Sid: We want everyone everywhere to have freedom in God, freedom that God wants you to have a freedom that you want to have. And I have an individual I interviewed many years ago by the name of Art Mathias on the telephone. I’m speaking to him at his office in Anchorage, Alaska and we’ll be talking about his book, called “Biblical Foundations of Freedom.” And Art the subtitle says it all, “Destroying Satan’s Lies with God’s Truth” and I love what you did in the title and you have some of the letters in a different color. So if you read the ones in the yellow color of the title which says “Bible Foundations of Freedom” you have “I Found Freedom.” And I am getting so many wonderful reports of people that have read your book and it’s literally transformed their life from overeating to diseases of every kind. Speaking of diseases you had an accident in 1997 and you did what every good Christian should do and you went to the elders of your congregation, they prayed for you and nothing happened. And you found out from your sister who had recently been healed of tumors that emotions can literally, toxic emotions can literally block someone from being healed. We don’t hear much about this, but as you learned about this, you got your healing and then you developed teaching and you’re getting close to 75% success rate in physical healings for other people based on understanding the blockages to healing. And that’s what it really is there are blockages to healing; we don’t hear much about that.
Art: We don’t in church, but psychology and medicine teaches that all the time. The whole areas of psychology called Psychoneuroimmunology and Behavioral Psychology teach these connections constantly that certain and they even get very specific; certain specific types of emotions will cause specific kinds of diseases.
Sid: Let’s go back to the accident you had in ’97; tell be briefly what you worse condition was, what the prognosis was and then the good results.
Art: Well, it took several months for me to understand what was happening because my right shoulder had withered nerve cells in my fingers and toes especially on the right side of my body were atrophy, were dying. And no matter what I ate, no matter it hurt me, my stomach hurt; clothing as I learned would cause nerve pain in my arms, especially anything synthetic. And as I worked through everything and now in apathetic or western medicine and then got involved in alternative medicine and I did many many different types of treatment with Alatson Alternative Medicine also.
Sid: How many different things were you allergic to?
Art: Over a hundred different allergies and these allergies were causing the atrophies in my fingers in response to the clothing.
Sid: I mean were you going to be like the old story of the boy in the bubble because he’s allergic to everything?
Art: Well, that’s where it leads to, we’ve worked with many that are called universal reactors and they live in a tinfoil lined house in Arizona because their allergic to everything. And I was down to being able to eat about four different foods even though they hurt.
Sid: And they actually felt your vital organs would just close down and you would die!
Art: Well, they told, the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale told me I had less than two years to live. As the nerves continue to die, they would progress and to the point to would come to a vital organ and then I would be dead; and they said that that would take two years or less. Tremendous fear, now what’s happening? And at the end of that process of going through everything in the medical world, that’s when my sister told me about her healing. And I thought it was crazy, I thought it was the most outlandish thing I ever heard, but I was desperate I had less than two years to live and I was in constant horrible pain. And at that stage I would listen and at that stage I would actually do what she taught me to do which I thought was…she taught me to forgive.
Sid: But wait a second, you had been a Christian most of your life, a student of the Bible, that’s just basics, forgiveness.
Art: That is true, but see I was taught a process that once I accepted Jesus all my past, present and future sins are automatically forgiven. I did not have to do anything; it was all under the blood or under the cross since I accepted Jesus. And you know the blood of Jesus is there to forgive us for anything, but there is something we have to do; we have to forgive. The Lord’s Prayer says that we ask God to forgive us in the same way that we forgive others. Matthew 6:14 & 15 says that “If we don’t forgive others, then the Father’s not going to forgive us;” 1st John 1:9 says “If we repent He’s faithful and just to cleanse.” But see, implied in all of that we have to repent, we have to forgive others; we have to actually forgive ourselves. So those are the things I was never taught to do and then we’ve learned that if there’s an emotional pain in a memory, if a memory hurts, then there’s bitterness in that memory. And when we’ve truly forgiven that emotional pain is gone and it leaves. See that emotional pain is what causes what medicine calls a “fight flight response” and that’s, we’re on guard in that response our adrenal glands are squirting out a whole bunch of adrenaline and kartasol. Our liver is putting out a whole bunch of sugar for that extra strength that “fight flight response” requires. And in that process over 1400 different chemical and physiological and hormonal responses are happening. And those chemical and neurological and hormonal responses are killing ourselves as we live underneath that tremendous “feedback loops” as medicine calls it. And we find that as in medicine and physiology and the Bible all three teach that living in that state of alarm and fear and anxiety and bitterness creates almost all of our diseases. And God can’t heal us when we are full of anger, resentment or unforgiveness.
Sid: I believe you’re at a tremendous success rate of getting people healed of all types of diseases, 75%. I believe that as we learn more and get more revelation from God’s word, we are going to reach that 100% success rate.
Art: That’s our goal, but see in that 25% that aren’t healed.
Sid: Yes.
Art: Are those that just won’t apply this, they won’t do the very simple things that God’s word teaches.
Sid: So you think that if you had 100% effort of what you teach, you’d get 100% results?
Art: Not sure, I would go quite that far, but it would be about 95% at least.
Sid: I’ll take it; I’ll take the 95%!
Art: I’m excited about that, once in awhile we come to someone that has applied everything in every way that we know and there not healed, so in those cases were asking the Lord “What else are we missing Lord?” Because we firmly believe that it’s always God’s will to heal. He promises that in many places in the scriptures. And so when the healing doesn’t happen, we don’t blame the person, we don’t blame ourselves, we just ask God to teach us more and more and more.
Sid: Okay, so you learned Bible forgiveness and by the way I think most Christians that even understand they’re suppose to forgive, don’t understand Biblical forgiveness. Your book is brilliant on that, I mean there are things that…I mean I’ve been in this over thirty years as a believer in the Messiah and moving in healing even and I’ve learned some things on forgiveness in your book. Why is it that that isn’t something that is 101 basic discipleship?
Art: That’s a good question, I have struggled with that question many times Sid, because as you said, it’s basic, it’s the basic principles that are taught in Hebrew’s 6:1 of Christianity, the foundational principles. But as humans we don’t want to take responsibility for our actions, we want to blame it on somebody else and Satan always tempts us to blame others or to blame God for our problems. And we find that that’s one of the biggest blocks to healing is to become personally responsible for what’s going on in our lives.
Sid: When you genuinely forgave how long did it take for you to manifest your healing with a prognosis of two years to live and a horrible life?
Art: Oh, I first was exposed to what my sister was teaching me in October of 1998 and as I started working through and applying that and doing the simple things and not understanding how to do it; I had no body teaching me. I started to forgive and just simple prayers and then there was another verse that kept coming at me during that time, 2nd Timothy 1:7 says, “I haven’t given you a spirit of fear.” But I didn’t believe that a Christian could have a spirit, an evil spirit. I was always taught that the Holy Spirit and an evil spirit can’t be at the same place at the same time, but yet I knew that I was controlled by a fear of the future, a fear of eating anything, a fear of being exposed to over a hundred different things caused pain my body. And so I was controlled by that fear and on January the 7th 1999 I prayed another prayer, I said, “Lord, I don’t understand this fear, but I command this spirit of fear to leave me.” So after forgiving the best I knew how and God honored that and then commanding the spirit to leave me, my healing happened instantly.
Sid: That is so amazing, but the thing that is so amazing to me is that it’s not just forgiveness, it’s every area of toxic emotion and God has given us a way to get on top of this. Most people are totally ignorant. “My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.
