AUDIENCE: Woo! Woo! (APPLAUSE)

 

HAKEEM: I want to begin to talk about the power of the spoken word. I want to begin to give us an understanding of what the Bible talks about the power of the spoken word. The Bible says that there is life and death in the power of our tongue. We have to understand that within us we have the ability to change and to shape and to reshape things. A lot of things happen in our lives is because something’s maybe cause when we spoke. Sometimes you know when you’re speaking and sometimes when you’re angry things just come flying out and sometimes it’s hard to get it right back. You know you ever said some things that you didn’t really mean at the time or because you were upset it just came out? And I believe that we have to become stewards and become more conscious of what we speak because we can change things. We can alter things. The Bible allows us to understand if there is life and death in the power of the tongue then that means that we can speak life to a situation or we have the ability to speak death to a situation. I believe that we are in an hour where God is releasing the prophetic anointing and causing the prophetic power to be released through voices. I believe that it’s not for one individual, one person but God is raising up a prophetic people that will carry the Word of God in their mouths. Some of us sometimes don’t even like the way we sound. Some of us may not even like our own voice. Because one voice may be high-pitched. Some voice may be too deep. But God wants to use your unique voice.

 

AUDIENCE: Yes.

 

HAKEEM: God wants to use you and be the voice and be the vessel that can bring life to a dead situation. I’m reminded of Ezekiel when Ezekiel, in Ezekiel chapter 37, God sent him and took him up in vision in a place where there was dry and brittle and scattered bones. He took him in a vision and put him in a landscape where there were all these bones. Can you imagine God taking you in a vision and He takes you into a graveyard but there’s no, there’s no tombstones, there’s just bones that are broken and that are scattered. And God was showing Ezekiel this condition of the church or more so of Israel. He wanted to show them something so Ezekiel had to have the heart of God. He had to see the condition. And what God is saying in this hour is He going to show you the conditions of some things. Usually I always say your holy frustration or dissatisfaction is the greatest vehicle that God will use for your ministry! What frustrates you, what angers you, what makes you mad is the area that God is calling you to. Some of us may have even missed the call cause we’re just happy.

 

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

 

HAKEEM: But God is looking for somebody that can be a little angry, angry at what’s going on in the world.

 

AUDIENCE: Amen!

 

HAKEEM: Angry at what society is saying. While we’re waiting for society and government to change things but it can be in your mouth. The change that you’re looking for is in you!

 

AUDIENCE: Amen! (CLAPPING)

HAKEEM: The next move of God is not coming from the world. The next move of God is in you! God put in us treasures in earthen vessels and He has given us purpose and He has given us destiny. But He is allowing us to discover and rediscover what those gifts are. Some of us say you know what? I’m too old right now. I can’t fulfill this call. Well ask Abraham and Sarah.

 

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHER AND CLAPPING)

 

HAKEEM: I’m too old. I can’t birth out this ministry or birth out this calling or this business. Well ask Sarah. Sarah laughed at what God placed within her cause she did not believe. I believe that God wants to change our paradigms, change our perspective, change our worldview of how we see ourselves and use the power of the spoken word to change things. And if you want to see change and if you want to see things turn around you have to speak it! He’s put it in our mouths. I like what the scripture says in Hebrews 11, verse 3. It says By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command so that what is seen was not made out of the invisible, excuse me, the visible. In other words we have to understand that it was faith that caused the world to be framed. In other words we have to understand by faith that God created things into existence. In other words God wanted, God had a picture for your life. But He wanted to frame it so He had to speak it. So He framed your life by what He knows about you. So He had to speak it so by faith we understand that the universe was formed by God’s command. God has placed that same spirit, the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead how many of you know this on the inside of you?

 

AUDIENCE: Yes.

 

HAKEEM:    If that same spirit is on the inside of you then you have the ability and the power by the spoken word to change any situation! It does not matter what the doctor report says. It does not matter what your family or those who may not agree with you says. It’s all about what God says about you and He wants to raise your level of understanding and awareness and see from His lens and see from heaven’s perspective and when we begin to see from heaven’s view what God thinks I believe we can change the world. I believe we can shake the nations! I believe that we can be conduits of God’s glory! I believe there is a supernatural dimension when we speak things! Can you imagine this, even those who are watching, can you imagine if you’ll just speak things into existence then things will begin to start happening! Sickness is only because of ignorance I always say. You know it’s not devils and demons. It’s ignorance! What is robbing the Church is her understanding of who she is.

 

AUDIENCE: Exactly!

 

HAKEEM: What’s robbing our, us from moving into the purpose of God and moving into our full potential and to maximize that full potential is ignorance. Sickness, yes it exists. That’s why we need healing agents like you. Poverty exists, yes. But we need those that can speak prosperity. That can speak those things that be not as though they are. And we have the creative ability in the same spirit that resides on the inside of us. And we can create and change our world. It’s biblically it’s supported. Then why are we shutting our mouths? Why are we so silent about things? I believe in this hour God is going to raise up a holy discontentment. He’s going to raise up a holy dissatisfaction where now you’re not going to sit back and just wait for God to do it. God says you know what? I’m waiting on you!

 

AUDIENCE: Mm.

HAKEEM: We’re praying and asking God to make things happen. And yes He will! He’s sovereign. But we have to partner with heaven and begin to hear from heaven and once we hear from heaven we can release it through our mouths!

 

AUDIENCE: Hallelujah!

 

HAKEEM: We can release heavenly decrees if we are seated in heavenly places with Christ Jesus that means that we can be seated right here, those who are watching in your living room, those who are watching you can be seated in this dimension and can ascend to the heavenly places because we are seated there with Christ! Once we know and have that revelation by faith that we are seated, that means that we have the best of two worlds! We can be in this dimension and ascend and sit on papa’s lap and He can show us the blueprint of our lives. He can show us what is ahead. That’s where God is going to begin I believe is going to open up our prophetic senses, allow us to see into the heavenly realm. We’re going to begin not only to see. Even Jesus said I say what I hear the Father saying. He said I do what I see Him doing. This is a principle not for those in the first century. This is a New Testament truth and revelation that you as believers can see in the heavenly realm and see what the Father is doing. In other words there is a blueprint, there is a template for your life that God wants you to get a glimpse of. No longer our prophecies or no longer our dreams will be dreams, no longer they will be a type and a shadow but we will live in the reality of it! We will become our prophecy. We will manifest. Jesus was the, He came in the volume of the book that was written of Him. Right?

 

AUDIENCE: Yeah.

SID:     SID ROTH

JOHN: JOHN BEVERE

 

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SID:  I am going to take this wonderful opportunity to ask a couple of questions to John Bevere that I’ve really wanted to hear from him the answers. John, you said something when I interviewed you on television. You said there was a season in your life where you were praying in the Holy Spirit two hours every day. But then you made a switch and tell me what the switch was and the results that happened.

 

JOHN: The switch was, I kept, if I’m, if I’m remembering, I’m going back to our radio interview. I was praying everyday ‘God use me.’ Use me to win multitudes to Jesus, use me to cast out demons, use me to heal the sick people, use me to restore people’s lives, restore marriages. And I was praying this way for years. And one day the Holy Spirit spoke to me and He said, ‘Your prayers are off.’ And I said, ‘What!’ He said, ‘Your prayer are off target.’ And I said I’m asking you to use me win multitudes to Jesus, to heal people, to heal marriages, to heal bodies. How can they be off? And He said this to me, He said, ‘Judas cast our devils, Judas healed the sick, Judas preached repentance, Judas led people to me,’ because when He sent the 12 out He sent the 12 out. He said, ‘Judas left everything he had to follow me.’ He said, ‘Judas is in hell.’

 

SID:  Uh!!

 

JOHN: When He said that to me, I literally started trembling inside. I said, ‘Then what should I be praying?’ And then He said to me, ‘What Paul prayed: that I might know Him.’ And so those who know their God will be strong and do exploits. So He said, ‘You can use me.’ He said, ‘I don’t use people. I transform them into the image of My son.’

 

AUDIENCE:  Mmmm, huh!

 

JOHN:            I mean can you just see me coming into my, or my wife coming in to me and saying, ‘John, use me to make babies for you! (pleading) I want to make babies, Ohhh, I want to make babies. Give me babies or I’m going to die!

 

SID:  Ha!

