SID: You know, with all these advances and technology, and Daniel spoke about it, that there would be an increase of knowledge in the last days. And I was thinking an increase of knowledge of God’s Word, which there is. But there’s also an increase in the devil’s information, mind control and things like that. Many people are really concerned. What would you say to them, because this is pretty dark stuff you’ve been talking about.

PAUL: It’s very dark stuff. And you know, I cried out to the Lord for an answer, and the Lord spoke to me, and He said that in the last days as these problems accelerate, that God was going to pour out this supernatural power in an unprecedented force and manner. And as I’m joining you now, I just want to share with you very briefly that, no matter what situation you’re facing, whether you’re religious or not, that right now as you’re watching this TV program, the supernatural power of God is flowing through this studio into your bedroom or living room, or wherever you are, and you can feel it. It’s like a tangible force. It’s like electricity is filling your room and you can sense the overwhelming power of God. I just want to encourage you, that’s going to give you the power you need to live triumphantly in the days to come. But no matter what you’re facing, the Lord simply wants you to just receive His force as He extends it to you now. So whatever you’re facing, whatever challenge or problem you have, at this moment the Lord delights in proving His reality, not with talk, but with power.

SID: And you know what? I can feel this in the presence in the name of Jesus, the power of the Holy Spirit is going to tangibly come into you right now.

PAUL: Absolutely right. So what I want to share with you is as you feel this incredible power and supernatural force flood into your room, and you can feel it, I just want to ask you to make the choice to receive it. So you’re feeling the supernatural force of God with an overwhelming sense that Jesus Christ is touching you now. And we’re not talking about words or hypnosis. We’re talking about the power of God moving through the airwaves through this studio, and it’s flooding your bedroom and your office. And all you have to do is respond to it and God is going to do something absolutely incredible for you.

SID: Pray right now.

PAUL: Lord, I ask in the name of Jesus that whatever problem a person is facing, whether you’re an influential leader or an ordinary person, whatever your need is, whatever you’re struggling with is, I ask in the name of Jesus that power of the Holy Spirit that is flooding this studio would move into your life right now. And in Jesus’ name I say to you that you are experiencing a supernatural miracle. Simply receive it and you will see just how powerful God is.

SID: Have you seen the third great awakening?

PAUL: Yes. I was doing research on the subject and saying, God, is there any hope for America? Because a lot of people are blinded by a dark supernatural force where they think everything has to get worse, and I’m just a victim. And I just want to say to those people, that idea that everything has to get worse and you’re just a victim is a demonic attack. It’s an attack from principalities of powers. And the Lord wants you to rise up. It’s not God’s will for America to be destroyed. But God said, if the repentance is real and my people will truly seek my face, He will send His power upon this nation with such great force it will transform it.

SID: Last word: Hopelessness. It’s a spirit. You get out in Jesus’ name because there is hope in the Messiah.

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Sid: Well, I’m speaking a young woman that’s red hot for the Messiah Misty Edwards. She spends a minimum of a couple of hours every day just worshiping God and leading people in the ministry in Kansas City the IHOP ministry in worship and prayer.  And she has just literally has a spiritual DNA that will cause you to hunger for God more than anything you’ve ever done in your life.  Misty if there’s ever been a time to hunger for God more than anything you’ve ever done in your life it’s now.  Tell me about the dream you had about the oil.

Misty: The dream I had about the oil – yeah I was full time in the ministry; I was going 100% full steam ahead, but I was feeling just an empty on the verge of what people would call burnout.  This was just a few years ago, and I was showing up and trying to lead worship but disconnected I was reading the word of God but I wasn’t feeling the anointing I didn’t want to cry. I wasn’t feeling the tenderness on my heart.  And that’s a scary place to because that opens the door for sin, that opens the door for bitterness, anger all kinds of hardness of heart.  So one night before I went to bed I just got on my knees and I said “Lord, Lord I don’t understand what is going on in my heart You need to help me; tell me where I am and how I got here.”  That night I had a dream and in the dream I’m in my car and I’m speeding down a highway you know it’s pitch black, it’s the darkest night and I am going 100 miles an hour down this highway feeling completely out of control.  And suddenly my car begins to rumble and I looked down and I see the oil light is flashing and I instantly thought of Matthew 25. I instantly knew what the Lord was saying to me that I did not have the oil of intimacy on my heart and I had put my ministry and I had put you know everything that I was doing for the Lord ahead of my relationship with Him. He warned me if I didn’t take the time to actually connect with Him at the heart level and even say “No to a few opportunities, say no to a few things that seemed good in order to have more time or just that heart connect less distraction because the hours was dark and I wasn’t going to make it if I didn’t have a deeper connection.”  So I would link that with the Matthew 25 when He tells the parable of the wise and the foolish.  And I believe…

Sid: But wait a second Misty, you’re doing some wonderful things for God doesn’t that have a priority over just you worshiping God?

Misty: Yeah, I believe it does have a priority, but I think it’s the order the order of priority.  I was doing things that even that even would have looked like prayer but my heart was so far away because I was distracted. It was actually anger, it was bitterness, it was you know things weren’t going the way that I thought they should and it was…you know with bitterness and that jadedness kind of…

Sid: Well, you slipped from being Mary to Martha that’s what you’re telling me.

Misty: Yeah, and I don’t think that Jesus was telling Martha that she should never work, He wants us to work obviously, but it’s the posture of our heart and the order of our priority.

Sid: And you know in Matthew 25 that’s one of my favorite chapters; everything in Matthew 25 but the ten virgins, five wise and five foolish.  The thing that jumps out at me every time I read it is you’ve got to get your oil for yourself you can’t trade on someone else’s oil.

Misty: That’s right and I think I live in an environment of fiery people and it’s very easy to pick up on the rhetoric and the language and you know we are a people of one thing.  But am I a person of one thing; am I connected to the Holy Spirit you know am I going deeper in His word and deeper in understanding?  So it was a real pivotal time in my life when I had that dream and you know I began to study Matthew 25 and it’s actually my life passages because of that.  I continually go back to that.

Sid: When you were a young child you had a favorite song it was called “Resting Place” tell me about that song.

Misty: Oh, I remember singing this from the time I was little I don’t ever remember the first time I heard it where it speaks of Heaven is my throne earth is my footstool from the Book of Isaiah.  “You know where is the house you will build for Me?”  And He basically says I’m not going to dwell in your house that’s made of hands I want to dwell with the hearts of men.  And I believe ultimately He’s actually going to dwell in Jerusalem but for now it’s in our hearts primarily.  I set my goal to become you know Jesus’ so to speak favorite place. His resting place which means to not strive against Him, to not be in disagreement with Him to actually line up my heart.  If we’re in agreement with Him to where we’re at peace and we’re at rest and not only are we His resting place He becomes our resting place; He becomes my favorite place; the place I go for refreshment. Not the place I have to kind of gear up and face Him you know because I’m at peace with Him. That’s become one of my greatest life goals and I’ll get rid of everything that gets in the way of that; any sin, any immorality, any distraction, anything to get rid of that keeps me from being His resting place.

Sid: Well, one of the things I interviewed Steve Hill recently and one of the things he was very concerned about he had his vision of the avalanche of false teaching in the last days.  And one of the teachings he was concerned about was counterfeit grace.

Misty: Yes.

Sid: What’s the difference between the two?

Misty: Oh, I have a lot of energy right now on the counterfeit grace message. I believe it is one of the biggest crisis’ in the church today.  You know I interact with a lot of young people in the worship movement and there’s this doctrine that defines grace as a Jesus did it all for us and so we don’t have to do anything it’s more of a mind game.  We just believe that He did it and it doesn’t matter what we do with our daily life.  I mean I’m making it too simplistic but that’s what it comes down to.  And I believe Jesus did it all as far as our salvation; but there is so much required in walking out that salvation and being transformed into His image.  My pain is that we have lower that the vision of what life in God looks like and the joy and the pleasure and the freedom of holiness.  You know the freedom of transcendence and this dark message of his false grace; I believe it’s a dangerous lie that is hurting specifically our young people and beyond.

