SID: Hello Sid Roth here with David Herzog and David, how did you understand the difference between moving in the anointing and moving in the glory? How did you make this transition?
DAVID: Well for years I would minister in the anointing, I would pray for the sick and things would happen, but I would sense, God there has got to be much more, because I would be tired you know, after praying for hundreds of people you know, one on one, something comes out of you and you feel like a weakness, or a tiredness. I said God how am I going to reach thousands of people at one time, or millions, and I began to ask the Lord and He introduced me to the glory of God, and I realized that one moment in His glory can reach a thousand times more than me in my own gifting and anointing trying to do something. So I was in Africa one time, and I saw this with deliverance, masses of people getting delivered of demons in a couple of minutes that normally would take days and weeks to get all those people delivered of witchcraft. And the glory came down from heaven, covered the entire stadium where we were ministering, and God said to me, “Now what do you see?” And I could see angles coming down and touching the people and I would speak that, I would say, “I see angels over there, I see angels over here.” And masses of people fell to the ground and was instantly delivered of demonic influence, and it was so easy, I felt so light, it was so easy, and then I used that for healings and miracles as well, I will get a word of knowledge for weight loss, or for tumors, or for whatever, and I will see not just one person, but thousands. You know normally we pray for someone, we lay hands on them, oh God please touch them, and we are praying, we are, but there is another realm of the glory that just comes over the entire crowd and you just speak one word and it is happening instantly and not just for one person but for maybe even thousands of people.
SID: You know these signs and wonders are signs and wonders to grab the unbeliever’s attention to hear the gospel, it is that simple. But what I am about ready to show our people is so amazing, there was a woman that went to one of your meetings and sat under the glory and when she sat under the glory for hours and hours she was praying in the Spirit, and she was so in the glory that she literally, as a police officer said, went through a gigantic truck. Let’s take a look at this right now.
Two weeks later I was driving home with a gentleman from the jail with me and our two daughters from our Saturday night service, and as I was heading home to take him home, I appeared into an intersection as I was driving and the light for me was green and I was following another car through that intersection when my daughter yelled in the back stop, and I looked to my left and coming down a large hill was a big two-door truck with an eight-horse trailer attached to it and he comes through the intersection and I am stopped and he is not swerving, I can’t do anything and within seconds I feel him hit my car, everybody in the car felt the impact, just the movement of the car inside and then all of a sudden it was like we were separated from this world, it was like almost dreamy, and then all of a sudden after that happened I started seeing along with everyone else his truck, piece by piece, pass through my car. Sections of it, I mean I remember sections of it, and thinking in my mind he hit my car, I know that we just had an accident but I don’t feel any of the trauma of this accident. He passes all the way through with all of the horse trailer and I looked to the right on the on the final path in following his car, and there is a police officer there, he was one of our undercover officers, he is not in an actual vehicle but he goes up and puts a red light on and follows it, I completed the intersection and my youngest daughter got out, she was a little disturbed and we were all shaky inside, and I drove the young gentleman home, I called my husband and told him what had happened to us and he said, “You know there was an officer there, let’s get a hold of him and see what he saw.” And so the next day we found the officer who had witnessed it and he did not want to talk about it, he said I will only tell you this, he said I reached down to grab the radio to call in the accident, I saw him hit you, and when I pulled up my radio to bring it to my mouth to call in the accident he was passing through your car.
SID: That is outrageous, it is wonderful. David, how did she get into that realm?
DAVID: Well it is funny because that last night in those meetings, she was there with her church group and I actually talked about how in the glory the sound waves in your body, because we are made of sound, expand when you are in the glory, when you are in the presence of God you feel like you are getting lighter and things are just, like you are floating almost. So I was actually teaching on that realm, how it happens. And when you talk about something it opens up the realm for it to happen. Then they drive home, a fifteen hour trip, for fifteen hours or so, twelve hours or whatever it was, it was non-stop worshipping, praising God for the miracles, some of them in that van were healed of asthma, you know like they had insulin, and you know that’s when it happened and they were in such a realm of glory the molecules in their body, even on the vehicle just began to expand, like a cell phone, sound waves go through walls, Jesus went through walls when he was in his glorified state when he came back from being resurrected, so when you are in that heavy glory, the molecular structure of your body literally changes, your spirit man starts to take over your physical man and you can go through objects, you can go through walls, you can be transported and that is pretty much what happened, that glory got to such a degree their spirit man took over the physical man and even the vehicle went right through the other vehicle.
SID: Just out of curiosity David, have you or your wife Stephanie ever been transported in the Spirit?
DAVID: Yes we have.
SID: Tell me one quick.
DAVID: Okay, I was on my way I was driving from Paris, France to Brussels, Belgium, or a town near Brussels, three hour trip, I was late, my car broke down, I got it fixed, 7:30 I am on the road, my meeting is at seven, so I am half an hour late and I have a three hour drive in heavy traffic, I am not going to make it, I called the pastor, “Pastor I am going to be there at 10:30, in three hours, hopefully, I am going to miss the meeting, I am sorry, why don’t you preach and I will just come at the end to greet the people.” I get in the car and now I am just worshipping Jesus
because I know I am not going to preach anyway so I am just enjoying Jesus for me, I am not trying to get a word, I am not trying to, I am just enjoying the presence of God for as long as I can, 45 minutes in to it, suddenly all the signs change and I am in Belgium, and I look and that is my next exit and I pull up to the church at 8:15.
SID: How long should it have taken?
DAVID: At least three hours.
SID: And how long did it take?
DAVID: 45 minutes I was there.
SID: I like this glory business, don’t go away because you are going to be invaded by the glory.
