SID: Sid Roth here with messianic Jewish psalmist Paul Wilbur. The job, if you will, of a psalmist is so misunderstood, and the only way you can understand what a psalmist is, is to look at the Jewish scriptures. What is a psalmist, Paul?

PAUL: I believe the best definition of a psalmist, Sid, would be for a cantor today; someone who hears the voice of God and gives it voice into the earth. Now that could be a restating of something written by King David, or one of the prophets, that has an application for today. But those of us who lead worship, and I’m not a song leader, I lead worship, or lead worshippers, I believe our highest calling is as watchmen – to hear what others cannot hear, see what others cannot see, and then give it voice into the earth. So a psalmist really is a prophetic ministry.

SID: Speaking of a prophetic ministry, you’re a prophet. What do you see happening this year?

PAUL: A lot of people are declaring a lot of things. Brother Hagin declared, before he graduated from this earth, that the last quarter of last year and this entire year was to be a year of unprecedented glory. That is the manifest presence of God. I really reverberate with that in my spirit. I’ve been with other notable men and women of God that are declaring that this is a year for unprecedented supernatural things in the earth. This year as I was praying – the end of last year and the beginning of this year – the word the Lord gave me was “breakthrough.” I believe this is a year for breakthrough. Isaiah 45, one of the prophets of Israel, Isaiah, said that the anointed of the Lord, God would take him by the hand. You cannot miss it, when God takes you by the hand like a father to lead you across a street or take you where you need to go. And then he said “I will cut down bars of iron before you. I will open double doors – double doors.” The blessing this year, I believe, Sid, is going to be so large that it won’t be able to pass through a single door. It’s going to have to be double doors. And then he said “I will also give you secrets; treasures hidden in secret places.”

SID: You know, when you say treasures hidden in secret places, many people in their mind think in terms of money. But you know what I’m thinking of? In terms of ancient Jewish anointings that are going to be released. Now you have a new CD that we’re making available called “The Watchman.” I’ve known you many years, and this has, without a doubt, the strongest presence of God on it, out of anything that you’ve ever done. Tell me about this first song that we’re going to have you sing.

PAUL: This first song I co-wrote with some friends, and it’s a reaction song. We call it “Adonai.” And the reason I say it’s a reaction song, I just got so disturbed, or moved, in my heart because today we keep hearing about Islam being a peaceful religion. We hear about this one god. You know, there are three great world religions. There is the kingdom of God and then there’s everything else as far as I’m concerned. And I was so disturbed about hearing “Allah is god, he has no son.” We wanted to create a song that declares “The Lord, He is God.” Like the prophet said on the top of Mount Carmel, “Choose this day whom you’re going to serve, but the Lord…” Is it the Lord or is it these other gods? And when Israel decided to follow God, then all of the goodness broke out. So this song is a declaration song: The Lord, there is no one but Him. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. His son… Interesting Sid, that that beautiful gold dome that we see in Jerusalem; everybody equates it with Jerusalem; is a Muslim mosque. And around the top of it in Arabic, it declares “Allah is god and he has no equal. He has no son.”

SID: You know, his song, Adonai, when Paul sings it, he sings ancient Hebrew words: Baruch HaShem Adonai: Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. He is declaring that when the Jewish people say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, open your eyes: Messiah is going to be here.

SID: Sid Roth here with Joan Hunter, what happens after 25 years of marriage to a minister, four beautiful daughters, and the minister says I’m in love with another man, and he’s homosexual and the marriage is done. The Hunters are devastated, well Joan Hunter was in that situation and when we took the break I said what about those four girls, and she said I gave them to God. Well Joan, what did you do when perhaps one of your daughters showed all sorts of challenges, you gave them to God, but what did you do, give me an exact instance. 

JOAN: Well they would call and tell me a situation that had happened, and in the natural I wouldn’t have approved of, and they knew better. And instead of going “Now you know better than that,” because that is the worst thing you can do, they need to know your unconditional love, and you love them with the love of the Lord. And in the conversation or whatever, I’d get off the phone and I’d say God, do you see what your daughter is doing, do you hear what your daughter just did? That’s when you know that you have given them to God. And all four of their lives have dramatically turned around. And it’s wonderful.  

SID: Joan, and I promised you by the way, Joan walks in such power, she worked for, how many years with your parents? 

