SID: How could you know that? How could you make a statement to a mother, that her son is dead, dead, dead? And I guess if he ever for some miracle became alive, he’d be brain dead.

JASON: Because I saw life in his eyes and I knew those two angels. I’d seen them before and I knew it. I walked out, we said, I mean he is walking out of the hospital and we held onto that. The next morning I came back though and it was about 9:00 AM and walk in and he’s still in bad shape. I mean, he was still in a coma. Doctors are still saying there was no hope. I walk up to his bed and I said, “John, this is Pastor Jason,” and we’d actually never met. I’d only been their pastor for three months at this point.

And I walked up to his bed and I said, “John, this is Pastor Jason.” And tears started rolling down his eyes and I said, “Do you want me to stay with you?” And he shook his head yes. And at that moment I felt like the Lord said, as a shepherd, there are times that I call pastors to leave the 99 for the one. And that’s what I’m calling you to do. And I stuck by his side. We saw God do incredible miracles. He walked out of the hospital completely healed and whole 16 days later.

SID: How old is John Smith now and what is his health like?

JASON: John Smith is 19 years old and he was cleared by all doctors 40 days after that. He is perfectly fine.

SID: There’s a word that God taught you. and most people don’t know what you’re really… They know what the word means, but they don’t know what you’re referring to. God said positioning. Did he speak to you with an audible voice?

JASON: And audible voice. Because I was wrestling with this. I go… And even before John’s accident, I was wrestling with reading the Book Of Acts, seeing people in incredible need today knowing God could do miracles that we read about in the Book Of Acts and throughout the New Testament, but not seeing it today. There’s a disconnect. And I was praying, “Lord, do what you did in the Book Of Acts today. We need you to show up. People need breakthrough.” And a week later, John Smith happened. And as we walked through that process, I go, “Okay Lord, I know we can’t dictate the outcomes of miracles. We can’t be really focused, but what do we need to do?”

And I started this study through the scripture of looking at every miracle and realizing that God always chooses to partner with us when he’s about to do a miracle or breakthrough, whether that be in finances or health. He always uses a human component. And we need to position ourselves for a miracle. And the greatest perspective is… It’s like a baseball analogy. You’re out in right field, out in the… And you don’t know when a ball’s coming, but when it comes, you got to be ready to catch it. And that’s the best way of how to position ourselves, I think, for a miracle, to be ready for what God wants to do.

SID: I want you to take me through how Joyce Smith positioned herself for her son’s miracle.

JASON: Yeah, definitely. When she walked into that room, she’d heard the report, she knew exactly what the doctors were saying about John, that he was dead. And in a split second, because I believe that if she would have made a different move, if she would’ve said, okay, I’m just going to allow my son to die, he would’ve been gone. But in a split second… And so many times it’s our split second response when we get that call and life turns upside down, what we do in that split second will dictate if we’re going to position ourselves for a miracle or not.

When Joyce walked into that room, she didn’t have to think about it. It was inside of her. She grabbed his feet and she prayed, “Holy spirit, bring my son back to life.” There was not any other talk. And what I always say is that when we get into a moment like that, what we put inside of us is what comes out. And that’s why it’s so important to, before it even happens, before we’re even in a situation, to be putting that stuff inside of us to know. And what stuff am I talking about? The scripture, God’s principles, about how do we position ourselves. That stuff inside of us so that when that moment comes that we can do what Joyce did and position ourselves and believe God for a miracle.

SID: God told him so many things.

JASON: Yes.

SID: In addition to how to position yourself? God told him to ignore certain things. Imagine, ignore them. We’ll be right back.

SID: I have Hrvoje Sirovina here from Germany. Hrvoje, You went to my favorite country, Israel, and you go in the Garden Tomb and you are praying about resurrection. Explain.

HRVOJE: Yeah. I took a group of 70 people to Israel and Jerusalem just to experience, the land, the Holy land. And we went to the Garden Tomb because we prayed for the anointing of the resurrection power.

SID: But then guess what? He had a chance to use it.

HRVOJE: The very next day. We didn’t know what’s going to happen. But from the Damascus Gate half way to the Via Dolorosa we encountered … There was a group. So they opened up a aisle for us and we passed through the aisle. But then we were surprised there was a man lying down on the street. And there was a Polish doctor, and I asked him “What’s happened?” And he said he fell from the roof and he died around 50 minutes ago. He said, “No pulse, we are waiting for the ambulance.”

SID: Did you remember that prayer you prayed?

HRVOJE: Afterwards, actually, because we immediately started to do what we knew to do, is praying in tongues, in the spirit. So we prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and suddenly such a sweet smell arose, and I knew the Holy Spirit is going to do something. So we prayed for a couple of minutes and suddenly a voice came out of this man. He was like … but fell back again. And after a while he did it another time. And at the third time he woke up, rose, took his mobile, said to his friend, “Call my wife and say everything is okay.”

SID: That’s just standard though, of Israel. Raise the dead, blind see, deaf hear. Most people don’t even know about redeeming your bloodline. What is it and why is it so necessary?

HRVOJE: Redeeming your bloodline is about actually living in the natural what we are already in the spiritual. Jesus did everything he could for us to live a supernatural life, a blessed life, a life full of peace, health and everything. But actually we don’t see that every time. Actually when I traveled the world, I see so many people who believe in God, who really believe in God, but yet still struggle in life. And we see that even with David where David said in Psalm 51 when he said, “I was brought forth in iniquity and my mother conceived me in sin.” Which means even though he believed in God, there were things in his life because of his ancestors, and he had to deal with that. And that’s where he said, “Wash me Lord. Wash–”

SID: Now if David had problems because of his ancestors, what about us?

HRVOJE: It seems like–

SID: Look how many more ancestors we have.

HRVOJE: That’s right. So Jesus said on the cross, “It is finished.” And there is nothing he could add to that. It is finished. But Paul said, “I am not perfected yet.” Paul the great apostle who followed Jesus with all his heart, he said, “I am not perfected yet.” Which means there are areas in our lives where we still, what Jesus did on the cross, have to apply in our own lives so that we can experience everything what he released on the cross.