 

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER)

 

JOHN:   Okay, so what would I look at my wife and say? Oh my gosh, who did I marry! Okay? (Sid and audience laugh) But we’re intimate and out of our intimacy came four really great boys. And He said, ‘I want you intimate with me.’ So my whole prayer started changing. ‘God, I want to know You intimately. I want to know You intimately. I want to know You like You know me.’ Well you know what’s interesting? This was back in 1984-85. And in this time period when I started changing my prayer, I started getting free. I was bound to pornography and here I was in the ministry. And I asked Lester Sumrall to pray for me. I opened up to him, I said, ‘I’m bound, will you pray for me?’ He prayed a very strong prayer and nothing happened.  Nine months later I’m on a four day fast, and May the 6st, 1985 I get completely delivered from pornography. Okay? So I’m walking in my freedom a couple a years and I said to God, I said, ‘I don’t get it.’ I mean I humbled myself. I asked one of the strongest men of God I know on the planet to get me delivered, and I don’t get delivered. And then nine months later I’m on this fast and I get delivered.     And the Lord showed me that what I was praying, I was praying that ‘God use me, God use me’ and I was afraid that pornography was going to keep me to the preaching ministry I know I was called to. He said, ‘But then you changed your prayers and you said I want to know you, I want to know you intimately. And He said, ‘You had sorrow, but your sorrow was worldly when you opened up with Dr. Sumrall.’  He said, ‘Nine months later your sorrow was godly because your heart was breaking because you knew your sin was breaking My heart.’ So if you look at the difference you can see it in two kings. Saul says, ‘I’ve sinned, I’ve sinned.’ But he’s embarrassed, so he says ‘Now honor me by worshipping with me in front of my elders.’ You’ve embarrassed me in front of my elders. David, when he gets nailed, falls on his face and said ‘I have sinned and against You only I have sinned.’ He couldn’t care less what his elders thought. So that’s the difference between worldly sorrow and godly sorrow. Godly sorrow the focus is on Him, worldly sorrow the focus is on what’s going to happen to me. And when we pray that we can know Him intimately, that we can please Him the best a man or woman can please Him, now it’s all about this relationship over everything else and that’s what pleases the heart of God. See Psalm 89, verse 7 says:  “God is to be greatly feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be held in reverence by all those who surround him.” So you’ll never find the presence God in an atmosphere where He’s not held in the utmost of respect. I remember when I learned this experientially. Back in 1996, I was asked to speak in Brazil, the nation of Brazil. There were thousands of people at this conference, it was a national conference. I’m the Friday night speaker. They drive me to the auditorium. There’s cars parked everywhere. And as I come into the auditorium I can hear the worship coming from the inside of the building. Because in their big auditoriums down there, if they have a ceiling on it, there’s like a six foot gap between the upper wall and the ceiling, and it’s for air ventilation but you can hear what’s going on inside. So they walk me in, they put me on the platform. There’s not a seat open anywhere. Thousands of Brazilians, right? So there’s no presence of God. There’s no presence of God in the whole auditorium. Now when I say this Sid, as we know there are 2 types of the presence of God. There is the “omnipresence” of God. That is where David said ‘where can I go from your presence? If I go to the highest mountain you’re there, if I make my bed in the lowest valley you’re there.” That’s the presence of God that says ‘I’ll never leave you nor forsake you.’ That’s the omnipresence of God. The other presence of God the Bible speaks about is the “manifest presence” of God. “Manifest” is to bring from the unseen into the realm of the seen, the unheard into the realm of the heard, the unknown into the realm of the known. It’s when God reveals Himself to our senses. Okay? That is a very real experience in Christianity.   Jesus said, ‘I will manifest Myself to you,’ right? So that presence was totally void in that, and I’m sitting there going ‘this is a believer’s conference.’ Place is packed, best worship leaders in the nation, why is there no presence!? So I asked the Lord, I said, ‘God, why is there no presence?’ And all of a sudden God open up my eyes and I’m lookin’ at the people. And they’re standin’ there with their hands in their pocket lookin’ around like this, they got their arms crossed lookin’ down like this, they’re whispering to one another, they’re fumblin’ through their purses, and they’re walking in and out of this auditorium getting concession stand stuff, okay,

 

SID:  It’s like going to a football game!

 

JOHN: Yeah! So I’m sittin’ there goin’ ‘this’ll calm down.’ Well it doesn’t! They get through with the praise and worship and the leader comes up and starts reading out of the Bible. I’m still seein’ people sittin’ there lookin’ around, people lookin’ down like this, people are whispering to one another, and you can actually hear ‘em mutter from the people whispering to one another. Now I’m angry, okay? I mean I am really angry. So they introduce me. First time I’ve ever spoken in Brazil, 1996, publically. I walk up, I walked up to the podium with my interpreter right beside me. And I just put my elbow on the podium and I just sat there and stared at ‘em and didn’t say a word. Now, now, now picture this, okay? Friday night, national conference, the guest speaker’s introduced and he’s just glaring at you for 45 seconds!

 

SID:  Not too cool!

 

JOHN:             That gets people’s attention, right! So when I knew every eye in the whole auditorium was on me, this is the first words in public I’ve ever said in Brazil, I said I have two questions. Question number one: you’re sitting across the table talking to somebody and the whole time you’re talking to them they got their hands in their pocket lookin’ around like this, or they’re lookin’ down like this, or they’re whispering to somebody sitting beside them, next to them at the table. I said, ‘Will you continue to talk to them?’

 

SID:  No.

 

JOHN: They said, ‘No,’ right. I said, ‘What if every time I go,  you go over to somebody’s house and you knock on their door and they open up the door and they go, ‘Oh, it’s you, again. Come in.’ I said, ‘Will you continue to go to that house?’ They went, ‘No.’ So I said, ‘I’ve been in this auditorium for an hour and a half and I have, or an hour, and I have not felt one ounce of the presence of God.’ And I said the reason is He’ll never come into an atmosphere where He’s not held in the utmost of respect. I said if Pele you’re, well first of all I said if your President, the President of Brazil would have walked onto this platform tonight he would have gotten ten times the respect you gave the Holy Spirit. You, you would have listened to every word he said, you would have given him your attention. I said if Pele would have walked on, Pele’s the greatest soccer player ever in Brazil, would have walked on this, out on this platform, you would have been on the edge of your seats!

SID: You know, there is so much that this man experienced, but when I was reading about your experience I was reading the chapter on sticky love. Tell me about that.

 

JIM: The sticky love of God.

 

SID: Yes.

 

JIM: The angels came forward and they spoke to me through thought transference, and as they put their wing around me and held me close I felt so safe and protected. And I reached out to touch the angel’s arm, and Sid, when I did I felt I had been impolite in doing that, and so I pulled my hand back, and when I did, the light of the angel’s body clung to my hand until I got it back about six to 10 inches, and then let go and went into its body. And that’s why I tell people every chance I get the love of God is sticky. It wants to cling to you.

 

SID: And you told me that God was in process of replacing all your selfishness, all your greed, all your lust with love. Explain that.

 

JIM: I don’t think a human, a soul or spirit can go through this experience and not be profoundly changed, and I feel as though I have been truly born again. Not only have I come back from the grave, my soul has come back from despair. My spirit has found God again and I will be eternally grateful.

 

SID: Tell me about the Hall of Knowledge.

 

JIM: Heaven, you have to suspend your, all that you’ve been taught about physics and gravity, and time, and linear space, and spatial references. They simply do not exist in Heaven. But I was shown the Holy City, I mean, these incredible buildings of light, not hewed from stone, Sid, but hewed from blocks of light that exuded this warmth and love. And I saw the Halls of Knowledge, the Halls of Music, the Halls of Learning, the halls of everything that you wanted to learn about the mysteries of God. And then they showed me the nursery, the nursery, Sid. I think it speaks to the compassion of our God that little souls that are aborted, God gathers their spirit back and they’re raised in the nursery in Heaven.

 

SID: Tell me about the size of your book of life.

 

JIM: I’m ashamed to talk about it, but in the Hall of Records they keep a record of everything that you’ve done in and with your life, and it’s not decreed an I gotcha moment. It’s for when you are shown the book of your life. And when they pulled, the angel pulled mine out of his robe and opened it for Jesus to read, I was absolutely shamed and mortified that all I had to show for a life lived that I thought was the ultimate in success was this small thin book no bigger than a diner, roadside diner menu. And I was ashamed that I should have, with all the resources and the time that I had, I should have had a book as thick as the Bible filled with all the good, all the good deeds that I could have done. You know, as Charles Dickens said in his novel, “Mankind should have been my business.” And instead I was only involved in my self-ego. I am determined now that if I have the opportunity to go back again to do everything good I can so that when Jesus reads the book of my life again he’s going to need three angels and a forklift to open it.

 

SID: Now you have got to tell me, when you looked in the eyes of Jesus, what did you see?

 

JIM: It was the apex of everything that happened to me because when his eyes locked on mine and he smiled at me, Sid. Jesus smiled at me. But when I looked into those eyes of grey and green, and blue, I was lost in eternity because in those eyes I saw sadness for the way I had lived my life. I saw sadness for the way we as mankind have rejected his Father’s message, but I saw incredible love for me, for me, someone that deserved none, nothing. For me. And I also saw mixed in with that love in the eyes of Jesus forgiveness for me, forgiveness for the life that I had lived, and a chance to do it again. I am eternally grateful. My life, our lives, Lorraine’s life and mine, are now his.

 

SID: Let me tell you a couple of things that you need to know. While all this is going on his wife and family are praying and he sees it. He can see them praying. He comes back and guess what happened to his incurable illness? Went out the window.

SID:  You know, this is amazing.  This is Sid Roth with Something More, and uh I’m talking to Cherie Calbom.

 

SID:  And uh Cherie, in my notes, y-you have a pretty f- – profound statement here.  It says uh, “If you are overweight”, then that “promotes inflammation”, which of course promotes every disease under the sun just about, “and inflammation promotes obesity.”  So, when you get rid of inflammation, will you lose weight?  Would you tell me about one person that did?

 

CHERIE:  Yes, absolutely.  Um, I have uh seen many people, but Teresa may be uh …

 

VIDEO:  TERESA:  I need your help.

 

CHERIE:  the best example.

 

VIDEO:  TERESA:  Both my naturopathic doctor …

 

CHERIE:  She called me with um desperation.

 

VIDEO:  TERESA:  AND my allopath doctor has given up on me!