JOAN: Off and on, I still actually do a few meetings for them a year, help them.  

SID: Okay, a lifetime. 

JOAN: Over thirty years. 

SID: Working with a ministry that has seen more miracles than any ministry I know of, boy does she have faith. We had so many miracles happen last time Joan was here, you have got to tell me the story about the 88 year old woman with fibromyalgia, how long did she suffer? She, I asked, does anybody have fibromyalgia, she said yes, and I said how long have you had it and she says her whole life. And I said, I’m thinking in the natural there is no way she could have had it her whole life, she says I don’t remember not having it. And I said well usually fibromyalgia is brought on by a traumatic experience, she said well my brother was shot when I was three, and I thought okay, that will bring it on, that’s for sure.  

SID: But what could she do about it? 

JOAN: And so in talking to her and praying with her and ministering to her, I talked to her about the situation, it turned out that her, I think it was her 11 year old brother had a buddy and the buddy got mad, and the buddy went home got a gun and came back and shot him point blank right in front of her, and for 30 years, I’m sorry, for 85 years she had walked in unforgiveness, 85 years, not only that but had walked in pain, had nightmares every night, every night, tormenting her for 85 years. And I ministered to her and I said, I said, you know you need to forgive him, and so we did, you know, we went through the forgiveness process, and I mean it was as if her face was all wrinkled at 88 and as God, as she forgave him, she looked like 50, just like that. And I said I didn’t ever pray for fibromyalgia, I said how do you feel because fibromyalgia you are just in pain everywhere, she said I’m healed. And that was Saturday morning and by Sunday night, I mean each service, and I was there for several services, each service people would go in, she didn’t even look the same, she absolutely got a total complete makeover, a facelift and everything and she is doing great. And she said if I had only known it had been that simple.  

SID: It is that simple. There is going to be a power encounter that you are going to see, a demonstration of the Living God, are you ready? Just before Joan prays I heard that there is someone with your right leg and you have a pain, it’s the upper part of the leg, you have a pain there, I tell you it is gone. In Yeshua, that’s Hebrew for Jesus, In Yeshua’s name. Joan, would you pray for people, especially for those who are having problems with marriages, problems with children, please pray for them.  

JOAN: Okay, what we need to do and you heard me mention just a few minutes ago about laying your children on the altar, and the same things goes with your mom, your dad, your spouse, your job, your boss, your brother, your sister, whatever it is,  

SID: Listen, the whole modulo, the whole everything  

JOAN: The whole kit and caboodle, and what happens is if you pick them back up off the altar you’ll start feeling pains in your neck and your shoulders, and those are just signs, oh I’ve picked up the worry of finances again, you know, Father I lay my finances on your altar. And it’s very important to do that, and just repeat after me, and after the program you will have time to do this more, and go through a list of people and just say Father, I lay my daughter, and then say their name, on the altar, I give her to you, I repent for trying to do your job and the job of the Holy Spirit and Father I give her to you in Jesus name. And then like women, you know, just repeat after me, Father, I lay my husband on the altar, Father, I lay my husband on the altar, Father I lay my husband on the altar, it usually takes about eight times for the women to finally do it for the first time, and just say Father I lay my husband on the altar, I’ve tried to make him into the Godly man that I want him to be, but Father, I release him to you, I’ll be the best wife that I know and to love him unconditionally, but Father, I release him to you. And you can tell when you pick him back up because when you start to hurt here and there and it’s like, and things aren’t going really well, and it’s amazing, because people will say I laid my husband on the altar and he completely changed, no, what changed is your attitude toward your husband because it is not your job to fix him, it’s God’s job to fix him.

 SID: In other words, we do our job and god does his. 

JOAN: And let him do his. 

SID: It’s so simple you need help to get confused, Joan. 

JOAN: Yes, I know that and we try to make it hard, it’s like with healing, and people say well you pray for somebody and in a minute they are healed, well the Bible says that you are to lay hands on the sick and see them recover, comma, and it doesn’t take longer than that to see them recover, you are going to cast out devils in my name, comma,

 SID: We only have a few seconds, look in the camera and pray especially for spines right now.  