I’ve written this book Redeeming your Bloodline actually in the German language first. So after I released–

SID: It was a best seller in Germany.

HRVOJE: Actually yes, I was surprised how good is going to sell because we didn’t promote it. So the first week a gentleman told me a story, how, about his heart issue. And he was a Christian for many, many years and he said he broke curses over his life. He prayed all the prayers he knew and he’s had still heart issues, unregular heartbeat, and all these things, which also his ancestors and his parents had suffered from. And he said after he prayed through the prayers of my book, he immediately got healed and had no heart issues at all.

SID: Give me another testimony.

HRVOJE: I like the testimony of another gentleman who was in a … He actually was in a severe accident where he severely damaged his head. And he fell into a coma and the doctors, they already said, “We can’t help him.” So in desperation, his wife called. Actually called the church where I serve as a senior pastor and asked for help. So we told her, “Come in, we are going to pray with you the way we pray.” So we prayed and we prayed through the bloodline of her life and also of his life. So the doctors … A day before the doctors called her in and said, “You have to say goodbye to your husband because there is nothing more we can do.” After we prayed the prayers and redeemed and cleansed her bloodline, the very next day he started to recover, he woke up and he’s well and alive.

SID: You talk about bloodline. You’ve mentioned it. Bloodline prayer, what exactly is that?

HRVOJE: Bloodline prayer. What we see in the Bible when the Bible speaks about salvation, we actually see three tenses of salvation. Which means there is a salvation in the past. Salvation which is proceeding in the present and a salvation which is in the future. So when we receive Jesus into our heart, we got saved. Everything what he did belongs legally to us. Every blessing, health, peace, everything belongs to us, but that’s salvation in the past, which means our spirit got saved and now eternity is secured for us. But concerning our soul, that’s a proceeding redemption, a proceeding salvation where we got cleansed. Because yes, we believe in Jesus, but yet still we sometimes get sick, still sometimes get angry, still sometimes have issues with forgiveness and bitterness. Which means, hey, there is still work to do for us in the process of perfection.

SID: Sometimes people still have addictions.

HRVOJE: And people sometimes have addictions, which means that they try hard. They try to believe in God but something is holding them back. Actually Paul spoke about that in Romans 7:19-20 where he said, “I do things I don’t want to do, and the things I do want to do, I don’t.” And he said, “It’s not me. It’s the sin in me.” Paul, who was saved, believed in Jesus and yet he still said, “There is still an effect of sin in my life.”

SID: Venner, you also talk about distraction. Tell me about that.

VENNER: This is what happens when you’re distracted. When you’re distracted, he fills our mind sometimes with good things. It’s what I call busy-ness. And in that place of busy-ness we get pulled away from what is really important. And so we lose focus on our warfare because of something else that came in, something in life. Life happens, doesn’t it? On the earth. And so we have to pay attention to what we are paying attention to and we must keep first things first. So when I’m distracted, I lose focus. When I lose focus, I lose energy, I lose strength, I lose momentum. And when those things happen, I lose.

SID: What if you’re in a really big challenge and nothing’s happening? What is your advice?

VENNER: If you’re in a big challenge and nothing is happening, and I know this by the spirit of God. I began to hear this word for families that you have children that got up and walked away from home and the anguish of your heart as a parent. I see parents, you’ve been up for several nights, you’ve been praying and you’ve just been saying to the Lord, “Even if they don’t come home, I want to hear from my child.” I decree right now and I send a word to your child wherever they are, and I decree that in the next seven days you will hear from your child. I decree that they’re going to pick up the phone and they’re going to call you. And I even speak now and I activate a cycle of reconciliation between you and your children.

And I decree that even that place of bitterness that has come in and it has divided the family in certain ways, I decree now that there is a healing coming into your family for there’s been a longing in your heart to be reunited with your child. And I decree by the spirit of God, I activate this now and I send a word to your child, it feels like a son. I send a word to your son and I say, right now, tonight you’re going to begin to dream about your mother and your father and there’s an awakening happening in your life, and you’re going to get up and you’re going to make your way, because you’re in another city, you’re going to make your way back home. There’s going to be a time of reconciliation. There’s coming, I feel, I can feel the love of God that is going to just drop when all of you meet in the same space and place.

So I just say to you now that your prayer has been heard. No matter how long you’ve been praying, no matter how long you have been waiting, I want you to always know that God is a good, good father. He said, “I watch over my word to perform it.” He said, “I am not a man that I would lie. Neither am I the son of man that I would repent. If I have said it, I will surely bring it into manifestation.” And I decree that this is your season of manifestation now.

God spoke a word to me. He said, “My church has been a place that has been in a cycle of manifestation, movement without manifestation.” And I decree that right now. That’s what I saw in the spirit was a revolving door and we had been going around the same issues over and over and over again. And God says, “That cycle of movement without manifestation is over. It is a season of manifestation.” I activate miracles in your life. I activate the supernatural in your life. And I decree that your ears are open in a greater way to hear the voice of the Lord, even those of you that have a seer’s anointed. And because you saw in the spirit when people didn’t understand what you were seeing, you retreated into the cave and you said, “I’m just not going to share my experiences with anybody else.” I call you from that place of hiddenness and I say, it’s now time. Prophets, come out of the cave. Prophets, come out of the cave. Prophets, come out of the cave now in Jesus’s name.

SID: Now, you may not get a supernatural phone call like Venner did to know the Messiah, but consider this your phone call. Do you want to know God as much as he wants to know you? Yes, he wants to know you more than you want to know him. I don’t mean religion, I mean relationship. I mean intimacy. I mean your best friend. Repeat this prayer after me and mean it to the best of your ability out loud. Dear God-

Audience: Dear God.

SID: … I’m a sinner.

Audience: … I’m a sinner.

SID: … and I’m so sorry.

Audience: … and I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe.

Audience: I believe.

SID: … the precious blood of Jesus.

Audience: … the precious blood of Jesus.

SID: … washes away all of my sins.

