like, Baptism of the Holy Spirit and so we released that over so there is no longer fear in the room. That is the first thing, it is a Baptism of Love, you’re My Beloved Son. Second thing was healing the orphan spirit and get rid of the pain and some of the things that took place. And the third thing was the glory of God came into that place, even to the extent that people went to different places; Dr. Bob Philip and Juan Carlos who’s leading the God’s Spirit in Mexico today. They went to Mexico, met with 2,500 young people, the same presence that was on them in that meeting came into the room and just changed the environment there in Mexico. There was an impartation just of the environment and was a family environment, it was a love environment, fear was moved away. They brought me to Mexico as an example and I was down there and it was taped all over the Latin world and I gave an impartation of love, healing the orphan spirit. There was screams all over, it was televised, but it touched all over Mexico and something changed in the environment there. So we are not talking about a visitation, but our lives, marriages, fear. When fear moves out, perfect love cast away all fear. So when the healing of the orphan spirit there’s screams, they’re yelling; some from childhood, some from the abuses, some from the shame, but also with all the drug cartels and what they were going through. Many of them was up they’re husband has been killed, they’re pastor has been dismissed; there was so much pain in the room. And we had gone with the anointing, powers and healing, but there was something that was missing. But when that orphan spirit left and they got a glorious encounter with Poppa God something changes. It is not just they started out there as the Encourager Church. But that impartation of that went to a young explosion meeting where all the youth was out in the spirit, several of them were taken up to Heaven and they’re some amazing testimonies. That move again, they asked me to come down and do their annual leadership conference from all over Mexico and plus it was taped all over Latin world. And one example, while I released the love, one from Argentina that watched on line says, “That it was all over the world, Spain and all over people were watching, but it was like liquid love that came into the room he said; and the waves just continue and it has been going on four twenty-four hours.” So he was one to testify and he’s been set totally free. So the love started to touch even over technology, the sounds of love that came in there just continue and it’s just like liquid love.
Sid: So liquid love is the best way to get rid of fear, to get rid of shame, to get rid of that orphan spirit.
Leif: Yes, I say the Baptism of love is what changed. I really feel that the biggest breakthrough I saw was with my friend, Bill Johnson and Randy Clark doing a healing school at Hosanna Lutheran Church. And it has been five years ago now this Spring and when we were up there to Filipinos, but all over the place, but two Filipinos they came up to me and they said, “Can you give us a “Father’s Blessing?” And they wept, because we are orphans, when they heard about orphan spirit. But all over the place people stood in long line and they cried out because this orphan spirit that started to manifest. I released the Father’s Blessing, they came up to me afterwards, showed me their hands; oil was coming out of their hands and that is Dr. Paul and Amir Auto, the President of Destiny Ministry International. I didn’t know who they were, just two people in a conference, but a Father’s Blessing was given and the Father said, “I believe in you, you are valuable, you’re beautiful Father God I released what He saw about them and I started to release the destiny over their life.” They went back and since then revival started to break loose with a lot of signs wonders and miracles.
Sid: Tell me the story about the feathers.
Leif: So what happens, I went down the first time to the Philippians to their 500 leaders and it was actually literally wind that came in and blew over chairs in that meeting when the love came in. But the second time I didn’t even know, I mean this is maybe the Baptist in me Sid, but I didn’t know that I was prophesying. But in the middle of my message that I was preaching about I suddenly just, I didn’t know I did it, but I just stopped and said you are moving from an organization an orphanage, a church and you’re becoming a family. When I said that I didn’t know and I have several key American leaders with me sitting on the first row, three big orange feathers just from nowhere just started to soar above my head and they just continued to float. They continued to float long enough to when everybody in the audience, nobody listened to what I had to say. And I’m thinking this is pretty rude, I’m sharing powerful message, I didn’t know, I was the last one to know that something was happening. And then finally one called and said, “Daddy Leif look, look over your head,” and the feathers was there and I had those feathers with me; I carry them with me as a memory stone. The Filipino’s they said, “What did Daddy Leif say when the feathers came?” They learned about stewardship of the supernatural that is a sign that makes you wonder, what does this make us wonder about? So they found a DVD and they saw that when the feather’s came and they said, “You are moving from being an organization, an institution, an orphanage, a church and you are becoming a family.” And when the family was said, they said, “How does family look like?” was their question, and they started go into the presence of God to see how was it between a Father, Son and Spirit; that’s how we’re suppose to operate here. And the next time I came I was blown away because everybody was family. They operated like family, they gave like family, they love like family, it was a family, I didn’t visit an orphanage, I visited a family and since then the families on the earth has been blessed all over the world as a result of that ministry.
Sid: You know so many, families, husband, wife, and children are run, as you put it, like an orphanage, because they’re all love starved, they’re all orphans. So many churches are run as spectator sport where you go; you are invisible, you get feed, and then you leave, but that’s not what God meant. Tell me what’s it’s like to have a church that’s a family rather than an orphanage.
Leif: Well, first of all the first thing I recognize, I just need to, they are my heroes in the Philippians because I came to them as how did you do that? What I feel here what I said, “You taught us that us Daddy Leif.” “What did I teach you?” I gave them my notebook and what I did was observing a prototype of something that was from Heaven that was manifested on earth. One of the things that I saw, there was no punishment, I am not saying that there was not discipline, but there was no punishment. There was no fear in the atmosphere. I saw the supernatural what was natural. I saw the way that they took care of one another, I saw that over ninety percent of any issues that was automatically gone. I saw that when you are coming there it is not what I can get, because that is the orphans, but what can I give. When they were coming there they were there to add value, not to receive value. I saw, I mean that there was a major shift in the way that they were viewing…
Sid: What you’re telling me, is the entire atmosphere changed.
Leif: Yes.
Sid: And when that atmosphere changes how is easy is it for people receive miracles, for people to be delivered, for people to be healed?
Leif: Yeah, as I say we last year, a team just came back last week, but last year three of the meetings, every person was healed in the meeting and nobody know who prayed for whom.
Sid: Every person?
Leif: Every person, it was the only time in my life or ministry, I don’t say that it is normal, but it just happened in three meetings where every kind of disease just left and it was just the presence, and it was the family and it was the love and nobody knows who prayed for whom in a sense that it was not because I was there or somebody was anointed and gifted. This was the nameless and the faceless move, it is a family; it is Sons and Daughters that is only doing what Poppa is doing. And everyone carries, we are different from anointing and gifting, but that’s how you live in interdependence, they are not independent. They need one another, they add value to one another, they honor one and another and it is just a phenomenal feel but it creates an environment where it seems like Heaven is coming down, not just to visit but it creates an environment where creative miracles is taking place, tumors are disappearing, and it is very very attractive as I say for God to come because He don’t want to come to be a visitor again and another program. He wants His family, He wants to habitation, not the visitation and that’s the environment. So the supernatural seems so natural, it seems so easy and I feel why do we make it so difficult, including in my life that is supposed to be the Father of this movement? I’m learning and I’m saying, wow this seems so easy, so simple.
Sid: Boy, I can just feel such a velvety presence of the Holy Spirit, can’t you feel that? Now Leif Hetland gives these seminars all over where he prays for the impartation of the Father’s blessing. He prays for impartation of supernatural love. He prays to have you healed of an orphan spirit. He prays that you would be free from the perhaps you had a father that was absent or abusive, or just cold. He prays for you to experience intimacy with God.
