Sid: My guests are red hot for the Messiah, Wesley and Stacy Campbell, and I caught up with them by way of telephone at their home at Kelowna BC Canada. And Wesley comes from three generations of Plymouth Brethren. And Wesley as I understand it you believed the gifts had passed away, woman needed head coverings, did not allow musical instruments. You were just plain religious.
Wesley: And boring, let me tell you it was boring.
Sid: I mean you have come a long way. Ha-ha.
Wesley: Long way and we’re happy to have come.
Sid: And Stacy as a young child you were raised in an environment that did not understand the gifts of the Spirit but God was operating in your life as a young child, you just had no grid for it. Give me an example.
Stacy: Well, we would go to church quite regularly, most Sundays we went to church, although we never had a Bible in our home; kind of a mainline denomination where you just sort of out to tradition went to church and believed in God in general. But God was very, very far away personally; like you know He was out there. But when I was six or seven years old I had a dream where Jesus appeared to me and audibly spoke to me. And it totally completely changed my life; I thought, I thought that God was out there, it wasn’t that I didn’t believe in God. But when He spoke to me, He said this, he said, he quoted words that we say in church every single Sunday, and all He said was, “Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again.” But it was terrifying like the voice was literally like the Bible says, like the voice of many waters, like thunder. And I as a child was so impacted by those words and I received from this vision of Jesus where those audible words were spoken a deep impartation of the fear of the Lord. And I instantly knew from that moment on what was right and what was wrong. I was always the white sheep of my family. I always wanted to be good and I was like I was actually literally horrified by evil, I was always telling all my brothers and my twin sister and you know I didn’t want them to do anything bad. But I didn’t know how to find God again, like I knew He was there from that moment and I was always searching for God from that moment on.
Sid: Now, you had quite an unusual experience when you were told to marry Wesley.
Stacy: Oh that, that also was incredible because I went from a mainline…
Wesley: And I’m very thankful for that by the way.
Stacy: Ha-ha, I went from a mainline denomination to when I met my husband, he took me to the Plymouth Brethren Church.
Wesley: But we weren’t married.
Stacy: No, and as a sixteen year old and he invited me to church and the youth group and everything. And they taught me the Bible which I am so grateful for, gave me a deep foundation in the word. But they also taught me all the gifts of the Holy Spirit had ceased, but I use to pray the Bible every night since I was sixteen years old, I would not go to sleep without bringing myself before the Bible. And I want to say this, about prayer, is that the bulk of my supernatural experiences have come out of the context of prayer. As I’ve been seeking God, God will suddenly you know invade my personal life and give me a very phenomenal experience. And so university I was praying the Bible, Isaiah Chapter 40.
Sid: When you say, “Praying the Bible, what do you mean by that?”
Stacy: Well, I started praying the Bible when I was sixteen years old because I was the dumbest one in church. In other words I knew, I had no Biblical background, I had never had a Bible, I became a Christian at sixteen and though I had known about God and had been searching for God I never ever took the bible and read it. So when I got to the Plymouth Brethren Church everybody knew the Bible, everybody knew all about it and I, you know the preacher would say, go look up the book of Philippians and I wouldn’t even know what, I’d turn to the person next to me and said, “What page is it on?” I knew nothing about the Bible. And so I went home and I tried to read it at home and I was so, it was so confusing to me as a sixteen year old girl that the only way that I could understand it is if I took every word very very slowly and prayed it. And I said “God I don’t understand this and I don’t know what this means and you have to help me understand it.” And so I’d take the first word, Paul. And I’d say, “Well, who is Paul?” and I’d look up in the concordance everything I could find about Paul. And you know found out about how he got saved with the blinding light and how he used to be a Pharisee of Pharisees of the Tribe of Benjamin. And you know all about his background and how he did Missionary journey’s and you know about…And then I’d go to the next verse and Timothy. And I’d say “God, tell me about Timothy” and so I’d look up in the concordance about Timothy how he had a saved mother and grandmother and how he use to go on Missionary’s with Paul and then I’d go to the next verse. Bond slaves, bond slaves, what’s a bond slave and I looked up in Exodus how it says you know you couldn’t have a Hebrew slave, you had to let them go after every seven years. But it said “That if the servant loved his master you know and wants to continue to serve him out of desire you have to go first of all and get the scroll from the judge has to go and get his ear pierced with a null and then he gets to be a bond slave for life.” And so then I would pray that, and I would say “God, just like Paul was a bondslave and Timothy was a bondslave you know, make me your bondslave.” And I was you know in an alcoholic family, I was you know five brothers, twin sister; the only one in my whole family line on both sides that I knew was a Christian. And in that context as I prayed the Bible slowly because I was the dumbest one in church “God, I prayed like Paul was a bondslave and Timothy was a bondslave that you would make me your bondslave and so when I go to high school tomorrow I’m asking God that you would help me to know who I am in You and who You are in me.” And it really totally formed; it was the foundation and basis of my entire spiritual life.