JOAN: Okay, father right now in the name of Jesus I send the word of healing in Jesus name, I command those spines to line up in Jesus name, I command the deterioration of that spine to be reversed, I speak an entire new spine in Jesus name, I course the breast cancer, the prostate cancer, any cancer in any body that is watching right now in Jesus name. Father I thank you for the kneecap that was replaced the last time I was on, but Father there is more knees that need to be replaced in Jesus name, I speak a new rotator cup in Jesus name, new wrists, carpal tunnel is cursed in Jesus name, arthritis is cursed in Jesus name, Father I thank you the upset stomach,  

SID: It’s done, it’s done, it’s finished,  

JOAN: In Jesus name, amen.

 

SID: Sid Roth here with Joan Hunter, put yourself in this situation, married 25 years to a pastor, four beautiful daughters, and one day your husband says, I am going to leave you for another man, devastation, hurt, shame, Joan, you handled it, I’ so pleased, but what about those four girls, they’re devastating, I mean you know they are devastated, you hurt for them more than they are hurting, but they are hurting, what did you do? 

JOAN: They didn’t understand, I mean they are just so hurt, and here is their, you know, their father preaching from the pulpit that it is wrong and yet the deception that he had actually been doing it all along. And that was harder than everything else. 

SID: How does someone, curiosity, when someone is involved in sin, how are they preaching that it’s wrong, what is going on inside, is it that the heart is so deceived? 

JOAN: Yes, that is one of the things, and he, it’s selfish, and its just flesh, it is driven by selfish flesh. And one of the things he said in the process of divorce, he said, “What can I say, I have just been a very good actor for all these years.” you know, acting in the pulpit, acting at home, acting in the marriage, and you know and things like that, and you know it was a good act, you know I mean he would have won the academy award with no problem on that one. 

SID: Okay, all right, the girls, tell me about them, what’s going on with them? 

JOAN: Okay, three of them are married now, and one of them is waiting for the best husband in the world, and

SID: Now take me back to right after the devastation. 

JOAN: The, we would, at the house we would just, they would get home from school    and we would just cry you know and that’s all that we could do, I mean we lost, we had to move out of our house and move into a really small house as in comparison to what I could afford and what he could afford, and it was just unbelievable  

SID: Did they, but the way, she also came down with cancer, did they know you had this cancer? 

JOAN: No. 

SID: Was it life-threatening cancer? 

JOAN: It could have been, I mean if you don’t get healed of it, yeah, for sure, but God healed me of it.  

SID: Okay, so what did you do with your children, did you send them to counseling, did you, how do you, Jewish people call it, make them (Jewish word)  

JOAN: We couldn’t send them to the pastor cause that was the Dad you know, and then, even six years ago, even today people, the average person has no idea how to deal with somebody, whether it had been me or whether it had been the children, how do you deal with somebody like that, what can I say to help you? They don’t need counseling from friends, they just need to know your love, tell them that you love them, tell them that you are praying for them, don’t try to correct it.  

SID: Fine and good, but what did you do, I want to know what you did because there are a lot of people watching right now that have problems with their children, maybe not in such a devastating circumstance as Joan had, but you’ve got some real problems between children and parents, what did you do so they can do it?  

JOAN: I tried to fix them, I tried to make them well, I tried to get them healed, I did everything I knew to do, especially having been in the ministry for so long, I did everything to fix my children, and you know and say, now you know better, you are not supposed to do this, well what did that do, it brought rebellion like you have never seen, I mean I’m just like, everything that I said you need to do this or stop doing this, it just caused the adverse effect, and I mean it just kept getting worse and worse and worse, and a lot of the things they were doing they were just doing to cover up their pain, and so I said, God, what am I going to do, I can’t fix them? He goes, dud, you know in so many words, it was just like okay now are you going to let me take care of them? And I said God, I repent for trying to do your job, I know you and the Holy spirit can do a whole lot better than me, I give You my children, I lay them on Your altar, and I said Father I lay charity on Your altar, she’s Yours. And then I’d say Father I lay Spice on Your altar, and I would say Melody, and then Abigail, and I said God, they are Yours. The more I try to do, the more I try to do as a Mother, as a minister, it just caused adverse reaction, I mean really bad adverse reaction, and I gave them to God.

 SID: Joan, that sounds too simple, it sounds too simple. 