Audience: … washes away all of my sins.

SID: … and I’m clean.

Audience: … and I’m clean.

SID: And now that I’m clean.

Audience: And now that I’m clean.

SID: … Jesus, come into my heart.

Audience: … Jesus, come into my heart.

SID: Live inside of me.

Audience: Live inside of me.

SID: I want to know you.

Audience: I want to know you.

SID: I boldly proclaim.

Audience: I boldly proclaim.

SID: … Jesus.

Audience: … Jesus.

SID: … you’re my Lord.

Audience: … you’re my lord.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: I’m here with Tommy Combs. Tommy, you said something that is music to my ears. You said that the glory of God is here, but I didn’t realize that not just the glory of God in the studio right now but the blue mist is here. I know it. When was the–

TOMMY: The glory.

SID: … first time that you saw the glory of God?

TOMMY: At age 10, the doctors had diagnosed with a liver disease that destroyed my liver and-

SID: Was that life-threatening, terminal?

TOMMY: Life-threatening with three to five days to live.

SID: Boy, that’s life–

TOMMY: Threatening. On Sunday morning, the blue mist … my mother was praying, my grandmother’s praying for me. The blue mist rolled into my hospital room, rolled into the room. It’s so powerful, it’s so powerful, knocked my mother to the floor on one side, knocked my grandmother to the floor on the other side, out in the Holy Ghost, as I would say, out in the Holy Ghost of God. Jesus walked right up to my bed. He came out of the blue mist, walked right up in the smoke.

SID: Wait, were you afraid? I mean you’re a young kid. You’re dying.

TOMMY: I’m sitting up, a 10-year-old sitting in the bed looking up and there’s Jesus in front of me, that I’d been taught all my life about Jesus. Now, I’m looking right at him, beautiful eyes, beautiful. I received a brand new liver in one second by the power of God. Give God praise. Hallelujah.

SID: Then at 14, your entire life changed. What happened?

TOMMY: At 14, in a small church service of about 80–

TOMMY: … people in our local church, and my dad and some other men would come into the church and sit there. They were coal miners from a Walker County, Alabama, in a coal mining business. The blue mist rolled in at the end of the service, during the altar service when the man of God made to call for salvation. The blue mist came into altar.

SID: You realize, as you’re saying this, I can feel the presence–

TOMMY: He’s coming.

SID: … of God increasing as he’s talking.

TOMMY: People would come to the altar, raise their hands in the blue mist, fall into the power of the Holy Ghost. People were healed…

TOMMY: … people were delivered, people were saved. But the main thing that happened, my dad walked down at altar crying and said, “Save me, Jesus,” and gave his life to Jesus Christ when the blue mist came in. An encounter with God changes everything in your life when we get in that glory presence of God.

SID: You like to teach on what the scriptures, especially the Old Covenant, have to say about the glory. Pull out a couple, a few.

TOMMY: Let’s start with Adam. Adam. Every afternoon, Adam would get in God’s presence, the glory. The glory was there in the garden and Adam. Then, we go seven. Seven men from Adam was a man named Enoch. Enoch got so much glory of God he just walked into heaven. Just walk with God and God took him, Enoch. Moses is the man. I mean, Moses…

TOMMY: … was the man. Moses was in God’s presence. His skin was actually penetrated. They had to put the shield over his face with a cloth. The glory of God was so strong on the day that Solomon dedicated the temple that the priest could not stand, the musicians cannot stand. I’m telling you that is going to happen again. It’s going to happen again. We’re going to see it big time happening when everyone in the glory is in the presence of God. Peter in the glory of God … I want so much power on me and you and this audience and everyone watching us today that the glory of God comes so strong that we just pass by people to get healed like Peter’s shadow.

SID: You know what? I don’t see it happening now, but this is real to me as if it’s happening right now. But, tell me about that meeting you had in Bolivia.

TOMMY: We were in Bolivia and a small congregation of about 80 people. We’re just having a great worship service. Then, the blue mist came in like the smoke, the kind of glory as I call it. The smoke came into the room, and God said, “You want to see a double portion?”

I said, “Yes, sir, I’d love to see a double portion. Anything you want, God, I’m with you. Come on, show it to me.” The blue mist rolled into congregation. Everybody went out, Sid, everybody. Listen–

SID: When you say went out, people don’t understand that word.

TOMMY: Let me.

SID: Explain.

TOMMY: That’s a good term for me. Everybody fell under the power of God in the blue mist. Three-year-old children fell on the power of God, and 80-year-old women fell under the power of God. Everybody in God’s prejudice, prostrate on the floor worshiping God because the blue mist came in. That’s the most powerful scene I’ve ever seen where the whole church, and that’s going to also happen where we see whole congregations in our churches, in our synagogues, everywhere. When the blue mist comes, it’s just going to change peoples’ life by mass numbers, not three or four of us, but mass numbers are going to be changed.

SID: Oh, you know these big football stadiums, they weren’t made for football. You know what they were made for? The glory of God.

TOMMY: That’s right, the glory of God.

SID: But, Tommy, you said expectancy is very important.

TOMMY: You got to expect the glory. By faith, we are saved; by faith, we accept Jesus Christ; but we have also by faith, got to expect the glory. We’ve got to expect it. That’s number one. You’ve got to expect it.

SID: Well, I can tell you, that I’m good on. I expect every meeting I have that glory to show up.

TOMMY: When we expect the glory, we’ve got to be like Moses. Moses said, “God, show me your glory.”

“I can’t, Moses, it’ll kill you.”

Moses didn’t stop. You know what he said? “God, I want to see your glory.”

“Moses, I can’t show you my glory. It’s going to kill you.”

You know what he said? “God, show me your glory.”

He said, “I’ll tell you what I’m going to do for you, Moses, I’m going to let you put your face in a rock and I’m going to walk behind you.”