Sid: It’s sort of like the scriptures say without holiness we can’t see God. So when you die you’re not going to see God you’re in big trouble.

Misty: Yeah.

Sid: But I like the line that you had and that is that the human heart was 100% holiness.

Misty: Yeah and I think of holiness is another word for transcendence and it’s actually freedom the ultimate freedom.  It’s freedom from greed, from self-centeredness, from bitterness from where we wage war upon our sin it’s about freedom. So what I want to do is I want to give young people a vision for holiness.  Not what the paradigm of what they have of a …

Sid: Some of these Bible schools Misty and you may know it the kids are taught this counterfeit grace message and they’re sleeping with each other and their having babies out of wedlock and what kind of generation if this is the believers are we having?

Misty: Yeah, I know it breaks my heart, it breaks my heart because there’s so much more in life in God.  You know we don’t have to live this way, I believe in mercy you know there’s forgiveness and mercy but we must line up with the truth.

Sid: Okay, your favorite song as a child “Resting Place.”

Misty: Misty “Resting Place” excerpt.

Sid:  My guest Roy Fields is a Worship Leader and he lives to worship God, he feels God pleasure when he worships Him every single time. And he worships God usually in a revival setting.  I don’t mean a Baptist church with a little sign out front saying “Revival Meeting.”  I mean when God shows up. As a matter of fact tell me about the lady who fell off of a roof and was in pain for how many years?

Roy:  Something like 9 years, yeah. She came to one of the meetings, they actually had two people bring her in she was hunched over.  She was crying on the way in and she had been in our service for like 2 hours of worship and she started to sit up a little bit in her chair and then then at the end of the night she had to leave because the pain had come back during the preaching.  And as she was walking out towards the back the lady grabbed a hold of me and say’s “Will you come pray for her please.” I had another evangelist that was preaching for me at that time. I came out back and began to pray with her and I looked her in her eye and I says “When did you feel the pain leave you?”  And she said “During one of the one of the songs you sang.”  And I said “You kidding.”  And I said “Well, look at me now lady, I tell you in the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth you’re going to walk out of this place today.  And I just knew it Sid, and I don’t know how to explain it, I grabbed her by her wrists and I looked her in the eye and I said “Now stand.”  And she stood right up, it was almost like her back had just lined up with everything we said.

Sid: You know it was before that time she was sort of hunched over.

Roy:  She was hunched over, she was actually helped into the meeting, yeah.

Sid: Hm.

Roy:  And she stood straight up and to her surprise I said “I’m going to freak you out, because it was freaking me out.  And so she walked down one side of the hall and back the other.  And later on she had showed up in another meeting in another town a week later and she was completely healed, she came in with her sneakers jumping, showing me that she was completely healed and I said “Wow that’s way more than what you did the night we prayed with you, what happened?”  She said, “When I went home that night I put on some of the worship and I began to just lay in bed and she said “Like a belt I felt like I was folded in half and then snapped 4 different times” and she said “It’s like everything in my body just lined up, lined up.”  She said, “I haven’t been on any pain medication.”  She goes “Roy, I’m totally healed.”

Sid: Roy, you got an insight a revelation of when we worship we’re worshiping with Heaven, what did God show you?

Roy:  There was a time just recently actually I was up top of a mountain at a pastor’s house that he had been the man used in my life to teach me how to pray and how to just worship God and with prayer.  And we just started talking about the subject of Heaven and what if Heaven is all around us, what if it’s not someplace out of earth but it’s just all around us.  And we talked about Elijah how he was taken off in a chariot, and how Enoch just was no more because he was walking with God.  And as I said that I said “You know I wonder if we’re surrounded by witnesses everywhere around us and they’re just walking around?”  Because when Jesus was raised from the dead it says that there were saints of old that were seen walking around as well.  And it was about 9:30 at night and I just said “What if Heaven’s all around us, what if people are listening to our conversation right now.”  Oh, my gosh I try not to share this too many places because it’s a fearful thing, but as I said that I watched everything disappear in front of me, the pond disappeared, the forest disappeared, everything and I saw a mass of people, just regular people standing there saying nothing with their head tilted towards us listening to what we were saying.  And I saw it and pastor did not see it but he felt it.  And I said “Oh, my gosh did you see that, did you hear that?”  And he goes “Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah” And then it just went away and it just disappeared.

Sid: So both of you had your eyes opened to see that we’re surrounded with witnesses and that Heaven is not a million miles away it’s literally a second away, a millisecond away.

Roy: It’s amazing.  

Sid: Okay.

Roy:  He didn’t actually see it, I did.  He felt it, he had hair go right up in the back of his neck.  It was something else, it was something else. I’ve never had that experience in my entire life ever.

Sid: Tell me about the song briefly “Fill This Place.”

Roy:  “Fill This Place,” was a song back in 2000, oh gosh I think it was 2003, I was a Worship Leader for a church, I was getting ready on a Saturday night as I usually would. I would have the team you know rehearse with me and then they went home.  Well, I always stayed to make sure everything was taken care of and I had my guitar on my shoulder and I was just walking around. I had a wireless unit attached to the guitar and a wireless mike. I would walk around the entire sanctuary and I just began to sing.  And I said “Lord, just fill this place God.” You know I really wanted to see revival in my own church. I said “God just touch every heart that comes in you know fill this place let me feel Your embrace.”  And all of a sudden these words started coming, well I began to play that song over and over and I mean the words supernaturally came.  I’m not really a writer Sid, I mean I’m starting to become one, but I’m really just trying to hear, I’m trying to hear, you know what I mean by that?  I’m just trying to hear.

Sid: I do.

Roy:   What Heaven’s sound is, that’s more important than just trying to write something. Out came this “Let me Feel Your Embrace You’ve called me as Your son, and let the fire rise back to You Lord.”  I just played it and for once again it must be my number for about 2 hours it had gone by and I looked at my watch again and I thought “This is amazing, I’ve been here for 2 hours and it feels like 5 minutes.  And that’s how that song was birthed.

Sid: And the presence is so filled, it’s kind of has a double meaning Roy, you said “Fill the place where you’re having the meeting but to me it means, fill my body with Your Holy Spirit.”

Roy: Yeah.

Sid: Okay,

Roy: That is what I meant by it.

Sid: “Fill This Place” Roy Fields.

Excerpt: “Fill This Place”

Sid: When Roy worships he’s just worshiping God but he does it in the midst of a revival. These 3 CDs are just pregnant with the Spirit of God people are experiencing the fire of God, the love of God.  They’re having breakthroughs in every area of their life, they’re hunger, their first love is coming back for God and there’s someone that needs that.

Sid: I have on the telephone Tom Horn, Tom is coAuthor of the book that we’ve been speaking about “Exo-Vaticana.” You’re probably familiar with their bestselling book which is called “Petrus Romanus” and it’s subtitled “The Final Pope is Here.”  Now why did you jump Tom from the book about the final Pope to a book about extraterrestrial things that the Catholic Church are involved in, what’s the connection?