JOAN: Well, it’s not a one-time thing, I’ll tell you that, cause then situations happen, and all of a sudden if you start feeling pain in your neck, in your shoulders, more than likely you’ve picked them back up, because if you’ve got a child that weighs say 130, 200 pounds, depending on the child  

SID: But you told me the bottom line, they’re (Hebrew word) today. As Joan was speaking, God began to speak to me, there are going to be such physical healings when we come back, I have been interviewing people that have demonstrated miracles for, close to thirty years now, I have never had so many reports and letters of people being physically healed as I did the last time Joan Hunter was my guest, don’t go away.

SID: You know I can’t think of anything worse, you are married 25 years, you have four beautiful daughters, and then you find out that your husband is having a homosexual affair. Joan Hunter, I mean, you lived it, that is just the most, I mean you have got your children, you’ve got, did you love your husband? 

JOAN: Oh yes, and one of the most difficult things to do was to go through a divorce still loving the person you are divorcing, that was very difficult. And in addition to that, we were pastoring a church. 

SID: That, that make it a lot more complex, how did the church react? 

JOAN: it was very devastating on them too; I mean they had lost their best friend, their pastor, they, you deal with deception, you feel, you know a lot of them feel they just can’t trust a pastor. 

SID: Did he go into counseling to get rid of this problem, or? 

JOAN: No, because he didn’t consider it a problem, he just considered that that was just the way that he was. 

SID: Wait a second now, he’s a pastor, it says in the Bible that those that are homosexual don’t go to Heaven, that’s not my opinion, that’s what the Bible says. 

JOAN: And I totally agree with you on that and, but the common comment is grace. Now I know that God, you know, has a lot of grace, that’s for sure, but I call that, you know I just call it a grace abuser, you know and just trying to push way beyond what is really in the Bible. And you know when you have a situation like that and it comes up, you know it just talks about a variety of things, of reasons that will keep people from Heaven, and, but when you are living in it, and you tend to just ignore that. 

SID: Did you lose your faith in God when this occurred? 

JOAN: Many times people have asked me, “How long did it take you to come back to the Lord after that?” I got saved when I was twelve, I’ve never left. 

SID: And for those that are not familiar with Joan Hunter, her parents are know affectionately as “The Happy Hunters,” Charles and Frances Hunter, they have probably witnessed more miracles that any person in this generation on earth, and Joan, you grew up in that ministry, you witnessed all those miracles, so when you saw all those miracles, why didn’t you just say, “Well, God, just heal my husband?” and why wasn’t he healed? 

JOAN: Well, when you find out you just don’t always just okay forget it, this is over, but after praying and interceding and you know, standing and believing and counseling and different situations, realistically for many years when I thought there was a problem, but then when he realized, or you know, made a decision that that was what he wanted to be, that’s when I released him. 

SID: Okay, you’re divorced, you have four children, I assume the children are pretty devastated too? 

JOAN: At that time yes they were, that was many, many years ago at this point. 

SID: You actually got sick on top of all of that. 

JOAN: I was divorced on Tuesday, which in itself is extremely devastating, after 25 years, you know you are co-dependent, you know you are twenty years old when you get married, you don’t know anything but that, and you know have to go to court, and divorce, and I was sobbing, they almost had to postpone the divorce because I couldn’t even answer yes or no because of the tears, because it just about killed me, and then the following Thursday I was diagnosed with breast cancer in my left breast. 

SID: How can one person handle all of this, how could you Joan? 

JOAN: God, you know I had to make the decision to go, I mean, you know realistically here I was dying in my heart and then I was dying in my body, I had a great opportunity to check out, and the doctor said I was 

SID: What about those four girls? 

JOAN: If it wasn’t for them I know I wouldn’t be here today. 

SID: So, all right, how serious was your cancer? 

JOAN: God healed me very quickly, and because of the healing in my heart, getting divorced, having to, because worry will bring on sickness, unforgiveness will bring on sickness, and different things like, that, and I believe that that’s what opened the door you know to my sickness, and when I walked forgiveness, when I got rid of bitterness, when I got rid of the worry of what is he doing, while I’m at work, what is he doing, who is he with, and those different situations you know you try to trust but you know otherwise, and when I got rid of all of that, within, very, very quickly my breast cancer left. 

SID: I know you can’t answer this but I’m going to put the question to you anyway, what percentage of people that have illness would probably receive their physical healing if their heart was healed?

 JOAN: I would say 100 percent realistically, but about my estimate in the natural, is about 85 percent of all diseases are brought on through some kind of stress, not being able to handle stress correctly, like worry, depression, hopelessness, all that kind of stuff, it, you shut down emotionally, and so your body starts to shut down like the immune system, it just starts to shut down.  