 

CHERIE:  Uh, uh gained 50 pounds of water weight, uh it seemed, or um …

 

CHERIE:  and her doctors, both natural – naturopath and allopath, didn’t know what to do for her; just said, “Get your affairs in order”.  And uh, so we got her on an anti-inflammation diet and a green juice before each meal.  She called me back, and 30-days later …

 

VIDEO:  TERESA:  Praise be to GOD!  I lost all 50 pounds!

 

CHERIE:  and said the weight – the extra was all gone.

 

VIDEO:  TERESA:  I’m walking a mile a day!

 

CHERIE:  And she was now able to chop firewood …

 

VIDEO:  TERESA:  [CHOPS WOOD]  I just chopped a cord of firewood and stacked it!

 

CHERIE:  and [CHUCKLES] walk for a mile, and they thought she was dying.

 

VIDEO:  TERESA:  [CHUCKLES] If you’ve ever done that, that’s a lot of work, Cherie!

 

CHERIE:  I’ve seen over and over and OVER again …

 

CHERIE:  people losing weight when they get on this diet, and they always say, “Wow!  It just seems easy!  It’s like just falling off [CHUCKLES] my body!”

 

SID:  [CHUCKLE]

 

CHERIE:  And it’s not a struggle!  And they’re still eating delicious food!  So when you get that inflammation under control, your body does what it’s designed to do.

 

SID:  Y-you know, I have so many exciting things that you talk about in your books.  Uh, table salt:  Uh my wife has low blood pressure, so every time we go out to dinner – it’s salted to begin with – and she goes wild with the salt shaker.  What’s wrong with that?

 

CHERIE:  Well, we can have “good salt” which is sea salt, or Himalayan pink salt; but the stuff uh, the table salt that’s out there in the restaurants is really bad.  Allot of it …

 

CHERIE:  now is a crude oil flake leftover …

 

SID:  So …

 

CHERIE:  that they take and make into table salt.

 

SID:  so – so what does this do to the body?

 

CHERIE:  It is so detrimental.  It’s toxic to ourselves, it’s toxic to our whole system.  That is the salt that can TRULY elevate our blood pressure, and we want to get that out of our diet.  We don’t want to use restaurant salt.  But you- contrary to that is sea salt; the “good kind”, you would have to go to a health food store usually …

 

SID:  Um hm.

 

CHERIE:  to find it.  A – or the pink Himalayan salt; that’s rich in minerals.  That is good for the body, and it’s very good for the adrenal glands.

 

SID:  And – real quick, because we have so much to cover – uh, you are not a big fan of the way most people cook!  It’s called “microwave”.  They – they heat their coffee for – uh or their tea; they – uh, they cook everything …

 

SID:  with a microwave.  What’s wrong with that?

 

CHERIE:  Microwave, now we know from research, puts toxic by-product into your food, …

 

CHERIE:  and even into your coffee!  And so I just don’t allow it in our – my home for use of anything!

 

SID:  So what’s wrong with tox- – oh come on, help me out.  What’s wrong with toxic food?

 

CHERIE:  [CHUCKLES]

 

SID:  I-I mean I don’t like the word, but h-how bad is that?

 

CHERIE:  Toxins in the food?  Toxins can contribute to cancer, and to all sorts of other problems, so we want to get the toxins out of our diet.  We don’t want to use a cooking method that is going to put toxicity into our food.  And on top of that, microwave destroys nutrients.  So we want nutrient rich food without the toxins.

 

SID:  Oh okay.  Let’s talk a little bit about remedies for stress and adrenal fatigue.  What is “adrenal fatigue”?

 

CHERIE:  So many people experience that today, and it’s not something that a lot of doctors recognize or will diagnose.  It’s diagnosed through a saliva test, um, and in measuring cortisol at different hours of the day.  And many people, because of their stress, have this – the symptoms of this, and don’t know why they feel tired or very very fatigued.  M- – And then yet, when they’re so tired, oftentimes they don’t sleep well at night …

 

SID:  Hm.

 

CHERIE:  because their adrenals are pumping out cortisol at wrong times of the day.  And also uh cortisol can get all messed up and – and even uh deposit fat in the body, or keep us from losing weight, and um many many other symptoms can go on with adrenal fatigue, so what we need to do is support our adrenals.  That’s what my “Remedies” book is all about; how to feed those adrenals and bring them back um into harmony, so that those uh glands can function normally again.

 

SID:  Now can we do this just with uh juicing and regular food?

 

CHERIE:  Yes, and some supplements, and like licorice tea, …

 

SID:  Um hm.

 

CHERIE:  things like that.  Um I’ve got the supplements in there that are very helpful for people as well.  So you may need a little extra for a while, then just the juicing and just the diet, but I’ve got all the remedies there – the supplements that would be very helpful for you.  And then also to bring that stress down in our lives, to figure out what – what’s important, what we can let go of, and to make times to relax; and especially before we go to bed, so we can begin to bring our system down into a place of – of calm, so that we can sleep well, and so that our adrenals CAN rejuvenate during the night.

 

SID:  Okay.  Allot of people have allergies.  I notice at certain seasons, my nose runs.  I – what’s – what do you think is causing that?  I mean I know it’s got to do with the pollen and stuff, but how can I stop it?  [CHUCKLES] That’s a better question.

 

CHERIE:  Yes, it – uh we’ve got to get to the root of it.  There’s always a root to everything, …

 

SID:  Uh huh.

 

CHERIE:  and it’s the immune system.  We need to bring that immune system into uh better function, so we need to support the immune system.  And that again comes through diet, through juicing, uh if you can juice.  If you can’t, it’s um other supplements that you can take to bring that immune system up to support it and improve the immune system function.  And then you’re not going to be reacting to all that stuff like pollen in the spring – o-or it can be any time of year – different pollens, or dust mites, or – or pet dander.  There’s all sorts of things people react to, but you don’t have to be stuck in that place of reacting to that stuff all the time.

 

SID:  Okay.  It appears, Cherie, as more and more people are getting uh “GMO”, “genetically modified foods”, uh and uh, is there anything wrong with us doing that?  It – it tastes better?  It’s bigger?  It’s – is it healthier?

 

CHERIE:  Genetically modified isn’t.  And in – in the Word of God it says don’t mix the seed, and we are doing that with all sorts of – and it’s not even just seed we’re mixing in now.  We’re mixing in fish genes, and pork genes, and peanut genes, and on and on into different plants and – and uh so forth, and it is VERY detrimental.  And when you look at research, and especially some of the rat studies, you see those poor animals that they put on GMO foods for a year.  HUGE tumors all over their bodies; it’s really really alarming.  And GMO foods – genetically modified foods – are going all over the world, and the pollens are blowing around, and it’s something that we must really avoid.  Some of the top crops of GMO to really look out for, and only buy as organic, are:  Soy; corn; sugar beets now are GMO; um canola, so canola oil.  Canola is a big GMO crop.  We’ve – we’ve got to be really informed, and I cover this in the juice phase.

 

SID:  Th-they – Cherie, they sneak soy into almost everything today!  What’s wrong with soy that’s GMO?

 

CHERIE:  Soy is our top GMO crop, and so soy oil and soy products – some people are on soy, soy, soy, from breakfast, lunch, to dinner.  Soy derivatives, known as “textured vegetable protein” ends up in energy bars, and fillers, …

 

SID:  Hm.

 

CHERIE:  and all sorts of packaged foods, and it is so bad for us.  It’s not a good product anyway for the body.  And on top, it’s a goitrogen, meaning it blocks iodine absorption, so that affects our thyroid.  But on top of that, being a GMO – top GMO product – now it’s going to add toxicity to the body.  So I always say look at the salad dressings, because soy oil is in a lot, even health food store salad dressings.  Be very aware about soy milk; I don’t recommend it at all.

 

SID:  Hm.

 

CHERIE:  Almond, or coconut, or hemp milk are good choices.  Uh soy ice cream, soy cheese – avoid all of this stuff.

 

SID:  Hm.

 

CHERIE:  Get the soy out of your diet, and choose other things.  They’re so many other choices; we don’t need to be eating that at all.

 

SID:  Now why does it seem as though there’s an increase in allergies, and asthma?  I mean the – you take these young kids; they’re allergic, they give them tests, and they say, “Oh you’re allergic to 55 different things”!  Well [SIGHS], is this, and what you’re describing, i-is this – is this uh what occurs when you have these GMOs, and y-you’re eating the wrong kind of food?

 

CHERIE:  Yes it is.  So the whole uh body is compromised.  The immune system is compromised in this case, and the entire system is compromised.  And these poor children need help!  They need to be restored, renewed at the cellular level.  They need a lot of fabulous nutrient-rich foods.  That’s where I go back to the juices again, the vegetable juices, and getting those into the system to begin to rebuild the immune system, and build the body at the cellular level.  And lots of organic vegetables, and other great whole foods – like God created – and get all the junk out of the diet, …

SID:  B-b-but – but Cherie, …

 

CHERIE:  and I think we would see …

 

SID:  uh, organic food is more expensive.  What would you say?

 

CHERIE:  I say choose it – please choose it [CHUCKLES].  And uh, because it’s not more expensive in the end; what is your health worth?  And if you’re sick, at the other end you’re going to be paying a much bigger price at the drugstore for over-the-counter medications, or even worse for uh prescription medications.  When you’re sick, you’re going to be spending a lot more money.  It is so well worth it –

 

SID:  Mm.