Moses, I’ll use the word peak out, okay, Moses, face in the rock, he looks like this. God walks behind him. He sees the glory of God so strong that he writes the first five books of our Bible. He saw the history of God. The Bible says, “He saw the backside of God,” he saw the hinder parts of God. No, no. He saw the history of God. God showed him the history. When Moses walked by him, he saw the history of God. Moses was a man, I’m telling you. That kind of … We have to be persistent like Moses was persistent. God, show me your glory.

SID: I’m expecting. I’ll tell you what, Tommy receives a word from God about the greater glory and the type of miracles that we’re going to see. I’m expecting them on this show. Be right back

SID: How did you find out about being born-again, if no one told you?

KEVIN: I was I was on assignment to at work, and they had a pin on; one of the guys had a pin on, and it just said, “Born-Again” on it. And he told me “Well don’t you know that everyone has to be born-again?” And I thought I because I went to church, that I was a Christian; but he said, “No; there’s an experience, where you have the Spirit of God come in you.” He said and he told me to go home and read the Book of John, so I did. And in that, I found out that you needed to be born-again; and so I knelt down, and I said, “Lord, if You will deal with me like you deal dealt with the people in the Bible, I want to give my life to You right now. And I would even give up my nomination to the Air Force Academy; I would do whatever You called me to do.” And so that’s how that happened. And then with the Holy Spirit, two months later, I was driving in my car, and it was snowing, and my car went into a spin. And I recovered from it, but the other people on the other side did not recover, and so they were coming right at me. the experience happened that I yelled out for God for help, but when I did, it was in another language, but it was fluent! And I felt the heat of God, the oil of God, and the car seemed to go right through me the other car. It did not hit my car.

SID: Did the were there anyone out was there anyone else in the car, with you?

KEVIN: No there wasn’t.

SID: Well how about how about the other person? Did they come back and say what “What is happening?” [laughs]

KEVIN: No; I never saw them again! I just kept driving. And I told the Lord, after this outpouring, I said, “Lord, I’m never going to worry; I’m never going to doubt You again,”,

SID: Hmm!

KEVIN: because that’s how strong the Presence was. And ever since that day, I have spoken in that language every single day, and it builds me up in the Spirit.

SID: Okay. 1992; fall of 1992, you’re just having a little bit of dental surgery; you’re getting rid of your wisdom teeth. And you’re unconscious,, and all of a sudden you’re out of your body. And all of a sudden, Jesus is there, and He begins to teach you. What was the first thing He said to you? Can you remember? The very first thing He said.

KEVIN: Well I was looking at my body, and trying to figure out how I could get back into it. And I couldn’t, and I so I went around the room

SID: Were you scared?

KEVIN: At first I was kind of

SID: I would have been! [laughs]

KEVIN: but I, when you’re outside your body, and you end up in the Presence of

SID: I’ve never been in that [laughing] situation, so I don’t know.

KEVIN: The Presence of the Lord is very strong; and, when you’re a Christian, you have no hindrances; you feel the Spirit of God very strongly. I was at peace; but I did want

SID: That’s got to be great, to be shed of this body this Earth suit and be pure spirit! I can’t think of anything [laughing] better!

KEVIN: It was it was beautiful, because I didn’t have any doubts, fears. I didn’t have any hurts; I couldn’t feel any of the pain that was in my body; I felt completely free. But I did feel the need to tell the surgeon, and, I poked him, I yelled; he could not hear me, even though I could feel him. And so I went around to the nurse, and I I told her to revive me, and she didn’t’ hear me. So I went to the anesthesiologist, and she couldn’t hear me either, and I realized that I’m not going to go back to my body, unless a miracle happens. And so I’m standing there watching my body, and watched them work on me, and all of a sudden

SID: That’s got to be a weird feeling!

KEVIN: Yeah.

SID: Very weird! [laughs]

KEVIN: It’s it really shows you how out of control we are. Unless God actually told me to go back to my body, I didn’t have permission to go back. And

SID: Hmm!

KEVIN: and it shows you that you don’t really have control of your life, and, it really teaches you what you don’t know. I experienced and so my body started to glow, and so I stepped back, and I thought, “Why is my body glowing?” and I

looked down, and I had a body!, so I couldn’t’ figured out why my physical body was starting to turn into this beautiful body, and I realized it was my resurrection body. And

SID: Hmm.

KEVIN: my face transformed, and I looked like myself, but I was at a perfection state; and so it took me back. And, I was glowing; and then I knew, by the Spirit of God, that that was my resurrection body; that I was going to get that back. And I saw the most beautiful details of my face; I looked like an angel; and so I just simply, without hindrance, I just said, “I look beautiful!”, because I was perfection.

SID: Mm.

KEVIN: [music] And so, when I said that, I heard a man’s voice which was another man’s voice that was not accounted for; it was behind me.

Keith Zadai: I look beautiful!”

KEVIN: And this voice said, “This is what you look like to Me all the time”; and I turned around, and it was the King of Glory; it was Jesus Christ, the Messiah. And He walked up to me, and greeted me.

SID: What was He dressed in? Was He dressed in a robe? Was He dressed like you? [chuckles]

KEVIN: It’s amazing; when you meet Him, you don’t want to look at what He’s wearing.

SID: [chuckles]

KEVIN: I didn’t even look down to see if He had sandals on. All the things you

SID: Hmm.

DAVID: And I said Lord Jesus. You know why? Because when I talk about it you say I want that and when you say you want that that desire draws Him closer because that desire is a form of worship. And so I was in the room and I shut the door and I said I’m not leaving Jesus until you touch my life, until something happens. And I remember I had my fan in my room was on because it got very warm in that room. My fan was on. My Bible was open. My light was on so I can read the Bible and I had music playing in the background, soft worship music. And so I had set the atmosphere and I was ready to do everything that I knew to do to seek the face of God. So I go in and I start praying and I remember I got going and I was excited. I was filled with zeal and I had made that ultimatum very clear. Lord, I’m not leaving until You touch me. And so I’m praying and I’m praying and I’m praying and one hour goes by and nothing happened. How many of you know when you’re digging a well every shovel full is dirt until you hit water?