Tom: (Laughing) that’s a great question you know we well we had last year we were doing shows on “Petrus Romanus” we were making spectacular predictions based on all of our research. We actually went out on a limb and said “Pope Benedict would not die in his office, but in fact that he would abdicate the throne and site health reasons for doing so. And we even gave the dates and we turned out to be extraordinarily correct which of course has kept our phone ringing off the hook. But what a lot of people don’t know it that when we were doing shows on “Petrus Romanus” last year several times we did shows in which the question also came up of what people call the Vatican ET connection.  Why have leaders of the Vatican out there talking about chances being better than not that official disclosure of intelligent alien life is going to be made in the very near future. And then it also seemed like they were accommodating some of the theology to be able to embrace that reality.  And so any time we would bring that up those shows would rocket to be the top shows in the world. We did one on blog talk radio with a friend of mine and we only talked about Petrus, that became the number one show in the world for one week. I came back a couple of weeks later and we did a show on the Vatican ET connection also tying it into some of these prophecies and that became the number one talk show in the world for six weeks. And so what we started realizing is that what we had really only considered in the first book to just be a nominal issue the public was connecting with it in a way that they seem to understand or they were more interested in the prophecy of the Pope’s itself was maybe a bit more complex than the average individual could wrap their mind around or care about.  But the idea you know that the Vatican’s spoke person were out there saying official disclosure is coming soon and it’s going to dramatically impact Christianity as we know it. Now this is something people around the world could really kind of you know become alert to and wanted to know about. And so it just seemed the right thing to do that we had to take the next step and do a thorough investigation and the new book “Exo-Vaticana” is actually even larger, it’s over 600 pages in a 6 x 9 trim with all most a thousand authoritative in notes.

Sid: I think that when people find out your background they’re going to understand why God has handpicked you to be involved in this project. Now you have been an Assembly of God pastor for over 25 years.  Tell me a bit about a year after you came to the Lord, what happened to you.

Tom: Well, this truly was a supernatural event. I was a very young Christian, I was so sincerely seeking the Lord’s Sid; I mean I would go to work and I did my job like I was supposed to do but I was in the union so we got breaks every two hours, we got a fifteen minute break and every time I got a break I would be in the backroom in the dark on my knees just seeking God so passionately wanting to be used by God.  And one night something very supernatural did in fact occur in that I went to bed with my wife; the next thing I know I’m standing in front of just what is brilliant, just this brilliant light that I can’t even explain.  I can’t say that I saw a form or an outline or something like that but what I knew in my mind was that I was standing before the throne of God. He had told me something.  The Lord had told me something but now He had said “It is time now for you to return and you won’t remember what I’ve told you.”  Well, my rational mind kicked in right, and I started saying “But Lord wait a minute this is too great this is too wonderful please don’t let me forget.”  And I started dropping, I started falling backwards and this was very, very real to me. At that moment this was happening. I could see Heaven kind of departing very quickly as if you’d fallen out of an airplane you were falling with your face up towards the sky. It was all moving away from me very quickly and all of a sudden I say the roof of my house go around me. I just went through it and it went around me and I hit the bed and at that moment Sid I breathed in very deeply I went “Huuuh” and I literally sat up in bed.  Now I was awake I was really awake and I was sitting there and I heard my wife just bawling her eyes out. I turned and I looked and here was my wife Anita sitting in the bed next to me and she was just crying and crying.  And I couldn’t figure out what was going on and as the moments unfolded she explained to me that she had woke up in the middle of the night and I was dead as the doornail I had no breath, I had no pulse. In fact my body was already cold and she was shaking me and beating on me and this went on for maybe 10 minutes I was completely unaware that it was even happening.  So I was quite literally dead and she was beating on my chest.  She finally gave up, she was just about to crawl out of bed and dial 911 and tell them everybody that her husband died when suddenly I woke up and I came out of it and my heart started beating again.  Nothing like that has ever happened since that time and I’ve always known Sid that the Lord allowed that to happen for my wife to wake up and find me in that condition so that I would never doubt the fact that this was a supernatural event otherwise you know how it is, time goes by and after a while the enemy comes in and he starts telling you “Well, you ate too many chili beans or something; that wasn’t real.”  But the Lord allowed her to find me in that condition and for so many minutes that it was beyond the fact that it could have been coincidental.  But then what happened was I went to my pastor and he really kind of… well, he didn’t know how to deal with it. I was looking for answer, my question was this “Why in the world if this came from God and I believe it did; why would God tell me anything and then allow me to forget it, that just didn’t make any sense right?”  And so my pastor didn’t get it either but I happened to be reading through the Bible this was the first time in my life, I was a young Christian I was reading through the Bible and I happened to be in the book of Job when all of a sudden my eyes fell on this place in Job where it says “In the night time, in deep sleep, in slumbering’ upon the bed then God seals the instructions of the righteous within them to hide pride from man.”  And I saw that verse and here I’m a young Christian I don’t know anything really about theology but the light just went on that whatever this was God had sealed these instructions within me.  And when the times were right down through life if I continued to commit myself to the Lord whenever I was sincerely seeking whether I should go left, whether I should go right; what should I do. God had sealed this information within me and when the time was right He would let me know.  Now that little part on the end that says “To hide pride from man” I really got that later in life that is as a very young believer I would have made two mistakes if I had known where God was going to take me.  First of all if I had known I was going to pastor you know very large churches actually for 25 years being an Executive in the largest evangelical institution in the world; see myself on television and then preaching and then going to these large conferences and speaking.  If I had saw that as a young Christian to mistakes, one “I certainly could have been lifted up with pride and that’s what that text says He does that to hide pride from man to keep us from our errors.  And secondly I would have just made a beeline towards the end gain, I would have just aimed right at whatever I thought God wanted me to do and I would not have gone through all those very important lessons the hard lessons and the good lessons that you learn that temper your steel, your metal as a believer.

Sid: And let me tell you you have to have your metal tempered with what you’re tackling right now; I mean I don’t think you realize how huge this is this “Exo-Vaticana.” But I also see that you had some personal stories with relatives having to do with aliens.

Tom: Yeah, and in fact, you know for the first time in this book “Exo-Vaticana.” I am telling a very large part of one of the biggest secrets that has to do with part of my family. It’s a secret that I’ve kept it buried for my entire adult life. It’s remained sealed partly due to actually a binding agreement a settlement between members of my family, state authorities, and federal investigators. And part of this has to do with a family member who was a nuclear physicist with the uppermost security clearance doing research in a nuclear and biological warfare in General Atomics in San Diego California. At one point he was transferred from General Atomics to Los Alamo National Laboratory in New Mexico where he was involved with a top secret project. The details of which my family was oblivious to; of course that’s the same facility that was founded during World War II as a Covert Laboratory to coordinate the Manhattan project, right.  The allied undertaking to develop the first nuclear weapons but sinisterly it’s also been connected to an alleged secret alien underground facility beneath the Archuleta Meza on the New Mexico border near Dulce. It’s been connected to genetic experiments on humans, UFO’s, even they claim that five alien bodies, extraterrestrial biological entities had been recovered from 1947 at the Roswell crash site and then sent to a safe house there at the Las Alamos National Laboratory; so it has all that history. But it was during that time while he was conducting top secret research with the US government at Las Alamos that one night he came home, now you have to realize that none of these people were living Christian lives, I was the only one at that time in my family that was a Christian.  And he came home and under the influence of alcohol he stated that the laboratory where he was working was involved with the so called “alien agenda.”

Sid: You can’t possibly understand endtimes without these two books they document secret files in the Vatican Library and belief in aliens. “Petrus Romanus; the Last Pope” is the first book.  Hidden in Vatican Libraries.  Nine hundred years ago there was a visionof the next 112 Popes stunning accuracy of the first 111; now this last Pope will take office for the Final Judgment.” The second book literally just off the press not available in book stores exclusively with our ministry is called “Exo-Vaticana.” It documents the Vatican plans for arrival of an alien god with a small “g” from another planet and complete reevaluations of Christianity from the Vatican.

Sid: I’m interrupting this telecast with a special announcement we have a new Pope St. Francis.  According to the Malachi prophecy he had to be a Roman, did you know that this new Pope’s parents were from Italy, Roman.  Not only that he’s the first Jesuit to ever be Pope and as you’ve just heard the Jesuits are involved with the aliens.