 

CHERIE:  to get organic food.  Get those pesticides and herbicides out of your diet.  Plus they’ve shown, in study after study, organic foods are much richer in ALL the vitamins and minerals, straight – straight across the board.

 

SID:  Okay.  Cherie, tell me about that person, just before we uh – just that uh, before the – the break, you were telling me about someone from Indian.

 

CHERIE:  She called, and this is very exciting.  I talked to one of your producers; she called your uh prayer line, and said she had a large cyst on her ovary; and no money, no insurance in uh, and no money for the surgery.  Saw the show that you and I did before, started juicing, and uh prayed and prayed; and within a number of months, that cyst was completely gone.  Went back to her doctor, and got a complete good bill of health report.  No more cyst on her ovary, and she called your hotline praising God for that miraculous healing.

 

SID:  Now I know the book is brand-new, “The Anti-Inflammation Diet:  28 Days to Restore Your Body and Feel Great”, but [CHUCKLES] God’s actually speaking to me.  Uh, …

 

SID:  there are people with arthritic fingers; if you will uh – and even in your wrist, if you’ll move your fingers – this is a freebie, but you better start eating right things – uh, and uh, if – you’ll see that you’re totally healed.  And there are other people with back and neck problems, and hip problems; all these joint problems.  Uhm yeah you can take care of it uh long-term, and you better, because it might come back!  But y-you have a freebie from God right now!  God has just healed your backs!  Stand up and bend over!  DO you remember the guy I was telling you about from Outer Mongolia!  I mean his back was broken 5 places; the prognosis was a wheelchair the rest of his life!  I mean no hope – hopeless!  But as a matter of fact, Cherie, you were hopeless.  Give me some good news for the people that feel hopeless right now.

 

CHERIE:  I was so hopeless, not even with – not just with chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia, but a serious injury; and we won’t go into that now, but it was very serious.  I had no hope; no hope at all.  And God said there IS hope; there is healing.  We partner with Him; we do our part, He does His part.  And I had broken bones and crushed knuckles, and they reformed.  And that was not juice; that was the POWER of God …

 

SID:  [CHUCKLES]

 

CHERIE:  that came on my hand, to reform knuckles in my right hand that were just bone fragments and powder.  God can do anything!  And when we partner with Him and do our part, we are going to see MIRACULOUS healings, where we can stand up and say, “I feel fabulous, and I want to join in with the army of God and do my part”, because the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit is coming, and we don’t want to be sidelined.  We want to be part of it, and we want to have vibrant health.  We want to be one of those mighty men and women Joel 2 talks about, where we run on the wall, you know, with the rest of the army.

 

SID:  Tell me some of the things that you have seen, that people have followed what you’re teaching in these 4 books that we’re offering.  And you have seen multiple times with your own eyes uh, what has happened to these people.

 

CHERIE:  Oh I had a lady that was given up for dead; um, told “Go home, get your affairs in order”; cancer throughout her body.  In 3 weeks – this is truly true – she got on my program, and was mostly juicing; and a tumor fell out of her body, after 3-1/2 weeks.

 

SID:  Mh!

 

CHERIE:  And then her whole health began to turn around, and she is still alive today; this is a decade and so later.  I’ve had people uh, one lady with MS; no hope at all; totally discouraged.  Young woman, trying to get through school; not – nobody gave her any answers.  Got on the program, and her MS symptoms began to go away.  And she found, though, she had to stay with this diet; if she got off of it, the symptoms started coming back.

 

SID:  Wh-what – what about things …

 

CHERIE:  I had a woman work directly …

 

SID:  like – uh Cherie, what about things so basic; people can’t function if they don’t have energy, if they’re in chronic pain?  Uh [SIGHS], what about things like – and wh- – i-if they’re grossly overweight?  Uh, what about things that basic?

 

CHERIE:  And I’ve seen things turn around that basic.  People um oftentimes people that are low in energy will say right away one of the first things they noticed on this program is that …

 

CHERIE:  they got ENERGY back, and they started feeling ALIVE!  And people saying, too, –

 

SID:  Um hm.

 

CHERIE:  “foggy brain” – that’s another big one that a lot of people have.  I call it sometimes “sugar brain” or “junk food brain”.

 

SID:  [CHUCKLES]

 

CHERIE:  But uh, the “foggy brain” goes away.  And I’ve had people say their prayer life has improved; they can hear the Spirit of the Lord speaking to them so much better!

 

SID:  Uh, y-you’re telling me …

 

CHERIE:  People with headaches – gone.

 

SID:  you’re telling me, Cherie, that when someone gets their body working – not the way they’re used to, but the way God created the body – it even improves them hearing from God?

 

CHERIE:  Oh I’ve heard it over and over again, people so excited saying, “Wow!  I turned uh my Bible open, and the Scriptures just LEAPT” …

 

SID:  [CHUCKLES]

 

CHERIE:  “out at me, and the Holy Spirit was SPEAKING to me!  And I was able to PRAY, and I heard the Holy Spirit speaking; and that hasn’t happened in a long time, with all the foggy brain.”  It is true – truly true; give it [CHUCKLE] a try!  And also you mentioned obesity.  I’ve had so many people that have started on my program.  Father Peter is one; he did a 60-day juice fast.  He was hugely overweight – in the 300-pound range – and lost 60 pounds in 60 days by doing a vegetable juice fast.  But y-you don’t have to do that; you can just start on the program, and weight is going to start coming off.  I’ve had people who have lost 50-, 60-, 100-pounds; uh, people who have lost 5-, 10-, [CHUCKLES] and 20-pounds!  Um, so whatever you need to lose, this program will help you do that too.

 

SID:  Okay, I want you to take “The Juice Lady” home again, because these books are over the top!  It’s what God has been showing her.

 

SID:  Brand-new book, “Anti-Inflammation Diet:  28 Days to Restore Your Body and Feel Great”.  Then, the exclusive book we have, and this is so supernatural.  It’s called, “The 28-Day Journey to Wholeness” devotional.  And then, “Remedies for Stress and Adrenal Fatigue”, and “Remedies for Asthma and Allergies”.  Uh, we didn’t even GET to that.  It’s uh, what’s going on with asthma uh Cherie

 

CHERIE:  Well asthma um, a-as you know, i-is a bronchial thing.

 

SID:  Um hm.

 

CHERIE:  Well it can be life-threatening.  And again, it comes down to immune system responses, acidity, um, inflammation, many of the things that we’ve been talking about today.  And as you begin to bring balance to the body – I’ve seen people with asthma bring that under control – and make HUGE improvements in their health.  So it’s AMAZING what can begin to happen, as you give your body the right tools to do what it’s designed to do, and that is to heal.

 

SID:  Well [SIGHS] I’ll tell you what, we’re making the 4 books available.  And the recipes, they are SOOO good!  But y-you know, if you just do a LITTLE of this, it’s going to be so much BETTER for you long-term.  For an investment of $49, th-this is good stuff!  This is stuff that everyone should have.  Uh why?  Because I know Jesus is returning soon!  And I know that you have to be in optimal health to do what you’re being called to do.  So for an investment of $49, any profits will be POURED into Jewish evangelism.  Uh, this is Sid Roth – been interviewing Cherie Calbom – saying there IS something more!  There IS something more!  Don’t give up!  There is HOPE in every arena of your life, when you marry the natural with the supernatural!

SID: I hope you’re having as much fun as we’re having here. Steven, at this moment in history I notice people that are really hungry for God.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: Really hungry for the things of God. They’re really zooming in the supernatural. How important is it for us to be hungry for God?

STEVEN: It’s essential, critical. You have to have that hunger to go after the things of God. So if you’ll initiate the move God will come right alongside and you’ll begin to go into areas of the Glory that you only thought could happen in your wildest dreams.

SID: It’s available to everyone?

STEVEN: Yes, but you have to press in. You have to pursue the Lord in this area.

SID: All right. What if the flesh is causing you to spend more time with your hobby, more time with television, more time, lots of these things and you want to press in, but the flesh is just pulling, pulling, pulling. What advice do you give us?

STEVEN: Just give God your initial best. If you will take that step the grace of God will come and the next thing, you’re going two steps, three steps and now you begin to get momentum. Once you get that momentum stay in it. It will only begin to increase. You’ll go higher in the Spirit.

SID: Steven, God revealed a concept, a supernatural concept about the nighthawk. Explain.

STEVEN: Yes. I found it in the Bible. It’s mentioned in Deuteronomy, Chapter 14, where it talks about this amazing bird called the nighthawk and he’s nocturnal. He flies at night. And then I began to realize that much of the praying that the Lord Jesus did was in the very early hours of the morning when it was still dark outside. And so the Holy Spirit began to show me that he wants the people of God to fly, to soar like a nighthawk because it’s cloaked in Divine secrecy. You actually fly beneath the radar of the enemy. He doesn’t have any clue in the world what you’re doing because it’s just you and the Lord alone in your quiet place, in prayer, receiving revelation from God and walking in very close fellowship with the Lord.

SID: Now I happen to be, because everyone is different, what’s known as an early person.
STEVEN: Yes.

SID: I’m at my best early.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: I’d rather do it early in the morning than the middle of the night. Will that work for me?

STEVEN: Yes. [unintelligible] biblical because it says in Mark 1:35 that the Lord Jesus arose early in the morning to go out and pray, and he went out to a solitary place and prayed. He did that a long while before the sun ever came up.

SID: How do you pray?