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

DAVID: And so I’m digging and I’m saying Lord, I’m praying. I’m praying. I’m praying. And that first hour was so discouraging to me because often I would do that. I would say Lord, I’m going to pray for one hour. I would pray. I felt like heaven had invaded my life and I would look up and maybe on the clock ten minutes had gone by. And how many of you have experienced that?

AUDIENCE: All of us!

DAVID: It’s because that’s the flesh. It’s what I was doing was in the flesh. I was putting forth my effort. So the second hour goes by. I said okay. I’m going to reach for the more melancholy aspects of my emotion and I’m going to cry. I’m going to weep. I’m going to seek Him. And what we do here you see it’s we try to guilt God into a response.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

DAVID: Lord, don’t You hear me? Don’t you see me? Don’t you love me? We say Lord, don’t you love me. Can’t you hear me and we say it because we’re trying to manipulate Him in a way that He can’t be manipulated. He doesn’t respond to that. Do you know when I get a call on my cell phone and the call starts going bad I’ll often tell the person on the other line I’ll say listen, you’re not coming in clear. The call is breaking up. And what do they start doing? Most of the time they start yelling so that I can hear them. I say no, no the problem is not the volume, it’s the connection.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

DAVID: When you’re praying we try to exude emotion. We exert our effort with emotion. You’re raising the volume. The volume’s not the issue. It’s the connection. And so that second hour had gone by where I’m praying that way and guess what happened? Nothing! Then I reached for the more aggressive, the more, the more, the more spiritual. I had read books on spiritual warfare. I’m mean I’m telling you if there was an adjective I took that adjective, attached it to a demon and rebuked it!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

DAVID: The spirit of this, the spirit of that, the spirit of this goes, the spirit of that goes! And I’m praying against all of the things I could think of praying against. I’m going back to when I was 5. Lord, if there was anything when I was 5 years old blocking me. I’m doing the generational deliverance, all of these different things that I knew to do and I had got aggressive and I got angry and I said I’m not going to be you know subdued. I’m not going to be held back in the name of Jesus! And it’s good to pray like that when it’s spirit-led but I initiated it.

AUDIENCE: Wow.

DAVID: So finally that third hour goes by and nothing happened. And now, I’ll be honest with you, I started to regret my ultimatum.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

SID: Now, Diane found out that her father had cancer and was in a very bad way. But again, with all of the abuse you went through, I don’t know how one human could go through all of that from her dad. Why did you really want to see him?

DIANE: Well, I didn’t want my father to spend eternity in hell and you know, no matter what he did not do for me and what he did to me, I knew because of the way I was raised, I knew that I needed to forgive and it was an ongoing thing every day, you know, to keep forgiving him and then to pray for his salvation. And God has a way of working with people and doing in them and for them what we cannot do, to keep them in that place until they receive salvation because God’s word is not going to return back to him void. So I just kept standing on that word and just kept declaring that he would receive salvation. Of course, I never knew that I would be the one to lead him to the Lord.

SID: Three weeks later, your father went into hospice to just, the dying process and you went there, but you didn’t go in by yourself, did you? You had the manifest presence of God surrounding you. You knew it. But how do you know others knew that?

DIANE: Well because people commented when they came into the room. They could feel something in the room. One of his golf buddies came in and he said, “I feel something in here.” And so it was definitely a tangible … The nurses, they felt something in there. And in fact asked me if I would pray with them for something that, for some title deed that she didn’t get to her home. And so I said, “Well, for us to pray in agreement, I need to ask you, do you know Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior?” And she said, no. And I said, “Well, would you like to, so we could pray in agreement?” And she said, yes.

SID: And by the way, it was the glory that caused her to ask the question and then to respond the right way.

DIANE: Yes, yes. It was so tangible. And when I led this first nurse to the Lord, my father, who had not been around people raising their hands, lifting their hands to the Lord, as he was lying in the bed, he opened his eyes and he lifted his hands up to the Lord. And you know, that was just a glorious thing to see because he had never been in that. And then she was so excited about what God had done for her, the next day, and I just have to share this, that God supernaturally moved because the next day when I saw her, she said, “Can I come down to your room in a little bit?” And I said, “Well, sure.” And she said, “I got the papers in the mail today.” And so I know that angels went and got those papers and put them in her mailbox. And then she said, “I have a friend,” she said, “and can we come down at the end of our shift tonight because she wants know Jesus too.” And so, yeah.

SID: So, did she?

DIANE: And she did. And so they came down. They came down to the room and I was going to pull the curtain, and my father’s 85 year old roommate, he looked over because I was going to pull the curtain and he said, “No.” He said, “Not pull curtain.” I thought, “Oh my goodness, God is moving. He’s fixing to get Jesus too.” And somebody watching right now you’ve been praying and you’ve been standing in the gap and I want to encourage you to not give up and keep standing on the word of God because God is faithful to his word and he will do what only he can do. You just rest in him, in his word and trust him and stand on the word that your loved ones or your best friend or whoever it is, that they’re going to receive salvation.

SID: That 85 year old roommate, I can just picture him. He’s in his bed. He’s preparing to die. You know, it’s a hospice. And he’s observing, but there’s more than what he’s observing. He’s feeling something. And what does he say to you?

DIANE: When he took my hands, he said I was an angel that God had sent. But when he looked up, he saw a light. He said, “A light.” He said, “I see a light.” And I told him, I said, “Julio, that is Jesus. Jesus is the light and the way in the truth.” And so he looked at me, and this was the most amazing thing I’ve ever heard from anyone that I’ve led to the Lord. He said, “I have been waiting for this day all of my life.” And I thought, wow. And so when I led, I said, I asked the Lord, I said, “Father, how could a person know to say that?” And the father spoke so tenderly to me, and he said, “Because every person that I created was born to know me.”And so, we’ve got to not be afraid and step out and lead people to the Lord. Not be afraid to ask people if they know where they’re going to spend eternity. Because we’ve been praying for the harvest for a long time, and the harvest is ripe. And so we just have to be willing to ask people, where are you going to spend eternity?

SID: Would any of this had happened if you didn’t choose to forgive your father?