Sid: So Ricardo Sanchez is the Worship Leader for Jensen Franklin, and all of a sudden God says “I want you to start your own ministry.”  How did that hit you?

Ricardo: Like a ton of bricks you know we…it’s like leaving a warm bed your enjoying comfort and sleep it’s still powerful I mean God’s moving but at the same time there is something inside you.  There is a call of God inside you that you need to obey above comfort-ability and security, that’s probably a better word to describe it.  So love Pastor Franklin and the church I’m back there every chance I can possibly get. But obeying God it’s sometimes, sometimes a bit nerve racking and intimidating but that’s exactly what we did. Sid when I had left the church I had no income, I had nothing on the calendar to be honest I had 3 dates and this was May.  So I had almost a full year in front of me with no opportunity to generate an income for my young family.  We had a small bit of savings so when I made the decision to enter into full time ministry on our own I just felt this nudging from God regardless of what you see Ricardo I am greater than it, I will supply all your sufficiency for all good things.  And I remember getting out of that meeting going home and just weeping before God, “Did I make the right decision, this is a world changing ministry, Jensen Franklin is an incredible man of God; he’s the most incredible man to work for, to minister alongside with.” And as I began driving I remember this old song “If God be for me.”  I just began weeping, “Who can be against me, God if You are for me, who can be against me.”  And when I got home I felt God’s presence even in my car driving those 6 miles back home.  And when I got home I went directly to my office I didn’t want to tell my wife what I felt God telling me because I was a bit intimidated to  share with her.  I picked up my guitar and sat at the keyboard actually with my guitar and I wrote “I will not fear for I know you’re with me everywhere I go if God be for me who can be against me.”  And the song “If God be for me” was birthed through that moment.

Sid: Let’s hear it.

Ricardo: “If God be for me.”

Sid: Ricardo, we know that God is for us, but what happens when circumstances are out of our control; for instance there is someone listening that has just been laid off from work. They have no savings, there is someone else listening they just gotten a diagnosis of cancer, there is someone else listening right now and their daughter won’t speak to them anymore. This life is a hard life, we know the fact that God is for us but what happens when things are out of control, what do we do?

Ricardo: Such a great question Sid, so many are walking through that.  I firmly believe it’s not what happens to you that defines you it’s how you respond to what happens to you.  I don’t think God is interested necessarily in those that are abusing or those that are confusing you.  I think God is more interested in you and how are you going to respond to it.  Because I believe that all things work together for the good to those that love God and are called according to His purpose.  And if we want to accomplish those things that God has purposed in our life then we have to recognize first and foremost that there is a reason, and regardless of what it is though the enemy comes in like a flood the Bible says that God will raise up a standard against him, though confusion comes in, though pain, frustration, fear and doubt might come in we have to have the understanding and the revelation that God is still God first and foremost.  And I look at even Joseph how his brothers wanted to destroy him because they knew the promise of God that was on his life regardless of what you’re walking through.  Basically threw him in a pit to be sold but I believe it’s the pit that qualified Joseph for the palace.  It was God and all of the Heavens looking at Joseph and I’m a musician so I look at things in the natural and supernatural and metaphors and such but I see Heaven looking over and looking at us.  “What are you going to do?’ How are you going to respond, what is going to come out of your mouth, is it going to be cursing God, is it going to be cursing man or is it going to be praise.  Is it going to be God regardless of what I see…

Sid: Or is it going to be as you like to say in the valley of…. “Why God, why is this happening to me?”  And your focus is on the why and not the solution.

Ricardo: Exactly and God is the solution, the promises of God but it all begins with us understanding that he’s already accomplished it on the cross that we now…there’s a beam on the cross a beam touching earth and abeam touching Heaven.  We now as earth beings have access to the Heavenly realm and we have to grab hold of this truth.  And I believe it’s the waiting; how we wait the sound that we make, the sound with our mouth, the sound with our attitude, the attitude the sound with our character.  I tell you we’re Christians who have the great promise “We’re the family of God.”  And I think sometimes our character and our expressions we’re so negative and we’re so unapproachable and I really believe that we need to grasp the revelation that we have joy that we have good news that the world is dying to know. “If God be for us, who could possibly be against us” that is some good news.

Sid: There is no limits with God… I’m amazed what happened Ricardo in some of your meetings in Mexico, and I mean quick what happened?

Ricardo: We were leading worship and right before Pastor Sergio gets up to speak there’s screaming going on in the crowd and there was an elderly gentleman who got up for the first time in 20 years and begin to walk.  Miracles started unraveling in the congregation where all they have is faith, that’s all they had.  In the midst of worship nobody was teaching it was just environment…

Sid: Now I remember going to a meeting in which Roy Fields was leading worship, and these were people that flew in from all over the world because miracles were going to happen; and there was such an expectancy the air was literally charged with faith.  Roy when you do meetings, where the air is charged with such expectancy and such faith that’s got to make all the difference in the world to you doesn’t it?

Roy: Absolutely, because it’s not about me it’s about Him it’s about Jesus.

Sid: Well, let’s before we find out all the wonderful things God is doing when you worship Him; the miracles that are taking place. I want to take you back as a young man.  Your mother was watching Christian television and got saved and she was a single mom, was that correct?

Roy: Yeah.

Sid: And so at age 8 you become a believer and what memories do you have your mom after she became a believer.

Roy: I always remember my mother taking me to church, I mean any time the church doors were open she was going whether it began the Sunday morning service or Wednesday night meeting. We grew up in the Assembly of God church.  Even when they had special meetings I just remember going to church all the time.  And My mom was always a praying woman, I’d always look at my Mom and she prayed all the time because she didn’t have a husband and she didn’t have you know a father for me.  I was a handful Sid, I was quite a handful; I had a lot of anger in my heart because my dad wasn’t there. I just remember that all the time she would try to do the best she could but it was a pretty tough life.

Sid: So you got saved as a young child at 8 years old and then at 11 you were filled with the Holy Spirit but you felt a call into ministry tell me about that.

Roy: Oh, I’ll never forget that I was in a house a good old fashion Bible study where people had gone to Sunday morning service, but then there was other churches that came together and they just had this Bible study with different denominations and different people.  And they had about 40 or 50 people packed in this living room. There were 5 acoustic guitarists lined up across the front and they were leading worship and they sang this song called “I Lift My Hands” and it kind of went like (singing) “I lift my hands to the coming King, to the great I AM, to You I sing.  For Your the one who reigns within my heart.”  I mean it got to that chorus part where it goes (singing) “I will serve no foreign God or any other treasure.”  And when I heard that all I could tell you is that the presence of God just hit me and I realized I don’t serve some foreign god He’s real and I felt my whole body was just I can’t explain it it was just charged with electricity.  And in that moment I didn’t hear God’s voice I felt Him; in that moment I said out of my mouth I said “Lord if this is what I get to feel every time leading worship takes place or your presence comes I want to do this the rest of my life.”

Sid: Now at that point were you musically inclined?  Did you play any instruments?

Roy:  No the crazy thing is when I was 8 years old my mother wouldn’t let me play an instrument because I wanted to play saxophone, and I had asthma since I was 2 years of age and so she was nervous that I might use up all my breath and not be able to breath.  So I couldn’t play anything; when I wanted to play drums in elementary school about 4 different boys had already taken the spot or the position so I didn’t play any instrument and so at 11½ that’s when I turned to one of the guitar players and I said “Could you show me a chord, I want to learn what you’re doing.”  And he let me play his guitar for like 20 minutes and that was it I was sold, my mother took me to a Salvation Army the next couple of days and we bought this little student guitar. I put on some new strings on that guitar and like a hippy I wrote “I love Jesus” on the back of it. (Laughing) I played it by myself like three chords for weeks because I didn’t know anything else.  I just worshiped in my bedroom and that really started everything for me; it was those moments yeah.