STEVEN: I just wake up and I begin to spend time with the Lord, sitting there in darkness waiting on the Lord, saying, “Lord, what would you like to talk about today?” And he will come. He’s the master teacher.

SID: What if he doesn’t come, what would you do?

STEVEN: Then you pursue him. You pursue until the Glory comes and he’ll lead you into it. He’ll lead you into it. He’ll give you little samplings and he’ll pull you deeper.

SID: You do something else that I haven’t, I really haven’t heard before, and that is, this part I’ve heard of. Actually I’ve heard of both, but I’ve not heard of them together. That is praying in supernatural languages, God talk.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: And visualizing at the same time.

STEVEN: Yes. It’s what launched my ministry.

SID: Give me a real life example, maybe launching your ministry. Tell me about it.

STEVEN: Yes and it can work for anybody regardless of their career, occupation or calling. For me, there was a strong desire to go out and pray every weekend afternoon on the bleachers of the ballpark. I would just walk back and forth on the empty bleachers. There was nobody there and I would pray in the Spirit for hours because I had the sense God has a ministry for me to the nations and I didn’t even have a passport. But this thing was in me, you’re going to go to the nations, begin to pray into it. So I would pray into it by speaking in tongues and just praying out in the Spirit. At the same while I would do that to emphasize the impact of it, I would visualize myself getting on large jet airliners and going to nations. And it took some time of doing that, week after week. And now that is my life calling of running to the nations. We just back from Europe and God is doing great miracles.

SID: If you hadn’t done that.

STEVEN: Right.

SID: Would you be where you are today?

STEVEN: I would not be where I’m at today. I prepared it and sowed into it, and now I’m reaping that harvest.

SID: Good. Could it be the scripture, “Many are called, few are chosen,” he was called, but most just say, well if it’s going to happen, it’s going to happen. I don’t believe that. Do you?

STEVEN: We have to pursue. There is the prophetic promise, but we must go after the Lord with all of our energy, all of our strength and we’ll achieve amazing results.

SID: You talk about actually prophetic actions released in the manifestation. Tell me about that couple that needed a Land Rover.

STEVEN: Well there’s many examples that you can do to step out in faith. You have defined some type of specific work to attach to your faith. And there was a missionary that was believing God for a Land Rover. And he’s out in an area of great remoteness, a place where there’s no access to receive help from what we would call the outside world. But yet he’s believing God for a Land Rover. And what he did is decide to wash an imaginary Land Rover. So he got a bucket of water and he got some soap and a sponge, and he said, “I by faith believe that God is going to get me a Land Rover and I’m going to start washing it every day because when I get it I’m going to take good care of it.” And by faith he said, “I’ve got it now.” And to the shock of all the locals who were watching him do this crazy act, to the shock of everybody in the community, God blessed that man. Miraculously, somebody bought him a Land Rover.

SID: Now when you went to Heaven you received a mantle of wisdom.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: But you’ve received many mantles and he’s prayed for people to receive mantles and they have received them. Tell me a few, just real briefly, two or three types of mantles that people can receive.

STEVEN: One of the easiest mantles to get especially in this anointing that’s here right now is a prophetic mantle. That way you can flow with the Spirit. We had to have a prophetic anointing. Jesus is a prophet. He’s very prophetic and he speaks through prophetic imagery. And when you can pick up on that you can begin to know how Jesus moves and operates.

SID: Okay. When we come back I’m going to have Steven pray for healings, miracles and mantles. Be right back.

LARRY: Welcome to Something More. I’m your host, Larry Sparks, and today I’m going to tell you how you can actually be activated in the prophetic ministry. And you might be thinking, Wait; wait, wait, I’m not a prophet. How can I prophesy to people? Let me tell you 2 quick things because I believe it is biblically legal – in fact, your spiritual inheritance – to prophesy. In Ephesians 4, yes it talks about an office of a prophet. Just like you have pastors and apostles in the Church, you have prophets. And today I’m very grateful to have a guest who is a prophet, but let me tell you this. A prophet’s job is not just to hear God for you. I believe a prophet’s job is to get you connected with your prophetic destiny, and actually clear the airwaves for you to hear from God. Because even though Ephesians 4 talks about the office of a prophet, 1 Corinthians 12 and 14 actually encourages you. Paul encourages all Believers to prophesy. So today I have Hakeem Collins with me. And again, I’m – I’m so encouraged to know you, to read your material, listen to your material, –

 

HAKEEM: Yes.

 

LARRY: because you’re not being this voice saying, Hey, you know what, you got to come to me, to hear God; you’re actually helping people get connected with God, so they can prophesy. So just – just share with me a little bit, Hakeem, about the difference between the office of a prophet, and then the gift of prophecy, because I think there’s a lot of confusion about that.

 

HAKEEM: Yes, Larry, it is definitely. Allot of confusion about the gift of prophetic, or p- – I call it the gift of prophesying, –

 

LARRY: Yeah; yeah.

 

HAKEEM: or the office of the prophet. And the Bible is very clear, in Ephesians

chapter 5, where God set in the Church first apostles, secondary prophets, and thirdly teachers. We see that God set these gifts – these ministry gifts

– in the Church for the purpose of equipping the saints. Now we see that the prophet is a secondary ministry, but it doesn’t mean that they’re superior; it does not mean that they’re greater than any other gift. It’s just that God has a government; God has an establishment; God has a setting. And so the office of the prophet is a high responsibility –

 

LARRY: Mm.

 

HAKEEM: to the church, for the Believer to be equipped, into, their ministry. , but also there’s a difference as well between the office of the prophet and the gift of prophecy. And I believe there’s a lot of misunderstanding about that, and I believe it’s because of teaching.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: And my heart really, as a modern-day prophetic minister is, really to bring understanding and clarity of the difference, because a lot of times because someone prophesied, doesn’t mean that they are a prophet.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

HAKEEM: and just because someone speaks the Word of God doesn’t mean that they have the responsibility that an office prophet has to the Church, so my job is, really to bring clarity. So as you stated, in 1 Corinthians chapter 12, it gives you the outline of the ministry –

 

LARRY: Yes.

 

HAKEEM: of the prophet. But also in 1 Corinthians, when Paul begins to give an outline of the parameter, I believe what the gift does, it is to edify the saints, to really build them up. I believe the gift of prophecy is to build up the saints.

 

LARRY: Yes.

 

HAKEEM: It’s, really to build the Church.

 

LARRY: Now hold on a minute here, because here’s – here’s the problem: I know back in, I don’t know, the 50s and 60s where – where we the prophetic being restored in many ways –

 

HAKEEM: Yes; yes.

 

LARRY: in the Church – t-to some degree in one wave – I think a lot of people have this – they’re a little bit scared of the prophetic, Hakeem. And I think they’re scared because they think a prophet is going to come, and, you know, call out all their sins.

 

HAKEEM: hm.

 

LARRY: Or they think, Okay, so I’m going to be activated in prophetic ministry. Does that mean I’m always looking for all the negative in people, and all that? But you’re actually talking about how it edifies; it builds people up;

 

HAKEEM: Yes.

 

LARRY: it’s constructive. So, you, please give us a definition, so we have a clear vision of what the prophetic looks like. What is it intended to do? How is it constructive?

 

HAKEEM: Well, the purpose of the gift of prophecy

is to bring edification, exhortation, and comfort.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: That is the boundaries that the gift does. It’s not the office, but it’s the gift.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: And so it is to build, to edify, and to exhort. And a lot of people needs edification; a lot of people needs encouragement; so it’s not to be used as a way to bring destruction, –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: but it’s a gift that the Holy Spirit will allow every Believer to operate in, to bring construction. I believe that we are in a, you know, an hour where we’re looking for doom and gloom and judgment; –

 

LARRY: Right; yeah.

 

HAKEEM: but I believe that the purpose of prophecy is to really help the Believer to come into their identity, come into their purpose, to build them up in their faith; but also, to know that the gifts of the Spirit are available today.

 

LARRY: Yes.

 

HAKEEM: I believe that you know, we are in an hour where God is placing this prophetic spirit upon all flesh; we see it in Joel.

There was a prophecy that was released, that He was going to release. God was going to Release His prophetic Spirit upon the sons and daughters and they may prophesy. That means that there is a prophetic spirit that’s about to be released, –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: but it’s not just for an – a prophet, but every Believer, Larry, can prophesy! Every Believer can speak for God, to edify, to exhort, and to comfort them.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: This is a season; I believe it’s not for the doom and gloom, –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: the judgment. I mean people know what they’re going through.

 

LARRY: They are.

 

HAKEEM: They know their sin; they know what their struggling; and they don’t need someone to come to identify, put a magnifying glass and say, This is what you did. You know, we’ve seen these misused and abused in the prophetic –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: and it’s breaking my heart to see them, so my job is really, to bring clarity. I believe that there have been people that are genuine prophets, –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: have prophetic gifting’s, but really lack the teaching and the true biblical principle of what prophecy is, –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: and what the purpose of it. And so my job really is to really bring, make prophecy easy, –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: and make it simple; not to make everyone prophets. I believe we can all be activated in the prophetic gift.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: We all can move because it is, a desired, gift. The Bible talks about, in 1 Corinthians chapter 14, that we can desire spiritual gifts, –

 

LARRY: Yes.

 

HAKEEM: but also that we may prophesy.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: But before even it said that we can desire spiritual gifts, it says, Pursue love -; that’s the first thing! So even to move into–

 

LARRY: Mm!