DIANE: I don’t believe it would have. In fact, I’m almost sure that it would not have done, but forgiveness, it opens the door up and invites the glory of God to come and to reside. And then you walk in that love and God’s going to move and things are going to happen. It’s a very powerful thing to know that we can be a vessel for God every single day. And there’s somebody that needs Jesus. There’s somebody that needs healing in their body. There’s somebody that’s going to feel the tangible presence of God and there’s going to be somebody that’s going be aware of God’s glory. And that’s what we’re doing is releasing the kingdom.

SID: Open yourself up in the audience and at home to this presence of God. It’s just getting stronger and stronger and thicker and thicker. And as Diane said, if you’re that person that needs to know God, now is the acceptable time. Repeat this prayer after me and believe it to the best of your ability, out loud, you at home and in the audience repeat after me. Dear God.

Audience: Dear God.

SID: I’m a sinner.

Audience: I’m a sinner.

SID: And I’m so sorry.

Audience: And I’m so sorry.

SID: And I believe the blood of Jesus.

Audience: And I believe the blood of Jesus.

SID: Washes away my sins.

Audience: Washes away my sins.

SID: And I’m clean.

Audience: And I’m clean.

SID: And now that I’m clean.

Audience: Now that I’m clean.

SID: I boldly say.

Audience: I boldly say.

SID: Jesus, you are my Lord and savior.

Audience: Jesus, you are my Lord and savior.

SID: Come inside of me.

Audience: Come inside of me.

SID: Let me come to know you.

Audience: Let me come to know you.

SID: And experience you.

Audience: And experience you.

SID: And spend forever with you.

Audience: And spend forever with you.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: Now, when we return, I want to find out about the thick glory cloud that came into Diane’s bedroom and God instructed her how to stay in the glory. After this instruction, people started saying to her, “The top part of your body just fades out and we only see the glory cloud.” Want to find out what were God’s instructions? I know I do. Next.

SID:Well, I have one of my favorite guests here, Clarice Fluitt. She’s known affectionately as the rhyming prophet. But this is ridiculous. Our last show before we did this a woman had a seizure, we prayed for her. And then we called the hospital and an ambulance came and while it was coming Clarice, you were waiting in the green room and God spoke to you. Tell me what happened.

CLARICE:He said, “You better go get her.” So I went out into the hallway where she’s coming in the wheelchair and I just said, “Hold on, just give me just one minute here.” And moved everybody back. And I said, “Now, I’m going to pray for you and you’re going to be fine. You are fine.” And I said, “I command the healing power of God upon you and every plot, scheme, plan the devil had, we take authority.” Anyway, I’m doing all that I know to do. And I said, “God sits in the heaven and laughs his enemy into derision. The devil did the best he could, but he lost again.” She starts laughing, joy comes in, sickness goes out and we’re just… And I said, “Why did you come here?” She’s from out of town. And she says, “I came to hear a rhyming prophet. Just came to hear a rhyming prophet. I said, “Well, you’ve got a personal one-on-one.” And I said, “And the word of the Lord become loud and clear, and out of you, Miss Susie, God’s going to appear. You’re healed. You’re thrilled and shielded.” Anyway, she’s going, oh, she’s excited. She got more than she asked for.So they hauled her out. I said, “How are you feeling?” She’s feeling good. They hauled out in a wheelchair. I went back to the green room and the next thing we have an escaped victim. She’s out of the wheelchair and she comes into the green room and then I’m telling you, it was amazing here. We sit down. I hugged her, I loved on her, and I said, “Listen, God has chosen you. You are one of those at the beginning of miracles, we are seeing massive miracles.” We talked about the tsunami of miracles and right in the middle of us teaching what to do, we activated the infallible, inerrant word of God. And God, oh it’s so wonderful. And she’s back in the room now. She’s here with us. Hallelujah.

SID:That’s what TV is made for. And I’ll tell you what Clarice, I am fascinated about your brand new book on re-scripting your life. What do you mean by re-scripting your life?

CLARICE:Well, we’re people making choices and you can choose to be healed, thrilled and chilled, or you can choose to be oppressed, suppressed, repressed, depressed, possibly home possessed. You’ve got the free will, it’s a decision. I have made a decision to help people to understand the kingdom of God is a kingdom of words that must be voice activated. And I’m teaching people how to say what you want. Magnify. Whatever you magnify, you create. The scripture says, “As we behold him, we are changed from glory to glory into what we’re looking at.” So we were taking on the image and the likeness of God. We walk with the full armor of God, the devil doesn’t know us from God. I’m excited about it. So it’s time that the church be glorious.

SID:You talk about a strategic partnership between our words and faith and favor.

CLARICE:Well, the thing is, you can say, I’m sick. I’m down, I’m out. Nobody knows the troubles I see. All around me is death, doom and misery. And you literally create… Whatever you honor, you draw to yourself. And when I say honor, I mean if you’re going to give word to it, you’re going to give verbiage to it, then it’s because that’s what you believe. For out of the abundance of your heart, your mouth is speaking. You may say, “I believe that Jesus is the Son of God,” but I want to remind you, dear, the devil believes Jesus is the Son and God it’s not going to get him healed or filled or anything. It’s just you’ve got to be able to say what you want. The will of God is always creative, and the word of God activates the creative will of God. So we are ambassadors on this earth releasing the word of God. So our superior air power, which are angelic, they are responding to the word of God. You and I are a launching pad of the infallible inherent and awesome word of God. This is a great day to be alive in the kingdom of God.SID:Now, you learned early on. You went to a mutual friend of ours, Kathryn Kuhlman.

CLARICE:Yes.

SID:And you went to one of her services, and you learned the power of a proclamation of God’s word over you. Tell me about that.

CLARICE:Well, Sid, it was an amazing thing. What happened is that I was sick. I had tuberculosis, I had Lyme disease, I had all kinds of crazy things that were going on in my life and I didn’t know… See we say, “Well I’m saved.” I thought that meant I didn’t have to go to hell. I believe Jesus was the Son of God. I didn’t know that all the extras that went with it, like deliverance and prosperity and healing and all these good things. So I had heard that there was this woman that prayed for the sick and my husband assured me that God didn’t use women. So what he feared came upon him.SID:That’s pretty good.