Sid: Well, let me ask you this you said to God “If this is what it’s like I want to be a worshiper all the time.”  Is it like that when you worship, I mean, you’ve been worshiping now for years and years and multiple meetings sometimes even in a day.  Is it still the same?

Roy: (Crying) It really is Sid, it’s the most precious thing that I have. I really don’t have anything else in my life except this presence.    

Sid: You know before we went on the air I was telling you about a movie I saw many years ago called “Chariots of Fire,” it’s a true story about two track stars. And one of the two was a Christian and when he would run he would say “I feel God’s pleasure when I run.”  Would you say “I feel God’s pleasure when I worship God?”  Would you say that Roy?

Roy: Oh, absolutely, excuse me Sid, yeah I would absolutely say that, when I look out and I see the faces of the people and I see them getting caught up in worship it’s like I’m watching a transformation in front of my eyes. I don’t even think about myself I think about that person or I thing about God and how He touched, how He touched mankind.  I can see somebody coming with depression or somebody comes in with pain.  And you get the straggler who comes in the back of the room and he doesn’t want to worship at all he’s got his arms folded and sometimes I’ll say “Lord help me with this service I want to reach that guy right back there” And I’ll  almost change the whole service just to get that guy so that every single person is engaged worshiping God and I feel that approval from God, I feel that acceptance.  And I feel like I have been designed to run this way; that’s the reason I was created.

Sid: But I have to ask you this “You still sound so tender, so sensitive to God how do you stay that way; I mean with all the junk you must have seen being in ministry of humans letting you down etcetera, etcetera. How do you stay so tender before God?”

Roy:   You’re going to make me cry, (crying) “I’m sorry, probably because God’s done such a work in me, and He saved me, and it’s overwhelming to me and I just; I don’t know Sid it’s the grace of God I guess I could come up with an answer and try to make it sound all great but It’s just really the grace of God in my life.  I’ve got a great wife by my side today, you know I had some backsliding years at 19 to 21.  I don’t know at 21 I was at upstate New York and I cried out to God and I said “Lord, I know that You’ve called me and I said “I don’t even what to….”  I got to a point Sid where I didn’t want to be in church anymore, it was so fake to me, everybody else was becoming so fake and so religious and it’s like they weren’t being real. And I said to God I said “I can’t take this anymore.”  And when I was in the world from age 19 and 21 I didn’t like the world either, I remember walking into a bar one time and these friends of mine who said they were my friends left when a guy picked a fight with me.  And I thought “Even they desert me,”  And I had a moment with God at 21 and I said “Lord, I don’t want Your church, and I don’t want the world, I just want You.”  And He touched me, He touched me and I ended up a series of events took place where months later I moved down to Florida. Within in 2 months I met my wife and things just started to change I can’t even explain it, I was leading worship everywhere. And things were happening extraordinarily in meetings people were getting healed and coming up.  And I’m not a typical worship guy who wants to sell CD’s. I am so addicted to God’s presence that that’s all that I care about and you know me Sid, I’ve been in crowds of huge amounts of numbers and even that there’s an excitement but nothing compares to what I feel when I’m in His presence when I worship Him; there’s nothing…there’s no car, there’s no house, there’s no accolade, there’s no title, my life doesn’t mean anything without Him, it really doesn’t.

Sid: Well, it shows when you worship God just like Eric Little when he ran, it showed that he felt the pleasure of God.  Your CD’s are unlike most because of your addiction to the presence of God.  And you actually get songs downloaded to you during services. One was actually exclusive for “It’s Supernatural” and these are not like normal music CDs these are birthed in the midst of a move of God’s Spirit of revival. It’s not just good music it’s impregnated with revival and people experience the fire of God; the love of God, breakthroughs.  As hungry as you are for God still today Roy that’s kind of transferred, there’s a God hunger that is transferred to people which leads to really deep intimacy, signs and wonders; addictions are broken, depression disappears, healings. Now tell me about real briefly in 30 seconds about 4 children in different states saw the same angel.

Roy: Oh yeah and to be honest with you…

Sid: No no I’ll tell you what we’re out of time we’ll pick up right here on tomorrows broadcast.

Sid: We want desperately everyone everywhere to be red hot for the Messiah. If not now, when? I mean this is it. We are about ready to walk into the most outstanding, magnificent, glorious move of the presence of the living God. We’re going to walk into such glory that the prophets they look forward to this day because God once again is going to have mercy on planet earth. I have a woman that has witnessed with her own eyes more miracles than any person on earth, short of her husband Charles. Her name is Frances Hunter. Now Frances just something jumped out at me while I was talking to you in my notes. We are making available your book “How to Heal the Sick.” The reason that we are making this available is because you have spent almost 50 years studying how God heals the sick. Not just studying, demonstrating it and it’s so simple the way you explain this. Also, there’s another reason which we’ll get to in a little bit, but this jumped out at me. It says here you and Charles were in Colorado and there were a number of deaf people, tell me what happened.

Frances: Well I’ll tell you it’s the most amazing thing, and you have to give all the credit and all the praise to God for this. I believe if I’m not mistaken there were 39 people there that were deaf, and 38 of them were totally healed by the power of God.

Sid: Now you hear about things like this in Africa, in China, but we don’t hear that much about it in the United States. That must have been amazing thing for you and Charles to see with your eyes.

Frances: It is it is one of the most amazing things. Just to go down a line and touch people’s ears and then have everyone say “I can hear! I can hear! I can hear!”  You know in conjunction with that, and even this still happened in Panama. Can I tell you another outstanding one? Now this is not ears, this is eyes. We were on the stage we were ministering and suddenly God said “I’m healing eyes all over the place.” So I told the people “As soon as your eye is healed come up.” So it was a mad rush to come up there, and after 500 people had come up and testified “I was blind in one eye, but I now I see in both.”

Sid: Did I hear you say 500?

Frances: 500 in one service.

Sid: What do you want to do put all the eye doctors out of business? (Laughing)

Frances: (Laughing) Yes wouldn’t it be wonderful. You know the funny thing was that I finally said “Didn’t anybody yell, didn’t anybody get healed of anything else except eyes?” I mean that’s a supernatural miracle. Even people who were riding along in their cars listening on the radio were healed. Isn’t that incredible?

Sid: Again, I mean your book just things are popping out at me. Tell me about the time you saw a creative miracle involving a thumb.

Frances: That was in West Palm Beach, Florida. There was a young man there who had had his thumb cutoff. Now this was in a church that did not believe in healing, but after the service was over we said “We would be glad to pray for anybody.” This young man came up, and he was a young man I’d say probably 15-16, something like that. His thumb was so important to him, so we prayed and right there with probably 40 people watching that thumb grew right back on his finger again. Now the funny thing is when it had been cutoff they didn’t sew it slap, it was sort of puckered up. Like a string around it or something. When it grew out he had an absolutely perfect thumb, but no thumbnail. So we prayed and the thumbnail grew right on in front of everybody watching. As you could well imagine the boy was in a circle and everybody was peeking around everybody else to see it, but the thumbnail grew right back on.

Sid: Now let me ask you a question, is that a preview of what were about ready to see on planet earth?

Frances: Yes.

Sid: Especially on October 28^th of this year, is that a preview?

Frances: Do you know what’s going to happen?

Sid: I absolutely do, but no one else does unless you tell them.

Frances: Well I tell you we’re going to see thousands of people, and I mean thousands of people all across the United States. Thousands of churches are going to be open on that day welcoming any sick person who wants to come in. I believe that we will see more miracles on that one day than we have ever heard of in the history of America.

Sid: Now I understand your trying to President Bush to declare that a National Day of Healing.