SID: I have to ask this question, how does someone forgive, you know what I have   found, when you love someone and they wound you, in the natural now, your love turns to hurt and then to hate and then even some, to murder, how did you stop that progression or are you still dealing with it? 

JOAN: Well the latter part, I know that God did not call me to a prison ministry so, so   we just stopped way short of there, no, you just want to go “errrrr” you know, because not just for devastation for me, but the effect that it had on the children, like you can mess with me but don’t mess with my children. 

SID: I understand, I got that. 

JOAN: Don’t mess with your daughter, you know, and so that was hardest, that was hard, you know I knew that I would go on, and I would survive, but when I saw the devastation of the children, that was the hardest part for me to forgive. 

SID: Have you had occasion, now it’s how many years ago? 

JOAN: Over six years. 

SID: Okay, in this six years have you had occasion to bump into your ex-husband at a social event?

JOAN: Weddings, yeah, two weddings and 

SID: All right, when you bump into him at a wedding of all things, 

JOAN: Our daughter’s wedding, our daughter is graduating from med school in a couple of months, and 

SID: Okay, now between the two of us, is there some churning that goes on inside, is there some hurt that goes on inside, is there some unforgiveness, unresolved things that goes on inside of you? 

JOAN: I can honestly say no. 

SID: How could you do that? Tell me your secret. 

JOAN: God has just so freed me, He’s healed my heart. 

SID: I mean the Bible says, wait a second, the Bible says we must forgive, we understand that, but to forgive in all of our human side, our emotions, the bubbling over, the blood pressure, the you name it, how do you, how did you do it? 

JOAN: The you name it, it’s the difference between, you know if I were to give you this cup and yet pull it back, the difference to really giving it to God and letting God deal with it, none of us truly forgive, none of us truly deserve forgiveness, but be the grace of God. And unforgiveness is a poison that we drink hoping that the other one will get sick. Now if I held it against him, it wouldn’t affect him at all, it would only start killing me, and when I 

SID: You know that is so profound, would you say that again. 

JOAN: Unforgiveness is the poison that we drink hoping that the other one will get sick, and if I did not forgive him it wouldn’t make any difference to him, I’m the one that would be affected. 

SID: How about you, where do you stand on forgiveness, who has wounded you? I mean if I had x-ray vision and could come right into your home right now, I would see your heart, and when the Bible refers to the heart it’s your spirit, and I would see scars there, how would you like to get rid of those scars? How would you like to be free? Don’t go away, I want to find out what happened to these four daughters that were involved in this. I mean could you picture the shame going on? We’ll be right back after this word.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Warren Marcus. And I believe because the Bible says, you all can prophecy, so I got a man that has equipped thousands of people to move in prophecy. He has actually got a school. His name is Steve Thompson and at the school he takes the most beautiful young people who have never prophesied before, starts activating them, and I said, “Steve, get some of those young people, take people out of the audience and then we are going to test the results. Take a look.

 

Gentleman in the black shirt, yes sir, if you could stand up.

And your name is?

Duane.

Duane, the first thing I felt for you is that you really are

a man of passion that when the Lord gives you something

you are all the way towards it and that you have such a

faithfulness to the Lord that He can entrust things

to you and it is like it is already settled.

When He speaks it to you He can consider it done.

And because He knows that you are going to jump

over every hurdle, every obstacle that the enemy puts

in your way, you are going to get it done.

You are one of those kind of guys.

I saw you as a – working like with a Special Forces unit.

What that spoke to me was that you were put together

with an elite group of people, they all had unique talents

and abilities and you specialized in different areas,

but as a unit you made a complete team.

And what I saw was you going out from like a home base that

you would have one specific mission that you were to

accomplish during that time, you would go out in maybe a

geographic region, it may just be to another part of your

city, you would accomplish that mission during the

season then you would return to home base and

await the next instruction from the Lord.

I also felt like there was an increase in your personal

evangelism ability, I saw it happening two ways, both in

prophetic evangelism and also in power evangelism.

I believe you are not going to have to browbeat or talk

somebody into the Kingdom of God, but that you are really

going to be one who, like Steve’s talked about,

you’re going to be able to connect to the Lord, you’re

going to hand out these things in the market place,

you are going to have words of knowledge where you are

going to tell people stuff that they could not possibly

have known, and so they are going to drop their

walls down and realize that God is real.