CLARICE:We went to this meeting and there was about three or four thousand people there and I’d never seen anything like it. Kathryn Kuhlman comes out and she is a complete absolute anomaly to anything I’d ever seen that was religious. She had red, fuzzy hair and she asks,”Have you been waiting long?” And I thought, Oh God, we’re going to lose George for sure. But I went on up there. I got up there and she just walked over to me, you all, and she took her hand, this is proclamation, this is decree. If there had been a premium on ignorance, I’d had several trophies. And she put her hands on me and she said, “Dear Jesus, such as I have, I give it to her.” And I landed 15 feet away from her.

SID:Now, did you really go all the way…

CLARICE:Yeah. Oh yeah. Went all the way around the room. This guy, Dino plays the piano and I’m under his piano now. I’m under the piano, the sweetest place in all the world. So I was healed in that moment. This was in 1971 and I was healed from that moment to this. And that impartation of praying for the sick, having healing, having delivered, having, have you been waiting long? I’m out there to get a hold of you if you’ve been waiting long.SID:That was her favorite statement. But let me ask you this, Clarice. I read something about Dr. Jerome Stowell that is astounding. Explain that to me again.

CLARICE:Well, Dr. Stowell was an amazing scientist and he was atheist and he was all into science. He had an assignment to be able to measure the amount of energy that would be coming out of a human brain in a dying state. They were in the hospital and they set all their equipment up, and he had a microphone and in all of his instrumentation to measure all of these activities. And this woman was dying, she had brain cancer and they knew that it was terminal, that any minute she would be gone. And so she began to pray. And when she prayed, she prayed in the Spirit, she prayed and she forgave everybody and she thanked God and she says, “And I’m so excited that I know the next face I see is going to be yours.” And when they see that, they heard click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. And they looked at and over 55 times the energy that was that was on the machine, that an entire broadcasting company could put out, she had surpassed that, putting out that kind of energy, praying in a dying state to the Lord. And Dr. Stowell saw that with his scientific eyes, in his atheistic beliefs…

SID:That when she was in the dying process…

CLARICE:When she was in a dying process and she was praying and she was praising God…

SID:That the power was the strongest…

CLARICE:The power of God, the word [foreign language 00:09:06]. We were just moving in grace and power and glory. And that brought such conviction upon Dr. Stowell the atheistic scientist, that he became a Christian. We are a sign and a wonder. We are a sign and a wonder.

SID:When she was praying in tongues, this the point I want you to get, this woman is dying. She is worshiping God, she is praying in tongues and the amount of energy that was measured scientifically was how large?

CLARICE:It was 55 times greater than the broadcasting system that would go around the world.

SID:That would turn the world upside down. Now, what happens in hell every time we speak the opposite of God’s word? You’ll be shocked when you realize how it affects your entire life. Be right back

SID: Now, Hakeem, you talk about an atmosphere for healing. And then you talked about your aunt who was in a coma, and she was so bad off, they were going to pull the cord. That’s curtains. Tell me about that.

HAKEEM: Yeah. My family came to me and basically my grandmother and my mother said that our aunt basically fell into a coma and she really had a couple of days to live. The doctors just basically gave up on her. And so for me, I didn’t really feel like that was the will of God, personally, and so they basically said that they were going to pull the plug and the family was the one that’s going to have to make that decision. And I began to create an atmosphere by releasing decrees of healing and just reciting the word of God on healing.

And I said, “Father, I want you to cause in my family to be awestruck of your power, that you are a sovereign God and that you are a life giving God. And so it is not in their decision. It is in your decision. It is not in their will. It is in your will, and prove yourself to them.” And when I began to pray, to intercede, and I thought a release after I prayed, I thought the release, Sid, I was praying all night.

So the next morning, this was a Friday when I was praying, the next morning on a Saturday, my mother and my grandmother came to me and basically said they went to the hospital and when they went they saw my aunt was out of the coma eating applesauce. So what I know was, at the same time that she came out of the coma was the same time I was praying and I thought the release.

SID: Tell me what your prescription is?

HAKEEM: My prescription is the commanding and confessing. It is for 90 days, take the prescription, take the whole thing. And oftentimes, when there’s prescriptions we take one or two and we feel better the next day or three days later. And then it comes back. No, we have to take the whole prescription that is prescribed, even as a doctor gives us. And so [it’s the] same in, spiritually speaking, we have to do the same thing. So, I prescribe a 90 day outcome solution to receive your healing, as you recite, as you speak forth by faith, your healing commands and confession, I believe that you will be healed and you will be touched by the glory of God when you finish the 90 day process.

SID: Now you say it’s really not sickness or disease that destroys us. What destroys us?

HAKEEM: What destroys us is lack of knowledge. And so if we don’t know that we have authority, if we don’t know that we have power to command demons to go, spirits of affliction to go, and we don’t know the authority that Christ has given us, then we will … it’s lack of knowledge that’s caused us to perish. So God wants us to know the word of God. He wants us to know the truth. And so that is my assignment is allowing people to understand the truth of God’s word concerning healing.

SID: Now, you teach a lot, you like to, about the Roman centurion.

HAKEEM: I like that story because this centurion had authority, understood authority, and went to authority. That might sound like a little rhetoric over there, but he went to Jesus who was in authority. And all he said was, “Listen, I don’t need you to come under my roof. All I need you to do is speak the word of God. If you just speak the word of God by faith, he knew that his servant will be healed.” And so oftentimes we have to make sure that our words in faith line up to what we speak.

We have to believe it before we see it. We have the see—usually we think it’s the other way around. We have the “see it to believe it,” but I believe when it comes to miracles and healing, we have the “believe it first and see it.” And so the centurion basically said, “Jesus, just speak the word.” And when he spoke the word, the person was healed instantly. The same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead resides on the inside of every believer. So if that same power, that same anointing rests on me and it rests on Jesus, then why can I not command? Why not let me operate in the delegated authority Jesus has given us. So right now, every believer, even those who are watching right now, I just even speak right now that this is a season that you arise in authority, and that you arise in power, and you arise in grace.