Frances: We have written a letter to him asking him to declare that, or put his hand of approval on it. If all your wonderful listeners would pray, I would really appreciate that.

Sid: Well listener here’s how I feel like I want to participate in that day. Can I participate in that day?

Frances: Yes you may.

Sid: Okay, here’s how I feel I want to. See I’m an evangelist I don’t need an excuse to walk up to someone to start a conversation about the Lord, it just flows out of me, but the average person does. Here’s what I’m going to do on October 28^th of this year on the National Day of Healing. I’m going to walk up to people and say “Did you know today is the National Day of Healing?” and they’re going to say “No.” Then I’m going to say to them “Yes it is and there are people that believe in God praying so fervently that I believe anything you need in the form of a physical or emotional healing, I could pray for you in the name of Jesus and you’d be healed. What do you want me to pray for?”

Frances: (Singing) Hallelujah.

Sid: I can picture so many people… I mean let’s face it the purpose of a miracle is to believe in the God of miracles.

Frances: Amen!

Sid: The purpose to believe in the God of miracles is to have your sins forgiven by believing Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead. A miracle demands the attention of the person that’s just received the miracle. So I can, and I’ll tell you something else there are people listening to us right now; I can see taking that day October 28^th and saying that’s the day the manifestation is going to occur for what I’ve been praying for all of these years. I believe this… and make that sort of like your point of faith, and on that day…

Frances: Amen.

Sid: There are people listening to us right now Frances that I believe need creative miracles. There are people listening that need new, not just new thumbs, but new legs. I believe people are going to have their leg shoot out even from a stump.

Frances: Amen.

Sid: Is that anymore outrageous than what you just described with the thumb?

Frances: Absolutely not. I believe we will see creative miracles that day, but remember there will be thousands of people praying, and thousands of churches. I hope we can make a simulcast, or whatever it is called so that we can go city to city finding out what these miracles are. Because we are going to have these churches call in and tell us what is happening in their church.

Sid: Boy I can picture that. Listen go talk to my friends out at Daystar. I think they would love something like that, and if they need a Jewish man that’s red hot for Jesus that is sort of the Larry King of the supernatural, I know where they can get someone like that. I believe that if people will start targeting their faith, and read your book; I mean that’s why you wrote it.  It’s so simple anyone can follow it. It’s called “How to Heal the Sick” I think that’s all they’re going to need because we’re walking into this new time in the Spirit of the living God.

Frances: Amen. We’re going to see miracles, and it’s not just people like Charles and I who are evangelists, it’s going to be the, what was that I read there the common, the no bodies, the do nothings, those are the ones who are going to be out there and they’re going to be seeing miracles like they never dreamed of. I also believe this will bring the greatest revival that the United States has ever seen because we are encouraging everybody to talk about salvation and un-forgiveness first of all because you know un-forgiveness can stop a lot of healings. So we’re going to bring them to salvation first, THEN it will be easy to get them healed. I think it’s going to be; I think we’re going to see some of the most unusual miracles, and we’re going to see some unusual healings. Just a couple of weeks ago a friend of ours was going into the hospital to have both breasts removed because she had cancer, and we had a meeting a couple of days away and I said “Don’t you dare go to the hospital till you come to our meeting and let us pray for you!” So we prayed and we cursed the seed and the root of every cancer cell in her body. She went to the hospital in surgery, and when they started the surgery they said “Mrs. Tapscott” it was Betty Tapscott, they said “We’ve got a problem.” Of course instantly she thought it meant cancer throughout her whole body. Five hours later after MRI’s, x-rays, blood tests, everything they said “Mrs. Tapscott we have a problem, we can find no cancer in your body.” I believe there are going to be a lot of people with cancer that day who are going to discover that cancer is gone.

Sid: You know in your book, chapter 15, it’s titled “Casting Out Demons.” You talk about how important it is to understand that cancer is a demon and it doesn’t belong in the body. Even the best defense against cancer you talk about. When it runs through various similar cancer in families and generationally; I mean you explain it all in this book. Again Mishpochah it doesn’t have to be complex. I don’t believe that those fisherman and the first followers of the Messiah had to be that complex.

Frances: No.

Sid: It’s childlike…

Frances: Healing is so simple so many people try and make it real complicated.

Sid: Now my guest Mike Shreve has come out with a brand new book that is absolutely life or death essential.  I mean the future of your children, your grandchildren, your great-grandchildren, is contingent on you following this simple simple advice of this book.  The book it’s literally just off the press it’s called “Sixty-Five Promises from God for Your Child.”  Mike Shreve has researched the Bible and come up with sixty-five promises. He starts out with the promise from the Bible, then he explains it, teaches on it so that your faith will zoom.  And then he has a prayer of which you pray this for your specific child and you write that child’s name in there and I can see you, I can see you right now taking this book putting your children’s name and your grandchildren’s name and maybe praying to or three of them every day.  Can you imagine Mike Shreve if your parents had done that for you or my parents had done that for me I wouldn’t had had to go through the nonsense I went through, I mean it almost cost me my life.  Now I can tell you that is a fact, but it doesn’t have to cost the life of your children and grandchildren you can do something about it.  Mike you talk about a couple of individuals that had praying parents, tell me about them.

Mike:  Well the twentieth promise in the book is the promise that the word God’s given us will not be removed from our mouths nor from the mouths of our seed.  In fact, I can quote that promise “Isaiah 59:21 it says “As for me says the Lord this is My covenant with them My Spirit who is upon you and My word’s which I put into your mouth shall not depart from your mouth nor from the mouth of your descendants, nor from the mouth of your descendants descendants says the Lord from this time forth and forever more.” So God says He’s going to pass this revelation of the word generationally through your offspring.  Now we look back through history and see some people who impacted the world in a major, major way.  Say for instance John and Charles Wesley but revelation that God gave them did not originate with them the revelation of the word that came to them originated within the heart of Samuel and Susanna Wesley their parents.  And so God activated Isaiah 59:21 and past it from Susanna and Samuel Wesley down to John and Charles Wesley.  And of course the rest is history how the Methodist church has impacted the world those that really held to the original vision especially.  And there’s other examples even in different arenas of life. For instance Orville and Wilbur Wright look at how they have transformed the world with their invention of the airplane and how far it’s come in a little over a hundred years.  And yet very few people know that their parents were strong devoted Christians, and in fact their father was a minister of the gospel. So again this generational impartation was very present in their lives.  In Hebre’s chapter 11 to of the primary verses in that chapter that deals with the heroes of faith in the word of God highlight the fact that there’s generational transfer of the blessing of God.  It talks about how Isaac blessed Jacob and how Jacob blessed his sons and leaned upon the top of his staff and it talked about how that blessing of Abraham was passed down from Abraham to Isaac and to Jacob and then on. God still does things that way, he made a covenant with Noah and his offspring, and God wants to covenant with us and our children.  We have to believe that.

Sid: Well, you know what I’m reminded, most people when they’re praying for their children and their grandchildren they take about fifteen seconds they say Lord let so and so come to know you and protect them this day. And boom they’re on to something else how more and important is it praying the promises of the Word over your family, what difference would it make Mike?

Mike:  Oh, it makes a huge difference because then you’re not pleading with God half in unbelief and half in faith but your affirming that these are things that God already intends to do and it releases God to activate the things that He’s already promised to do.  So it’s altogether a different approach.  For instance Jesus said, “Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones for I say to you for in Heaven their angels always see the face of My Father which is in Heaven.”  So He promises angelic intervention and protection for our children.  Well, how much more powerful it is than saying “Oh God please protect my child.” To say it is written my child has angels protecting him or protecting her and they always behold the face of my Father.”  So Father I claim angelic protection around my child you are the Lord of Host the God of an army of angels that are poised and ready for battle.