I also saw you laying hands on people and seeing

them healed, seeing them restored, and that you

brought them into the Kingdom that way too.

Amen that’s a good word.

Is that accurate?

The healing, everything, it’s dead on the money.

It’s good; it’s a good word, thank you very much,

appreciate that.

 

SID: Everyone that we talked to Warren said, “Dead on the money.” I mean these kids, these young students if they can do it, you and I can do it. But you know the thing that impressed me the most is that we had a man by the name of Robert Heidler, who Chuck Pierce is in his congregation, and Robert Heidler has been given revelation on the Biblical festivals, Messianic

Jewish rabbi’s that were there said they have never heard the prophetic understanding of the festivals like Robert Heidler, let’s take a look.

 

We know all about our traditional holidays.

I mean we know about the 4th of July, nobody has to teach

us that on the 4th of July we are supposed to have a picnic

and watch fireworks, that has just been part of our lives.

We know about Thanksgiving, nobody has to tell us

that you are supposed to eat turkey and you are

supposed to watch football.

We don’t need lessons on how to celebrate Christmas.

But our problem is we don’t understand

the feasts of the Lord.

We don’t know what they are, most of us don’t

even know when they are, And we have no idea

how to celebrate them  in a way that will allow

us to enter in to the purposes of God.

Now like most Christians today, I grew up not

knowing anything about the Biblical feasts.

From studying in seminary I knew the Bible devoted a lot of

space to talking about a series of feasts, but I had never

taken the time to study them, I figured they were just for

Jews, just for Old Testament, and so for the first time in

my life I began to seriously study the easts of the Lord,

and I was amazed at what I found.

I found first of all that God had given us literally

a detailed yearly calendar.

He had a cycle he wanted us to go through every year.

I saw that the feasts were not just for Jews.

Zechariah promises blessings for gentiles

who will observe the feasts.

Jesus and the apostles followed the feasts.

Key New Testament events took place in the

context of the feasts.

I thought this was very significant, you know Jesus

could have been crucified any time of the year,

but it just happened to be on Passover.

And He could have been raised from the dead

at any time it just happened to be on first fruits,

the first fruits of a new creation.

The Spirit could have fallen any day of the year

but it just happened to be on the feast of Pentecost.

What that told me is this, God celebrates the feasts.

God keeps His own timetable.

 

SID: I wish you could see all of this. Warren I am so excited because each person that I selected was selected by God to give an impartation for the next move of God’s Spirit on planet earth.

 

WARREN: And you know I believe Sid, that as people get this whole series and start playing it for people in their homes, invite people over, there is literally going to be house fellowships started, because the teaching in here is so powerful and impactful that it will change the lives of people forever.

 

SID: Listen, I had a Messianic Jewish Rabbi that has traveled the world with T.L. Osborne, and he has picked up that same anointing. I want you to see the power that is on this Messianic Rabbi by the name of Curt Landry.

 

In verse 107:20 it says,

“He sent His word and healed them.”

I want to make a decree right now,

it is His word and he heals us.

He is the healer.

The healer is in the house tonight.

You don’t have to look any farther,

you can be healed, He is here to heal you.

And deliver them from their destruction.

In James 5:13 it says, “Is any afflicted?

Let the afflicted one pray.”

And in the Greek that word afflicted translates out to

trouble, persecution, hardships and tribulation.

And see that’s what comes from sickness, it is not just

being an illness, sickness causes dis-rest, trouble, it brings

destruction into your money, into your relationships, into

your jobs, into your homes.

It hinders you from making car payments,

it steals your food, it’s from the devil!

And you gotta cry out, “Lord, take this devil, I didn’t get

saved to get sick, I got saved to be healed in Jesus Name!”

 

SID: The healing anointing just from that little clip, the healing anointing is just pouring out.

Imagine what happens when they listen to the whole series. They are getting all the ingredients, I want you to be laying hands on the sick, I want you to be prophesying, I want you to be soaking, I want you to be one of the five wise virgins, not the foolish ones, but I want to tell you something, Warren, my next guest, her name is Kathy Walters, and she literally, the presence of God was so strong on her that four men had to hold her up and I was worried about the men, don’t go away, we will be right back after this word.