This is a season that you will not fear, but you will operate in faith. You will begin to be that commander that the Holy Spirit has made you to become in this season. No sickness, no death, no disease, no oppression. We’re no longer bound. You, no more. I say today in Jesus name that you will activate your faith and move in a realm of glory, and you will see people healed. You will see people delivered, and you will see people set free. This is your season, to rise as a commander of the Holy Spirit to release and to receive the healing power that has been given to you. It is your inheritance.

SID: When we come back, I want you to command specifics. You’re a prophet.

HAKEEM: Yes.

SID: Specific people to be healed of specific conditions. And I want you to start with a few that you already testified of, that you’ve had or you’ve prayed for others, but then move into words of knowledge. And I want you to command the people at home, in the studio audience, command of spirit of affliction to leave. Command the pain to leave. Command that disease to leave, and command the glory of God to descend on us. I’m ready. Be right back.

SID: I’m here with Pastor Todd Smith on location in Israel, and I have to tell you something Todd. I’m reminded of something in the Bible. Can anything good come out of Dawsonville, Georgia? That tiny little… how big is that town?

TODD: Our whole city’s 3500 people. Our entire county is only 23,000.

SID: 3500, and how many come to your church of 3500 people?

TODD: On a baptism night it can be up to 2000 people. Yes.

SID: That’s equivalent to almost 2/3 of the population. Why are they coming to this?

TODD: They are coming to our church, Sid, because I had a vision in January of 2018, that as I’m walking across the stage, and I see our baptistry, I’m just in a moment of prayer just walking across the stage, nothing unusual. We’re in a time of fasting with our church. And I look at our baptistry, and I see the baptistry completely empty in the natural, but in the spirit I had my first open vision. And I see the tank full of water and a strip of fire on the water. The Lord spoke to me, “I’m going to baptize people with Holy Spirit fire.” Ever since then, we’ve been baptizing people. After revival hit our church, we started baptizing people and they’re encountering the fire of God in that water.

SID: Speaking of the fire of God, I want to take Todd back. Before you received the baptism in the Holy Spirit and the fire of God, what was your thinking about such things as that?

TODD: Well I was raised Southern Baptist. I thank God for my heritage. I was saved as a Southern Baptist, schooled as a Southern Baptist, started pastoring a church that was a Southern Baptist church. So I was not completely open to the baptism of the Holy Spirit and fire, and even the gifts of the spirit. I wasn’t even open to them. I was more of a cessationist. A staunch dispensationalist if you will.

SID: But you developed such a God hunger inside of you, that led to people praying for you, and tell me about that, for the fire.

TODD: Oh yes, and so Sid I would start reading the Bible. Not that I didn’t before, but I was reading the Bible and I started seeing things in the word of God. Miracles and signs and wonders. How demons were being cast out. How the lame were walking, the deaf were hearing and the blind were seeing.

SID: What do you mean you started seeing that? You’d been reading the Bible for years and years.

TODD: Well I thought that was dedicated to that particular season, you know, when the apostles—

SID: So you kind of almost went over it. That’s old time.

TODD: Yes, I skimmed over it and said, That’s not for us today, that was for them.” And so, but I started reading the Bible and I got hungry. I said, “God what you did for Peter, James, and John, why isn’t that happening in my ministry? Why isn’t that happening in my life?” Now mind you, I was pastoring one of the fastest growing churches in the state of Georgia, Southern Baptist Church. We were seeing tons and tons of people getting saved. We were adding a brand new sanctuary to accommodate the growth, but in my heart I hungered for more of God. I said, “There has to be more.” But I would read the Bible and I said, “I want what they had.”

But here’s what happened. I took my denominational glasses off, Sid, and I said, “Lord, I want to read the Bible as if I just got saved.” Because I was reading the Bible with these Baptist lenses on. And now these lenses that I was reading the Bible through, cost me a lot of money. Private education, you know, seminary education, and everybody in my family and all my friends had matching lenses, matching glasses. But I got so hungry for God and I said, “God, I want to know what your word says.”

SID: So, to make a long story short, you had a group of pastors lay hands on you, what happened when they did that?

TODD: Yes something very interesting happened. You know, a Baptist went to a Pentecostal prayer meeting and that was scary enough for me, because I had never been to that. So, I’m sitting there and I said, “Fellows, I’m ready to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, and they walked around me, prayed, and said, “Be filled with the Holy Spirit.” They laid hands on me. And Sid, my throat tightened. I got… there’s a constriction around my throat, and I stopped the gentlemen and I said, “Listen, my throat… it’s hard for me swallow. It’s hard for me to swallow.”

One gentleman said, “Well Todd, here’s what’s going on. There’s a prayer language that God wants to release through you, but it’s being constricted.” He says, “I want you to denounce all false teaching. I want you to repent of teaching false teaching.” As soon as I did, I said, “Lord, I’m sorry for believing false doctrine. I’m sorry for teaching false doctrine.” Immediately my throat loosened. It relaxed. He put one index finger on my forehead and he said, “Be filled with the Holy Spirit.” And at that very moment, at that very moment the power of God came upon me. The kavod, the glory of the Lord sat upon me, and I fell backwards and began to speak in other tongues.

SID: The Bible talks about Holy Spirit and fire. What is the fire like?

TODD: I believe that the fire of God is the power, the unction of the Lord. An unction not only to do the works of Jesus, but also an unction and a power and fire to walk in purity and righteousness and holiness before the Lord. Because before that, I was striving to be holy. I was striving to be pure. But when the Holy Spirit came upon me, it was another element. It was like it energized me. It was the fuel to allow me to resist sin, and also to walk in an authority I had never walked in before.

SID: You think his misconception on the baptism of the Holy Spirit was major, he found another misconception when he took those denominational glasses off, that most Christians suffer from, that’ll totally transform your life.

TODD: It will.

SID: We’ll be right back.