Sid: You know without having a scripture backing it up it’s a mixture of hope and faith and that mixture doesn’t spend in eternity.  I’m looking at some of the areas you cover in your promises you found; supernatural peace, God’s Spirit, spiritual growth, proclaimers of God’s word, angelic protection, freedom from captivity, long life; deliverance, a spirit of might.  I mean what a leg up. You were talking about Martin Luther King.

Mike:   Well, Martin Luther King’s father was a minister of the gospel and see God promises that our seed will have – that they will inherit the land.  He said “If a man fears the Lord his offspring will inherit the land.”  I believe that can be spiritually fulfilled that we can inherit the land through influence, through having a spirit anointing upon us that we’ll enable us to shape the values of the society around us and that’s what happened with Martin Luther in a day when prejudice was horribly in control of our culture; it was like a cancer on our culture and then Martin Luther rose up with the anointing of God and with the promises that God has given to parents that will be fulfilled in their children.  And he had impact on our society in an amazing way. I believe that it had all together to do with faith.  Faith that is passed from one generation to the next.  In Psalm 112 the Bible says, “Blessed is the man who fears the Lord who delights greatly in His commandments and his descendants will be mighty on the earth.”  Well, Martin Luther’s father feared the Lord and delighted greatly in his commandments so here’s His promise that his descendent would be mighty on the earth.  And look that he had a mighty impact on our culture and on our age.

Sid: Mike very quickly would you pray over the children and grandchildren and the great-grandchildren represented right now listening of the people listening to you.

Mike:   Yes I will gladly. Father, in the name of Yeshua I claim every child, every son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter represented by the listeners to this broadcast I claim them for deliverance.  You said “The seed of the righteous shall be delivered may they be delivered from every evil influence in their lives.”  You’re the faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy with those who love You to a thousand generations so we claim covenant passing down to each one of those children that they will abide in a covenant relationship with God and a reservoir of mercy will hover over their lives that will restore them and lift them up in times of trouble and failure in their lives.  And finally Lord You said “I will contend with him who contends with You and I will save Your children.”  And so I pray that You will launch warfare against Satanic powers that contend with our offspring, contend with them supernaturally Lord and save our children according to Your Word.  You said it so we declare it, it is written our offspring are saved by the power of God.  Let it be so in Jesus Name.

Sid: Amen. I really believe that some of you have adult children that you have a horrible relationship with you start praying these promises and watch what happens to that relationship.

Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here with Bruce Van Natta. Bruce, you almost were guillotined in half when a truck smashed over you. You really shouldn’t have lived. You should’ve bled to death, medically speaking. They had to cut your small intestine. Eventually it got down to under 100 centimeters, which, medically speaking, means he would starve to death. He was a dead man. But a man heard God’s voice, and flew to Bruce, and prayed for him. Then what happened?

Bruce: As he was praying and saying “Lord, I pray that you answer all those prayers today”, I started feeling what I can describe as electricity come out of his palm, into my forehead. Then, as Jesus spoke to the mountain, he said “Small intestine, in the name of Jesus, I command you to grow supernaturally in length.” As soon as he said that, it felt like a snake came uncoiled inside my stomach. I turned to the man he was with and said “Man, it felt like a snake came uncoiled inside my stomach.”

Sid: How did they find out?

Bruce: In preparation for operation number 5 a few month later, I had to go into the radiology department and have an upper G.I. They made me drink this nasty stuff, and they measured it from the bottom of my esophagus, checking my small intestine. She gets done with it and I hear here going “Hmm.” They said the procedure was going to take a certain amount of time. After that time, she leaves then comes back with a supervisor. They redo the test and I hear them whispering and saying “mistake.” That’s the last thing you want to hear a doctor say is “mistake.” So finally I asked, and he said “No, it’s good. In your records, it shows you have less than 100 centimeters of small intestine, but we’ve just done the test twice and you have way over 200 centimeters. You have over 6 feet.”

Sid: How’d they explain that? Was it a bad doctor?

Bruce: Well, considering the doctor is the head of the biggest trauma center in our state, and he’s chief resident surgeon, I don’t think it’s a bad doctor.

Sid: You have those records inside there. What could a skeptic say?
Is it possible for the small intestine to grow that much?

Bruce: It does not grow. Once you’re an adult, your small intestine does not grow. And we’ve got doctor proof: “before” and “after” lengths.

Sid: You know what excites me so much? Remember gifts of the Spirit that God has given Bruce? They are transferable. Everyone who knows the Messiah has these gifts. Bruce put together his entire documented story, plus a workbook on the most important thing next to being born from above, and that is hearing God’s voice so that you can be obedient, so you can fulfill your destiny in life. You told me that you had a vision of your new book, called “Saved By Angels.” What was happening in that vision?

Bruce: It was actually right before the book came out. My contact at the publisher, we were talking one day on the phone, and she was telling me about your show. She said “Sid Roth…” I was asking ways to market the book to get the message out, because I think it’s a really important message that people get to have a relationship with Jesus. Not religion, but relationship, and how different that is. So we’re talking about that, and I’m excited and want to get this message to as many people as I can. She said “I think a great place would be Sid Roth’s ministry.” I hadn’t heard your name, so I wrote it down. She continues, then it turns into a word. She says “God is saying that He’s going to take care of it”, because I said “How do I get a hold of him? What do I do to get on his show?” She ends by saying “I think God is just saying that He’s going to take care of this.” Fast forward a couple of months. This man calls me to have some air conditioning work done on his vehicle. I hadn’t talked to him since before my accident. I said “I don’t do that work anymore, because I’ve gone into full time ministry now.” He said “Oh, you know what? I just remembered, a couple of weeks ago at my home church” (he’s from another town) “some old family friends of my wife and I, Chuck and Mary Volm, came to visit. I was telling them your story about the angels and how you’re the only person who’s ever lived from this injury, and Chuck said ‘Oh, that’s exactly what our ministry specializes in. It’s Sid Roth’s ministry.’” He had never heard of you either, because we’re kind of isolated in the midwest, so he said to me “I’ll get you his number.” So he hangs up, calls back, gives me Chuck’s number who got me through to Joyce, and that’s how I got on the show. God gave me a word from this contact to get on this show. After I call her back, we had a great talk and I told her what happened. I get off the phone and praise the Lord. Now the book is being printed at the printer. As I’m praying and praising the Lord,
I see a vision of the books coming off the printing press, and every book is being touched by the Holy Spirit and physically anointed.

Sid: I have to tell you, when I read this book, I felt the presence of God. That’s what got me so excited about meeting you and interviewing you. Tell me this vision again. What was Jesus doing?

Bruce: It was the Holy Spirit in my vision. As each book was coming off the printing press, it was being touched and there was a physical anointing being put on the book so that when people got it in their hands, they wouldn’t want to put it down. Many people have said once they pick up the book, they don’t want to quit reading it. It just gets them and they get into it. People have said they go to work at night and end up staying up so they can finish the book.

Sid: You know why? Because someone can learn how God speaks.
God speaks to everyone, but we miss it so much. Tell me about words of knowledge.

Bruce: A great example I use in the book is this. We’ve got this little red guy on one shoulder, and we’ve also got the old cartoon angel on the other shoulder. In the middle is us. The Bible tells us that’s spiritual life. We’ve got angels and demons around us. A word of knowledge is listening to the right voice. It’s listening to the Holy Spirit speak inside you. An example. The day I flew here, yesterday, in the morning I got a call from a man in a hospital. He’d been in the hospital for a month, and he wanted some prayer. As I’m on the phone with him, the Lord said “Tell him you’ll call back in 15 minutes.” So I got his phone number and hung up. I said “Ok Lord, now what?” I started praying and going before Him. He led me to some verses.
Now I did not have these verse memorized, didn’t even know they were there.