 

HAKEEM: the prophetic gifting, we can pursue – and have a desire – to move in love.

 

LARRY: Wow. Well, and even as you’re saying that Hakeem, I’m thinking to myself, you know, it’s so important that we recognize that a prophetic voice, whether it’s a prophet, whether people being activated in the prophetic – it’s not about going out calling out sins; not even about calling out judgment.

 

HAKEEM: Right.

 

LARRY: Because like you said, so many people are so beat up; people already know their sins; –

 

HAKEEM: Sure.

 

LARRY: but as a prophetic voice, you’re actually seeing past the sin, and you’re looking at that person’s destiny. You’re looking at how God sees them, –

 

HAKEEM: Absolutely.

 

LARRY: and calling those things out. That’s why a person who’s completely in sin – I’ve heard testimonies where – I’m sure you have.

 

HAKEEM: Yeah.

 

LARRY: Have you seen whacks desk situations where people were just like totally in sin – totally away from God – and yet a prophetic word activated them, turning them back on the course towards God. I mean have you seen that?

 

HAKEEM: All the time; all the time.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: Everywhere I minister and I travel, my heart is, really to pull out the treasure in people.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: The prophetic gift gives me the ability to see how God sees them; to see from God’s perspective.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: It’s to really to see the treasure in them, and not the dirt.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: Our ability, prophetically is, really to dig out what God sees; to dig out their full potential – their gifting’s, their callings –

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: and really call those things that be not as though they are.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: That’s the prophetic element or the ingredients of prophecy!

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: It’s to pull those things out, that really see what God sees for them, and allow them to understand it; but also bring clarity to it.

 

LARRY: Yeah; yeah.

 

HAKEEM: But also allowing them to manifest it. So again, it’s not to really cause them to see their sin, —

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: and judgment; they already know, and they already felt like they’re, beat up.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: a lot of times there’s a lot of abuse that I’ve seen, even as I travel Larry, where I’ve seen people use the prophetic gift, that are not prophets; but even uneducated, don’t understand the gift of prophecy, and its purpose that God has r originally assigned it in the Church.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

HAKEEM: They’ve used it and abused it to a point where they have cut people down, and not built them up.

 

LARRY: Yeah; yeah. Well and again, as we come back, we’re going to talk about how you can actually operate in the prophetic – you can hear God. And at the end of the day, you need to hear what God is saying, so that when you see someone, and you are getting a prophetic word, you can actually bring your words into agreement with God’s, call out their destiny; and then when you receive a prophetic word, you can actually know whether it’s, whether it’s the flesh, or maybe it’s even some devil trying to give you a word. So don’t go away. When you come back, we’re going to answer all these questions [music] and more.

SID: You have this timeline which just makes the Book of Revelation so simple. What is next on the prophetic timeline?

 

ROD: Well we’re right now in the church age. The very next event will be when the magnificent magnitude of his person sweeps out from north to south and east to west, and his appearing in the sky, spoken in verse, that’s noted in Chapter 4, we will be caught up, reposo, we will be raptured off this planet and then we’ll begin the seven years of tribulation, three and half and three and a half, which will culminate as the last day of the tribulation period becomes the first day of the Second Coming, which begins the millennial reign of Christ when he steps on the Mount of Olives and the bitter waters become sweet, and he sets up his earthly kingdom on the Temple Mount in that restored temple, the third temple, and rules and reigns for a thousand years. At the end of the thousand years, final judgment, the end of final judgment, eternity.

 

SID: You know, John saw thrones.

 

ROD: He did.

 

SID: Who’s going to be on those thrones? We know Jesus is on the throne.

 

ROD: Right.

 

SID: But who’s going to be on the thrones?

 

ROD: Can you imagine it, Sid? I know we can’t. Eye’s not seen, ears not heard, hasn’t even been able to enter into our hearts the things that God has for us. Those thrones, they’re meant for those who have had their robes washed white in the lamb’s blood of life. That’s right. You’re going to have one and I’m going to have one. And if you don’t want yours I’m big enough to sit on two.

 

SID: Get right with God. Tell him you’re sorry for your sins. You believe the blood of Jesus is amazing grace. Ask him to live inside of you and be your Lord.

SID:                 Hello, Sid Roth with Something More and Jonathan, you have such a… and by the way my guest is Jonathan Bernis, the head of Jewish Voice and you’ve probably seen him on television and… but Jonathan and I are friends and we’re gonna let you eavesdrop on our conversation. You have had a passion for years for confessing God’s word. Why?

 

JONATHAN:    Well very simply, two words. It works!

 

SID:                 I like that.

 

JONATHAN:    It does. It absolutely works. And I’ll tell you very quickly the story how I came into this. I was counseling a woman and one of the things that I, that I least enjoyed, between us, just the two of us…

 

SID:                 All right.

 

JONATHAN:    …when I was pastoring…

 

SID:                 You just hit your mic again!

 

JONATHAN:    I know, I know.

 

SID:                 Okay. I like to emphasize… (laughing)

 

JONATHAN:                I was gonna hit my forehead and I missed. Oy vey, but one of the things I least enjoyed when I was leading a congregation, pastoral ministry was counseling. And there was a woman that was severely depressed, clinically depressed. And she had been, like the woman with the issue of blood to every psychologist, to every psychiatrist. They had spent a great deal of money on counseling and she was, she just exuded depression and everywhere she went it was just like a cloud over her and then it hit other people. And I just spent hours of what really wasted time trying to help her without any results whatsoever. And then I was praying for her before a counseling meeting and the Lord told me just give her some scriptures like of liberty. That confess liberty. ôWhomever the Son sets free is free indeed.ö ôWhere the Spirit of God is there is liberty.ö ôGreater is He that is in us than he that is in the world. And I gave her this assignment and I didn’t know what to expect. I actually, I probably didn’t expect much of anything. Sid, she came back the next week and she was a different person! The cloud was gone. She was smiling. It was the first time I had ever seen her smile. And what she did was to takeà she obeyed the homework assignment. She did it. She became a do-er of the word and not a hearer only and she stood in front of the mirror like I recommended she do. She began to confess these scriptures and in about three days the depression lifted because the word of God works and confession is a Biblical principle. If you look at the word meditate in the Hebrew it’s hagah. That should remind you of something. The Haggadah…

 

SID:                 Right.

 

JONATHAN:    …which means to tell the Passover story. Haggadah. But that word hagah…

 

SID:                 Excuse me. The little booklet that has the whole format for Passover is called the The Haggadah.

 

JONATHAN:    Why because we’re retelling the story of Passover, the exodus out of Egypt. Yeah, thanks for clarifying. But the word in Hebrew hagah means to mutter. To utter. To speak. And when God told Joshua to meditate on the word and he’d be successful in everything that he did and he’d be able to take the Land and lead the children of Israel into the Promised Land the word is hagah. So Christian meditation is to think, to contemplate but Jewish meditation is to confess, to use that little member of our body, the tongue, which we’re told has the power of life and death in it. And to speak the word of God and by speaking the word of God something happens, Sid, that’s supernatural! I know you like that word.

 

SID:                 I do.

 

JONATHAN:    Supernatural! And what happens is faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God and the spoken tongue, the language, speaking forth words has creative force for good and bad. What happens supernaturally is that when we confess the word of God we hear it. When we hear it over and over and over again it becomes faith. It drops into our spirit. And then when we confess it from our spirit it has creative force, it has life and it brings change. It’s miraculous. It’s supernatural!

 

SID:                 What I find is so amazing if you could see in the invisible realm when you speak…  I just did the same thing. (Sid hit the mic)

 

JONATHAN:    I was gonna point it out. (laughing)

 

SID:                 Yeah, I wasn’t gonna let you point it out.

 

JONATHAN:    (LAUGHING)

 

SID:                 When you speak the word of God it literally it’s called a sword and it literally it does what a sword does. It just totally, the enemy stands no chance. In fact…

 

JONATHAN:   You feel the anointing growing right now as you’re talking? The anointing is, I’m getting excited!

 

SID:                 Joshua 1:8 you teach about. Explain.

 

JONATHAN:                That is the scripture God is encouraging Joshua. He’s preparing Joshua to take over for Moses. What a, can you imagine how daunting this is? The great Moses has now departed and you have to lead somewhere around three million Jewish people. Everyone is a president unto themselves. And you have to lead them…

 

SID:     I know. Yeah. When you have ten Jewish people you have eleven opinions, but go…

JONATHAN:                ..or more. And God is encouraging Joshua. This is Joshua’s pep talk, Sid. And He’s saying Joshua, you’re gonna make it but here’s how you’re gonna make it. You’re gonna succeed. You’re gonna accomplish this. I’ve been preparing you but here’s what you have to do to be successful. You have to meditate, hagah, confess my word day and night and never let it depart, he doesn’t say from your heart or your mind, He says never let it depart from your mouth. So if you confess the scriptures by speaking them forth and they’ll get into your hearing. You’ll listen to them. It’ll drop into your spirit. It’ll become faith and you will succeed in everything that you do.

 

SID:                 You know I’m having an amazing thought right now. We Jewish people we go into the synagogue and we daven. That’s called pray. And we use usually a Prayer Book but the prayer book is loaded with scripture so a religious Jew is going into the synagogue and he is meditating on the word of God every day. My father used to have the prayer book memorized and there’d be a contest to see who could say the prayers the fastest (laughing) in the synagogue but what he was doing was he was speaking the supernatural words of God. He was meditating. He was actually mumble… when you said that, it’s like mumbling. They do it real fast.

