Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah, his name is Chuck Pierce. He has such a unique gift of prophecy and on yesterday’s broadcast he brought out that he prophesied back in 2005 that a black man would be the President of the United States. He was warned not to say that, but that’s what God said, and that’s what he said; and that’s what became in the White House we have the first African American President the United States. And then he said that, “As a result of this in affect it would lift the curse of slavery that because of the fact there was an African American in the White House.” But yet he then had a vision and he saw that in May of 2011 there would be a statement made that would divide the United States even though it was now united, it would be even divided because it would hit at the root cause of slavery. It would hit cause of all of the separations of peoples in the world and that is anti-Semitism. You prophesied what would happen in May of 2011 Chuck Pierce.
Chuck: Yes, and Sid I want to say you know, by visiting with you I don’t know of anybody I would listen to this program; all of you listening out there each day because it’s easy for this man to bring us into an understanding of fullness. Now, let me go back now, what I prophesied was, “The curse would be neutralized.” Now I want all of you listeners to hear this, because this book explains this, the curses in your life can be neutralized without you really dealing with the root. And what I saw was when a black man would become president it would neutralize the curse that had so pulled us apart in slavery in this nation. But of course the root of that usually is money, but in the midst of it this curse would be neutralized. Except then in May of 2008 God showed me that President Obama would come and make a statement that would start pulling us apart really from our root covenant plan of God which is our alignment with Israel. So a curse can be neutralized, but then all of a sudden we can activate a deeper root which is anti-Semitism and things begin to happen. Now notice what happened with President Obama when he made this statement in May, was this the first time a President had made a statement like this? Absolutely Not, President Bush made a statement, see I think in America we get so caught up politically that we miss spiritually what’s going on and our alignment is a spiritual alignment and we have to understand our covenant with the God of Israel even though we live in America. And in the midst of this what happened was, President Bush made a statement at one point about Israel and we saw Katrina sweep in. We now see President Obama making this statement about Israel returning to its borders of 1967 which were indefensible until they gained a rule and established an order that would protect them and he said, “Return back so you can’t defend yourself again.” That’s actually what he was saying, notice what happened. The atmosphere of America changed so much at that point you see Joplin occurring, you see Alabama stirring up, you see an influx of elements in our atmosphere to awaken us that something is wrong in this nation.
Sid: Now do you see any tie in because about that time that President Obama opened his mouth and said, “Israel should return to its pre‘67 borders, the head of the international monetary fund ran into a sexual abuse charges?
Chuck: Well absolutely, because all of a sudden what you’re going to see is you’re going to see the ruling force behind all anti-Semitism is mammon. And remember what Jesus said, “You can’t serve God and mammon both. So the two always link together, now all of a sudden you see the leader of what is actually ruling economic structures show his true colors of being accused of forcing himself upon the opposite sex. That also is anti-Semitic because anti-Christ works these ways. It works first of all against Israel, then it works against prophets, then it works against woman, then it works against the lesser people whom God chose first in a nation to understand the land. I’m telling you, and then it works from a perversity stand point, it twists what’s going on. I’m telling you it is time now to defeat our enemy who is opposing us or else we get caught under this atmosphere. I refuse for us to be caught under an atmosphere that God does not intend for us to walk under Sid.
Sid: Now will? Let me ask you this as a prophet, is it set in concrete is it not set in concrete the future of America? Will America go back to its first love, and that’s a love of God and a blessing to the Jewish people in Israel or will it miss its destiny?
Chuck: This is what I see, I see in these next three years, God showed me in May 2008, three years ahead to May 2011. Now I’m looking into the next three years; I see what the Lord’s going to do is from region to region in America. Do like what he did in the book of Revelation, deal with the church in that region to see how the present church goes beyond where they are into its alignment of fullness where Jew and Gentile become one. If they refuse to do that, areas in America will come under the rule of the enemy.
Sid: What do you see, well let’s go back to the church what do you see happening to the church in the near future? What changes do you see there with denominations etc?
Chuck: Well, I see the church as moving out of a church age into a Kingdom age and because of that we’re having to express Kingdom in a way in which we never expressed it before. I don’t think church actually and of course you know this Sid, but for our listeners out there, church means has two dynamics; it means to gather for fellowship or to gather for war. Now, what I think we’re coming into is an expression of fullness of Kingdom where you have to understand God’s covenant plan for Jews. You have to understand that the gentiles have been grafted into this plan and it’s almost like torah and spirit coming together and we have to choose to rise up into a nation above all nations and begin to demonstrate the power of God in a way that we have lost this demonstration in America. Other nations of the world, if you’re listening, you have to hear this also because it will determine how a nation goes based upon how we see a Kingdom of priest began to rise up and demonstrate the power of the King who rules us.
Sid: Now, you and another of others took out an ad recently in the Wall Street Journal, briefly what did this ad say?
Chuck: It talked about our support of Israel.
Sid: Now, why would you spend money and put your reputation on in an ad like that and it came out right after the President’s proclamation?
Chuck: Well, I’ll tell you why; first of all I believe when God made covenant with Abraham, Abraham the Hebrew, the word Hebrew means, one who crosses over. I believe that covenant that God made with Abraham that he brought Abraham into that he separated a people out of a nation that held them and crossed them out of Egypt and brought then toward their promise. I believe I am a part of that covenant. I honor the God of Israel, I worship the God of Israel, through His Son that He sent to display who He fully was, and who He fully is, I literally worship the God of Israel who made covenant with a land called, Israel. And because of that I am willing to put my faith out on a line and confess that faith and confess that one day the fullness of what God has said will manifest in this earth.
Sid: Now, I don’t want to get too far drifted, I want our people to heart this, “What did God show you about China and Israel? And what did God show you about the future of the economy of China and what they would own in the US?
Chuck: Well, in 1986 God visited me and showed me ten year increments of what would be happening; I called it the future war of the church. And in those ten year increment what He showed me was specifically how China would advance and change in the earth to become the ruling economic power of the earth. Now, here was the strange thing; I wrote and shared that China in 2016, I shared what would happen in all ten year increments. But in 2016 I shared that China would then become predominate in its influence economically worldwide. I actually had people address me because the IMS shared that China would not become predominate in its rule of economics until the year 2026. IMS came back this year, we have a record of the article saying we were wrong, by 2016 China will become dominate in its rule of economic…
Sid: But what you see in reference to China and Israel is so amazing, we’ll pick up right there on tomorrows broadcast.