The Lord led me to Psalm 41 or 42. At the beginning it says “He who has regard for the weak will be taken care of”, or along those lines. I’m paraphrasing, because I don’t know the exact words. Then it goes on to say “He will be sustained on his sickbed and recovered from his illness.” So the Lord tells me “Call him back and ask him if he has regard for the weak. He does, but just ask him the question to build his faith.” So I call the man back and said “The Lord is asking “Do you have regard for the weak?’” He said “In my ministry, if someone needs a couch, I’ll give them my couch out of my house. I’ve given my refrigerator away. I’ve given cars away. I’ve given money away, till I have nothing. I’ve given my own food away.” I said “So you think you have regard for the weak?” and he said “Oh yes”, and he starts to weep. I said “The Lord said you do. Open your Bible to such and such.” He opens up the Bible and we get to the point. Now he’s been in the hospital for a month, and the Lord says He’s going to sustain you, and He’s going to restore you. Not only is He going to sustain you through this long-term illness, but He’s going to restore you as well.

Sid: You had a series of dreams in which your wife was being unfaithful to you. How many dreams did you have like that?

Bruce: It was over 10 years, so I don’t know exactly, but probably over 300.

Sid: Ok. He has these dreams, and he knows his wife is faithful, but they’re so real he doesn’t know what to do with it. Because of time, God gave you an interpretation of the dream. Very quickly, what was it?

Bruce: The last dream I had, I repeat to my wife in this dream, as I wake up, she’s laying there sleeping next to me on the bed, and I repeat to her, why don’t you understand how much I love you, which was the last thing I said in my dream, and the Lord speaks to me and says why don’t you understand how much I love you? I said I don’t understand. What do you mean Lord? We went back and forth a couple of times, and again He says it, so it ends up
he said “Bruce, every time you do drugs, drink, anything that you do, go after money, motorcycle racing, anything I was involved in to get peace, joy, security, fulfill the hole that’s in my heart, he said anytime you do any of that stuff you’re cheating on me. Not only are you cheating on me, you’re doing it in full sight of me, because ever since I was little since I was hugged, God has been as real to me as my hands, so I knew God, every time I did this stuff, God didn’t want me to do it, and I was for a long time I was walking one foot in the world and one foot in God’s world.

Sid: And God still loved you. But let me tell you, God is too good. Stop the drugs. Stop the pornography. Stop the adultery. Stop anything that is filling that void, and fill it with God. Fill it with Jesus. He’s real. He loves you. He’s calling you.

He wants to hug you.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Marc Lawson, and Marc has such bold faith that I believe that in
this faith for the miraculous I believe as you listen to us it is going to be contagious. I also believe many of you are going to be, in fact right now someone’s spine was just healed, a back was just
healed, are you hearing anything Marc?

MARC: There are some people with some cancer, and they feel like it is inoperable, pancreatic cancer, I think it is, and I just want them to know that the Lord is healing them right now. The Lord wants to heal cancer, he is good, and part of the reason we do this is to prove or display the goodness of God.

SID: Can you tell me one person you have prayed for that had cancer that God healed?

MARC: It was a Friday, I got a call from a developer friend of mine, he said, my, a man I have known for twenty years his name is Joe, his brother in law has, his entire one of his lungs is completely covered with tumor, they discovered it right before Christmas and this was around January/February, I don’t know if it was this year or last year, he calls me and says it’s a tragic situation, can you get somebody, one of your teams to go pray for him? And so I prayed about it, I went and looked on their life pages on the web and on the internet, and I just looked at this man, 45 years old, five daughters, beautiful wife, his own business, been healthy every day of his life and now has got stricken with stage four cancer, and he had even gone to the Houston , done all the stuff he could do in Atlanta, he had done all the stuff he could do in Columbia, and then they sent him to Houston and they just said go home and spend time with your family. Because they couldn’t operate it was so aggressive. I felt so burdened by that, like Jesus, he felt that compassion, I think that is a big key and I was talking to my wife about it and she said, “Why don’t you go?” This was a Saturday, like noon, she said you should go right now. And I go it’s a four-hour drive and so I got through all of that and decided to go, called Joe, and said Joe do you want to go right now and pray for your brother-in-law? And he said yes. In two hours we were on the road, we got there; we prayed for him for an hour, we spoke healing, and declared that he was healed in Jesus Name, just like in the Book of Acts, just like the disciples did, they didn’t pray for the sick, they healed the sick, so we did that for about an hour, they’re crying, they’re weeping, they are so glad we just, a total stranger, I had never met this man in my life, in fact I had never met the man that drove me till we went over there and we had prayer time in the car. That was on Saturday, by Wednesday the man felt so good he started eating immediately, but he felt so good Wednesday he woke up and said I want to go back to work, he hadn’t been to work in six weeks I think. And he hadn’t eaten he was loosing three to five pounds a week, and he was just thin, he went and played nine holes of golf, he went back to work that day, Friday he went in and that Friday, which is six days after we prayed, and that Friday they said all your vital signs are perfect, they haven’t been this way for six weeks, and you have gained eight pounds. I didn’t hear anything else Sid, and then two and a half weeks later, I was just thinking about it, I thought what happened to that guy? And I get an email, and I get a phone call, they said Marc you are not going to believe this, I said I do believe it, is this the guy that we went to pray for and they go yes. He went into the doctor, did his MRI, did all the scans, did all the x-rays, they can’t find anything, they can’t find a tumor, they can’t find anything, it is gone.

SID: You know something, I have got to know Marc a little bit, something that gets him
even more excited than that. He is equipping people to do the same thing he can do and what I love is, tell me about that person that goes into areas of poverty, need, knocks on doors, and starts congregations in the homes.

MARC: Well we started doing this about a year or two ago, we realized we need to go to where they are and do what Jesus did when he went into a village, he sent people in twos into a village, said if there is a man of peace there you stay, so we would go to a home and I remember we have got a young man named Nathan in our church, he went to this new neighborhood in Marietta, very poor, very needy, a lot of gangs, a lot of drugs, went in there got this woman and her son and her daughter all healed, the woman had diabetes I believe, had a lot of drugs, had a lot of problems, they got healed in one visit, they came back the next week, the son got healed, the daughter got saved, the whole family comes back to the Lord. Now we started meeting, we started going back and meeting and have a house church, within a few weeks they have eighteen people coming to this house church in the ladies home in the hood, and now there’s two house churches in that neighborhood in less than a year.

SID: But you have had so many creative miracles like a, tell me about the person without an eardrum.

MARC: We trained some people in Winston-Salem, and we took them out with us one afternoon, and they went out with us Sid, and we just showed them how to do it, we didn’t say, it wasn’t tell you it was show you, we showed them and they kept running with it, kept going back to the neighborhood we went to that first Saturday. They go to this neighborhood, we got them started a few months ago, many even six months ago, I just got an email and a phone call the other day that this man had no eardrum, they prayed for him he immediately got his hearing back, they did all kid of hearing tests, you know snapping the fingers and all that stuff, and he had not been able to hear anything, he had bad hearing in one ear, no hearing in that ear because he had no eardrum. And by the time they had left he was hearing perfectly in that ear. They went back a week later, it’s even better. And again, these people aren’t going to the doctor all the time, we are not sure if he got it verified with the test, a hearing test, but I believe he did get a hearing test.

SID: You can tell when someone is deaf and then they can hear. You don’t have to be a rocket –

MARC: The deaf hear the blind see.

SID: Okay, in the next segment when we come back, there are – I am hearing the word head, anything you need in the head area from the neck up you are going to be healed in Yeshua, that’s Hebrew for Jesus, in Yeshua’s name. We will be right back after this word and Marc and I are going to listen to God and be obedient and you are going to have an action, in other words if I say your neck is healed, move your head you will see the pain is gone. That’s what I mean by an action; don’t go away I will be right back after these words.