 

JONATHAN:    Mumble or mutter?

 

SID:                 Mutter. That when they read it that quickly in the scriptures and maybe, just maybe that’s one of the reasons why Jewish people are such a blessed group of people. I mean more Nobel Prizes for Jewish people and we’re such a tiny group of people. I believe that has something to do with it, Jonathan.

 

JONATHAN:    This is… again, our spoken words have creative force. Our spoken words are what we hear and faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God and the most powerful thing is when it gets into our heart and don’t you notice you confess scriptures and then you remember them at key times…

 

SID:                 Yes.

JONATHAN:    …the Lord brings them to mind at just the right time and that’s how it works. But when you speak forth the word of God, when you speak healing to someone from your spirit you’re releasing the creative power of healing and I love it Sid. There’s nothing more exciting!

 

SID:                 Okay, but you have incorporated Hebrew.

 

JONATHAN:    I have.

 

SID:                 Whyà now it’s interactive so you have the English, you have the Hebrew and you have transliteration which we’ll get to which in a matter of seconds you could actually speak the Hebrew that you’re seeing. But why Hebrew?

 

JONATHAN:   Well there’s a couple of reasons. First of all Hebrew is known as the holy tongue. It’s the tongue of the prophets. It’s the language of the Old Testament and I believe it’s the language of heaven. I believe that when God created the world it was the spoken word in Hebrew. We’ll find out when we get to heaven but I believe it was Hebrew. It’s a createà so the language itself has creative force. And we were talking in a past program about the, just the different tone, tonal qualities of Hebrew they’ve determined actually have creative power.

 

SID:                 You know I can’t, I can’t tell you from a technical viewpoint I can just tell you to my ear I like spoken Hebrew. I like the way it sounds.

 

JONATHAN:    I do too! And that there’s a reason for that. Our spirit likes it. It’s not our mind that likes it. It’s our spirit that likes it. When I hear Shalom I just love it. And I know that it’s speaking peace. I know that it’s speaking life. But here’s another reason. Okay, let’s take this one. Adonai Yireh. The word Yireh. Okay? The Lord will provide. So Yireh or Jireh. Jehovah Jireh, my provider (singing the song). So what’s the English word? It’s provide.

 

SID:                 Right.

JONATHAN:    Right. But Yireh, but when we confess Yireh we’re not just saying provide. We’re saying, we’re speaking forth prophetically abundance, blessing, multiplication. I’m reading all the words that Yireh means. Lacking for nothing, prosper, success, fruitfulness, sustenance, rescue, protection, shelter, graciousness, enjoyment, carry us to old age, rain when there’s famine, asking and receiving. All connected to the word Yireh!

 

SID:                 You know what? That sure sounds a lot better to me than just money. That’s what money can’t buy. You know that? Money can’t buy what Yireh provides for us.

 

JONATHAN:    You know we have super supplements and super vitamins and whatever else. Super foods. Hebrew are super words. It’s a language of super words. So we say provide in English but then we look, we go to the Hebrew and we release in Yireh a super word that has 20 or 30 English words all contained in the one word that we confess. Yireh!

 

SID:                 But the problem if you have ever looked at the Hebrew language unless you’re taught you can’t speak it and you’ll have to be taught it for a number of years to understand it, to speak it. But there was a problem when Jewish people came to America. Tell me about that, Jonathan.

 

JONATHAN:    Well the Yeshiva, the idea of Yeshiva and men being brought up as from the time that they were little children in the Hebrew language disappeared when America, when Jews started coming to America. In fact the Hebrew language was basically lost. It was really lost in what we call the Dispersion when the Jews were forced to leave Israel…

 

SID:                 Scattered.

 

JONATHAN:    …banished from Israel in 70 A.D. or actually 130 after the Bar Kokhba revolt they were scattered to the nations of the world and you would think they would assimilate. Here’s a people without a homeland anymore and really without a common language. Hebrew really faded away but it continued on in the European Shtetl and so on but in America particularly Hebrew literally disappeared. And so the religious leaders at the turn of the twentieth century were asking a question. How do we preserve Hebrew in our worship? And they came up with the idea called transliteration which is simply taking the English language and phonetically spelling out the Hebrew and we both grew up with this to some extent. We both went to Hebrew School but we also have in most prayer books now outside of the Orthodox this thing called transliteration where we have the phonetic English that is an aid to read Hebrew and I’ve employed that in these books.

 

SID:                 No, I see it. For instance the Hebrew you’d never understand if you saw it written but then it’s so easy. Here it is phonetically. And in the book, that’s what I love about this book. And it’s you see it’s a hard back.

 

JONATHAN:    It’s a workbook, Sid.

 

SID:     Beautiful.

 

JONATHAN:    It’s a workbook.

 

SID:                 And the CD is interactive. He has an Israeli reading the Hebrew but then you can read right along with that Israeli because it’s written out phonetically and it’s so easy. Just that word ôthe Lord will provide,ö all of those meanings you’re losing you’re capturing it when you’re saying Hebrew. Okay. Whyà so they developed this system. It’s so simple that anyone without understanding how to read the Hebraic letters sounds like an Israeli scholar but you’ll really sound Israeli because on the interactive CD that comes with this beautiful book you get the Hebrew from an Israeli, not just Jonathan or myself that speak ôBar Mitzvah Hebrew.

 

JONATHAN:    And you can read with it and follow it right along. There’s aà here’s how long it takes to learn Hebrew with these books. Five minutes. Five minutes!

 

SID:                 I said seconds. Okay?

JONATHAN:    Yeah, no.

 

SID:                 I’m an evangelist, you’re a teacher! (laughing)

 

JONATHAN: No, you’re exaggerating. It’s a full five-minute process.

 

SID:                 Okay. Well…

 

JONATHAN:    To start. Let’s be honest. I gotta be honest with you.

 

SID:                 Can you do the five minutes? By the way it was so supernatural the way Hebrew was lost when the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth. How was Hebrew restored for Israel? Because see here’s the problem. Jews were coming back from the four corners of the earth to Israel as God promised but they all, some spoke French, some spoke Italian, some spoke… what’s the Ethiopian language?

 

JONATHAN:    Amharic?

 

SID:                 Amharic.

 

JONATHAN:    Yiddish. Yiddish was a, Yiddish there was two…

 

SID:                 So it’s like a Tower of Babel…

 

JONATHAN:    That’s right.

 

SID:                 We gotta have one language so how did we get one language back?

 

JONATHAN:                Well Hebrew was a precursor to the restoration of Israel as a state in 1948 and it began as you said with pioneers in the nineteenth century that began to go back to the Land and God spoke to a man named Eliezer ben- Yehuda and he’s known as the Father of Modern Hebrew. And he was I believe called supernaturally by God to return to the Land of Israel and he was a linguist who began to recreate, to take the ancient language that had been preserved but lost at the same time and began to put together a multi-volume dictionary and all of these modern words that didn’t have a Hebrew word he created Hebrew words and he restored, he was used by God to restore Hebrew as a modern spoken language.

 

SID:                 How, how… You know he had all sorts of persecution when he did this. You think about…

 

JONATHAN:    Terrible.

 

SID:                 àHow heà it had to be God.

 

JONATHAN:    It had to be!

 

SID:                 Because without the modern day Hebrew, Israel would be a nation like the Tower of Babel.

 

JONATHAN:    Sid, just to see the way God orchestrated everything though. Zionism with Theodore Herzl who was a proclaimed atheist. Saw a trial in France called the Dreyfus Trial and said we’re never going to be safe anywhere. We need our homeland. Started the modern movement of Zionism. You have Eliezer ben-Yehuda being used by God to recreate the language of Hebrew, reestablish it.

 

SID:                 It’s all started dovetailing!

 

JONATHAN:    All dovetails and comes together at a specific time in history, a divine intersection, a kairos moment and we’re in it!

SID: Okay, I want a million volts of power to surge through me. Tell me how.

 

BILL: Now people listening to that might say that’s impossible, but it’s not. You’ve got your own built-in power plant within you when you receive your Holy Spirit language. Let me tell you how it works. Early in the 1950s, when my wife and I were traveling in ministry and we went, we stopped at Hoover Dam. And one of the main reasons for building the dam is to produce power. Now that Hoover Dam produces enough power for three states in the north.

 

SID: I’d say that’s a lot of power.

 

BILL: That’s a lot of power, millions and millions of it. But we’ve got our own hydroelectric power plant, only it’s a Holy Ghost power plant, and here’s what it is. A dam has a reservoir, but it’s not producing any power. And certain things have to happen for it produce power. Now they built the dam in a certain way. They got overflow where water flows over the dam below. They have these [unintelligible] called water gates. They open that water gate and there’s a big turbine like the blades on a jet plane, and when the water hits those curved blades it’s turned on real fast, and it turns into a gigantic dynamo, and that dynamo is described as a mechanical instrument that produces invisible power called electricity. Jesus said, “After you receive the Holy Spirit you shall have power.” So you get the power to the [unintelligible]. So the water gate is our mouth. The turbine is our tongue. Jesus said, “Out of your inner most being will flow innermost living water.” So this river of water that’s been backed up, God is flowing, when these blades go real fast, it turns and it generates millions of volts of electricity. And so we have our own built-in Holy Ghost power plant, we can produce that power. And a Christian never has an excuse for him not to be full of power, so he transforms to us what we’re capable of receiving, and then we manifest the gifts of the Spirit, healings, miracles, signs, accomplishments. And so for that to happen, not just be filled with the Spirit, you’ve got to open the water gate, your mouth, my spirit, the Holy Spirit, that produces love, joy, peace, power, faith, revelation. It floods my whole being with the presence of God and it quickens you, it renews your youth, and gives you faith and power, and anointing.