Sid: So tell me now how you knew you were suppose to marry Wesley.
Stacy: Well, out of that context, so I did that every night from sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen. When I was eighteen years in my second year of university because I graduated from High School young and went to University early; I was in my second year of university and I would pray every single night at university. And I was studying French and German and I was living in a dorm room nobody else was Christians in my dorm and so every single night I would go into my dorm room and I would pray the Bible. And I had been praying Isaiah 40 at the time and Wesley was on the mission field in Nigeria.
Wesley: For a year.
Stacy: Yeah, for a year and so we would just write letters and I was thinking, actually I am going to be an interpreter and I’m going to try to work for the UN and I’m going this way and Wesley is going to be a Plymouth Brother and Pastor. And he and I are going totally different directions so this isn’t going to work so I broke up with him. But while I was praying Isaiah Chapter 40 about God how awesome God is, He’s measured the waters in the haul of His hand and He’s mark off the heavens with the span. And then it goes on to say this “Behold the nations are like a drop from a bucket; there like a speck of dust from the scales.” You know they’re like nothing before Him, they’re like less than nothing and meaningless. And I’m praying through this thing like the whole nations of the world are like you know just a speck, they are like nothing like, less than nothing. And as I’m praying that, my whole university room lights up. Now you have to understand, a Plymouth Berean I am in a room by myself with a head covering on, praying the Bible and the entire dorm room lights up with this golden glow and I look down at my Bible and tears are falling off my face onto my Bible and suddenly my Spirit is lifted out of my body and I am in this experience where I’m flying with another being which I know is the Lord, I know that it’s the Lord; I know it’s the Lord Jesus. I’m flying over the nations of the world with God. And He’s saying, He says, “I will show you how the nations are like less than nothing before Me.” And in like just a brief period of time we just flew over nations and we zoomed in on certain ones. Even nations where there’s wars going on and trouble and famine and we would zoom down on those nations and I would see them and then we would zoom back up. And the audible voice of God spoke to me and He said, “I Am Lord of the nations.” And I had this understanding that even in wars and famine and difficulty that God is working all things to the pleasure of His goodwill and things are moving in exorable towards His will ultimately being done, He will work through these things. I don’t know how I understood this but I had this innate understanding that God knew everything, that nothing was escaping His notice. That he would even use what the devil meant for evil for good and bring nations to Himself. And then He said, “I am Lord, but the audible voice was “I Am Lord of the nations.” And then thunk I’m back in my body, tears are falling on my Bible, the room is golden glow and kind of shinny and then the Lord audibly spoke to me, He said, “And I’m Lord of you and I want you to marry Wesley.” Now that meant to me, I’d have to leave my family because none of them were Christians, they did not like Wesley because he was so evangelical preaching all the time. I had to leave my family and go against my parent’s wishes. I had to quit university because I knew that even though I had a career that meant giving up my whole career, that meant doing all that and I had to you know probably was in my mind’s eye saw myself with ahead covering you know silent in the church for the rest of my life but I felt like that’s what God wants me to do. So I said, “Okay, I’ll do it.” But that was the singular best decision I have ever made in my life.
Wesley: Amen.
Sid: Ha-ha, Wesley how long did it take you to figure out what Stacy figured out?
Wesley: Well, it took me longer, I was in Africa and you know I began to read for the very first time…
Sid: I’ll tell you what, we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast but, Wesley I am so intrigued by your book. The title is “Praying the Bible, the pathway to spirituality.” It seems as though Stacy was just taught this by God how to pray the Bible. But you did research and you found out the ancient Jewish way of praying.
Wesley: Right.
Sid: Most Christians don’t have a clue about. What difference does it make in your life that you have learned to pray the Bible?
Wesley: It has changed everything about my life, everything about my life, everything I believe and do now has been based on the experience through praying the Bible and before that I didn’t even pray and I didn’t know how to pray.
Sid Roth: Well, I got a quote by you and you state “Everyone that learns how to pray this way experiences a marked improvement in their prayer life.” And with what’s going on in the world today we need a marked improvement. Do you need a marked improvement; do you need help in your prayer life?
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