 

SID: You teach that you pray at the speed of light. What do you mean by that?

 

BILL: Yes. One of my ministers was praying and he had this whole list he wanted covered, and it went real fast. I said, “O Lord, I can’t pray that fast.” He says, “You don’t understand, pray in tongues because God is light and the light is in you, and the Holy Spirit’s light, when you pray in tongues, you pray at the speed of light. When you pray in your natural language you pray at the speed of sound.”

 

SID: Tell me about how you get information that has never been programmed into your mind, revelation that has never, you’ve never even, it’s not even been a blip on the radar, and all of a sudden you have it. There was an 11-year-old autistic girl.

 

BILL: Yes. This was unique. The article came in the newspaper and on the radio that this autistic girl down in Florida had wandered over to a spot and she wandered out, and rode her bicycle over to this place, and wandered out into this forestry area, and over into the area. And so they discovered her bicycle where she had gone in there.

 

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Man: Yes, that’s her bike. That’s her bike.

 

Woman: It looks like it.

 

Man: Good, at least we’re getting somewhere.

 

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BILL: And so they had four teams searching for her, professional church teams in this thick area and one of the most alligator-infested areas. Four days they looked for her, couldn’t find her. And one of the brothers of the church named James was praying in English for her, and he started praying in tongues, and he just felt in his spirit that if he would go out there and pray in tongues the Holy Spirit would guide him. Now God chose the right person because he was a woodsman and he was a military man. He knew what gear to take. He knew what water was there. I mean, he went prepared. He wasn’t a novice or just a spooky spiritual or something. I mean, he was a real person. And he goes out there and he was just being led in the Spirit. Go here, go there, and finally come to this little spot, crossed over to this higher place, a little island there, and he works his way through this thick growth, and he finds her. Now they can’t even see it. They fly over with a helicopter, he has to climb up a tree, had toilet tissue and thread it across so they can see. Then they came down with a hatchet, a machete to get back there to her. But he just asked the Holy Spirit, God, you guide me. And, Sid, the Holy Spirit [unintelligible] is to direct our impressions and sensitivity, and for us to yield to it. Some people call it instinct or anything. But we have a Holy Spirit impression. He actually was led to the Lord and saved that little girl’s life.

 

SID: Okay. I’m sure the news media asked him how he found her. What did they say?

 

BILL: They said, “How did you find her when four professional teams couldn’t find her?” He said, “I just prayed in the Holy Spirit language and he impressed me, and I just followed the leading that I felt, and I found her.” And they said that’s amazing. That’s amazing.

 

SID: In about 60 seconds, Bill, I want you to pray for those that are born from above already, who already know Jesus is the Messiah and Lord that have never spoken in tongues, to pray in tongues right now.

 

BILL: Remember how you got saved, you just believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and he came into your heart. Well it’s that simple. You got to receive the Holy Spirit. The Bible says receive the Holy Spirit. He’s already made it available. It’s already done for you. It’s waiting for you and it’s a simple act of faith. You just believe God. It’s hard to explain. It’s like trying to explain how the red blood of Jesus washed away my black sins and makes me white as snow, but it works. And what I do, I’m going to pray for you right now, and when I do, you just let your lips and tongues just open your mouth and don’t say Jesus, hallelujah, amen. Just open your mouth and say, “Lord, I receive.” Father God right now, just open up, in the name of Jesus, the promise you sent, the Holy Spirit, receive the Holy Spirit’s gift of your own spirit language now in Jesus’ name. Take a deep breath and now [speaking in tongues]. That’s it. Now let it flow. Let it flow. You receive him right now. In Jesus’ name be filled with the Holy Spirit. You’re going to be able to speak this language any time anywhere you want to for the rest of your life. It’s your gift. Receive it now in Jesus’ name. Be filled, overflowing and grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ and fulfill your destiny with the greatest gift Jesus can give for the church, and that’s your own spirit language. You’ve got it now. Go for it. Hallelujah. Amen.

SID: Dr. Hamon, you teach on the three greatest gifts that humanity has received. Explain.

 

BILL: Yes. Once a person realizes that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosever would have everlasting life, so God’s gift to the world was his only begotten son. Out of all of his wisdom and resources the only way to redeem mankind was through the sacrifice of the blood of Jesus Christ on the cross. So he gave that gift. Then Jesus said, “I’ve come to do thy will, O Lord.” He came at the will of the Father, gave his life on the cross because he came to save sinners, because he had to have sinners to make saints. And so Jesus came and died on the cross, purchased the church with his blood, then he wanted to send his gift of the Holy Spirit back to the church to convert and convince, and to mature and equip the church with the gifts of the Spirit, and all of that. Then when Jesus went back he sent the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit wanted to give his gift to the individual believer. But he searched all of Heaven, all of God’s treasures, all that God had to offer in Heaven, and God had agreed the greatest and best gift he could possibly give the individual believer was your own spirit language, where God is a spirit and the worshiper must worship in spirit and truth. So when you receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, which is your spirit language, that’s the gift, evangelicals get upset because they think we’re saying you don’t have the Holy Spirit until you talk in tongues. Now I was born of the Spirit, so I had the Holy Spirit, but I didn’t have the Holy Spirit’s gift. See, it’s a gift of the Holy Spirit, like the gift of God is eternal life. The gift of the Holy Spirit is your spirit language and that spirit language has many, many, many benefits that 90 percent of Christians don’t use.

 

SID: You know what I found that as you pray more and more in tongues, the Holy Spirit gives you more and more reasons and benefits.

 

BILL: Yes.

 

SID: Tell me the latest one he’s given you.

 

BILL: The latest one he gave me was that the speaking in tongues does the same thing for our spirit person as your heart does for your natural person. Your heart beats and puts blood throughout all your veins and that life-giving blood is what keeps you going. Well speaking in tongues floods and pumps the Holy Spirit presence throughout your whole spirit, soul and body. And Oral Roberts University did research and found that it increases your immunity system 35 percent.

 

SID: Imagine what my immune system would be if I prayed without ceasing, which is my goal. Give me just some bullet points, benefits of speaking in tongues.

 

BILL: There are so many. It activates the spirit of wisdom and revelation. It empowers you for ministry and so many benefits of healing of your brain and mind, builds your faith. The only two ways I know to build your faith is the Word of God and praying in tongues, and that’s proven. A psychiatrist received the gift in the charismatic movement. What praying in tongues does, he said, it clears out your subconscious and your spirit clears out your fears, your anxieties, your traumas, and loves and worships God, you can’t do it in the natural tongue. And you’ve got your own built-in psychiatrist. You don’t have to go crazy.

 

SID: Can I accomplish my full destiny that God has for me if I don’t pray in tongues?

 

BILL: It’s going to be pretty hard.

 

SID: I think it’s impossible. Science has revealed the benefits of praying in tongues.

 

BILL: It’s a language, so it is an intelligent language. It’s a language of the spirit. That’s the reason I call it your spirit language, because it is a language. Paul said if I pray in tongues in my spirit language, my spirit praise, but my mind is inactive. He says it’s inactive. And so they have tests in Penn University, and Dr. Newburgh there did some tests and they put these instruments on the frontal lobes of some people praying, evangelicals and nuns, and when they did this it really activated right here in your frontal lobe. And they gave it to a, put it on a Christian praying in tongues and it went blank, no activity. And that proves what Paul said. If I pray in tongues, my spirit prays, but my natural mind, my frontal lobe area is inactive, and they proved that scientifically.

 

SID: You me, the acid test is the results you see in people. I know I have prayed in Filipino language and led someone to know the Messiah. I don’t speak one word of the Filipino language. But get this, this doctor that I led to the Lord said, “You not only prayed in my language, did you know there’s over 20 different dialects in the Philippines? You prayed in my exact dialect.” Why do you call speaking in the supernatural language the father and mother of all gifts?

 

BILL: Oh my, thank you for asking that, because that’s so important. You know, so many people feel like the only time they’re supernatural is they’re healing or you see an angel, or you make a visit to Heaven. But I try to tell people, look, you’ve already experienced the two greatest miracles in the world. I mean, when God created the heavens and the earth that was a miracle. But when you receive born-again experience and God washes away all your sins and makes a new creation out of you, and that’s not just religious, you literally become a new creation in Christ. All things pass away, all things become new. That’s the father of all miracles, the born-again experience. Then the mother of all miracles is what James said, “No man can tame the tongue, but God can.” So when you receive your spirit language and God tames your tongue and speaks a language through it, that’s the mother of all miracles. And really, I try to [unintelligible] and say, look, you’ve already experienced the father of all miracles and the mother miracles, you shouldn’t be, the rest are your kids. Your healing, your miracle, your fulfillment, financially, whatever the rest is, is small compared to that. So if you’ve got the faith you just got to exercise it.

 

SID: All right, I am ready, I know you’re ready to have a million volts of power surge through your body and help you achieve your destiny. We’ll be right back.