RODNEY: Yeah, yeah. You see if I have a fly in this cup, I can either get that fly out by pulling it out or I can stick this cup under the faucet and just turn on the faucet and let it flush out. So a lot of demons, we’re able to get them out if we just pull them out. We’re casting them out, we’re driving them out. But ones that are stubborn, that are stuck in a person’s identity, those are the ones we have to displace. We just have to bring truth. We have to bring the light to come into, and show light into the areas of their heart, and begin to expose all of those embedded lies and bring them into the place of truth. And it just, actually just forces and displaces the darkness when we do that.

SID: Give me an example of a lie that people embrace.

RODNEY: Well it’s like, I don’t have any power. I don’t have any authority. I’m a loser.

SID: Or I can’t be healed.

RODNEY: That’s a lie.

SID: Other people can be healed, but I can’t be healed.

RODNEY: Yeah. And if I embrace that lie, then I basically impede healing because I’ve embraced something that’s not true. I can be healed because God says I can be healed.

SID: Well, here’s what I believe. There’s such a presence of God in this studio, even before my guests come, but now it’s even stronger. I believe you can pray corporately and set a lot of people free. Why don’t you look in the camera and pray as God directs.

RODNEY: Well the first step is this, only Jesus is going to set you free. So first of all, you have to have a relationship with Jesus because he is your deliverer. You may have learned coping skills, but only Jesus can set you free. So you’re going to have to invite Jesus to come into your life, to be the Lord of your life, to forgive you of your sin. And you’re going to have to make a decision that today, I’m going to follow Jesus completely. And if you would like to surrender your life completely to him, I want you to repeat after me.

RODNEY: Just say, “Dear Jesus”

Audience: Dear Jesus.

RODNEY: Come into my life.

Audience: Come into my life.

RODNEY: Forgive me of all my sin.

Audience: Forgive me of all my sin.

RODNEY: Today I choose to follow you.

Audience: Today I choose to follow you.

RODNEY: I make you my Lord.

 Audience: I make you my Lord.

 RODNEY: I give you my heart.

 Audience: I give you my heart.

RODNEY: My mind.

 Audience: My mind.

RODNEY: My desires.

Audience: My desires.

RODNEY: My future.

Audience: My future.

RODNEY: All of me.

Audience: All of me.

RODNEY: Now belongs to you.

Audience: Now belongs to you.

 RODNEY: Thank you Jesus.

 Audience: Thank you Jesus.

RODNEY: For coming into my life.

Audience: For coming into my life.

RODNEY: Now, if you prayed that prayer, you know Jesus came into your life. Now Colossians chapter one verse 13 says this, “That Jesus delivered us from the domain of darkness and he transferred us to the kingdom of his son.” So therefore darkness no longer has authority over you. So if you prayed that prayer, or maybe you’ve known the Lord for some time, but you find yourself in bondage, I just want you to know that it is your birthright to be free because you’re not in that domain anymore. You’re actually in the kingdom of God, the kingdom of his son.

SID: I am here with Dr. Michelle Corral. I can’t think of better people to be mentored under than the two you were mentored under. But your first encounter with the supernatural was when you were 17.

MICHELLE: When I was 17 I experienced the power of God being saved. I was listening to an altar call touched by the power of the Holy Spirit, but a battle was going on within me, not because I didn’t want to receive Christ, but because I think my situation, my battle is like a lot of people. You wonder if you go to the front to receive Jesus, can you live for God? And I didn’t want to be a hypocrite. I thought, oh, I would love to receive Christ. But all of a sudden this battle was going on within me, and I felt two hands lift me up. I wanted to go to the front, but I just didn’t know if I should. And two hands lifted me up and before you knew it, I was in the front weeping and weeping and it lasted three days. And this is what you really call being born again when you’re washed by the blood of Jesus and you experience that born again experience.

SID: But then just shortly thereafter, what happened to your entire family?

MICHELLE: Right after I got saved, my mother saw such a difference in me. I’m a product from the ’60s generation, and she noticed such a difference in me that she wanted to go to the place that I was going. She became born again and my entire family became born again. And they’re still serving God to this day.

SID: Something happened to me. A very similar thing happened to me. In fact, I had that great miracle of salvation about the same time.

MICHELLE: Yes.

SID: And then I got a phone call from a woman called Kathryn Kuhlman. You started going to her meetings.

MICHELLE: Oh yes.

SID: And what did you learn when you went to those meetings?

MICHELLE: The very first time though, I had been after baptism in the spirit involved in a Pentecostal church. I did not know what it meant to feel the anointing. And for the very first time in my life when I went to Ms. Kuhlman’s service, I saw the presence of God. I actually saw the glory of God in that meeting. I was up on the third balcony and she started calling out someone that was blind. And all of a sudden the room turned dark and I saw a rod of lightning starting on one end of the pew all the way to the other end of the pew. And it touched a little boy who had been blind from birth, and he was completely healed in that service. And it changed my life forever.

SID: If there was one thing that I could ask you about that you learned from Ms. Kuhlman, what would that be?

MICHELLE: So many things. One thing would be about dying to self, but making the Holy Spirit your best friend, depending on Him for everything, yielding to him. Never wanting to disappoint Him. Always asking His preference, differing the way to the Holy Spirit because he lives in us.

SID: Excuse me, excuse me.

MICHELLE: Yes, yes.

SID: You mean you literally ask His permission to do things? Explain.

MICHELLE: Oh totally.

SID: Give me a concrete example.

SID: Tell me a couple examples of… We know about the dragons you’ve faced, witchdoctors, et cetera in Africa and places like that, but what kind of dragons does the housewife, the student, the businessman, the trash collector, what kind of serpents are they facing?

DANIEL: Well, I read an interesting story in a British newspaper a while ago. The headline, if I paraphrase it, it said a man’s a rock python, eight foot rock python named Tiny, kills him in his sleep. And I was thinking about that. And I was thinking, that man’s snake probably started out as this cute little pet he brought home from the pet store. And he coddled it and he nurtured it and he raised it. And that was the beast that eventually took his life. And I thought, what an appropriate metaphor for what so many Christians and what so many believers and people experience in their lives. Because the reality is, the things that we struggle with, the things that take people down, things like addiction, things like divorce, problems with relationships, problems in jobs, all these different things, the darkness, the bondages that destroy people’s lives, they very often start as a small pet. And we are the ones that feed those things. We nurture them, we coddle them, and then they end up destroying our lives.

So one of the great keys is to learn how to identify those things when they’re young, when they’re small, and kill them in their inception, smash those eggs.

SID: Now you have had a number, a lot of people come and want to do you harm, witchdoctors, et cetera. Tell me, pick out one witchdoctor that came to kill you. I mean, to kill you.

DANIEL: Yeah. Well, this was also a story in Nigeria. And I had to get the backstory of this later from the local pastors. But, in Africa, this is the place where voodoo originated. And so it’s very well known, witchdoctors, witchcraft, animism, we call it Juju, which is just all this witchcraft.

SID: Now some people watching us right now, they think that’s just, that’s not true. But this is a real demonic….

DANIEL: Go on one trip to Africa, you won’t need any more convincing. It’s real. It’s very, very real. And so there are different levels of these witchdoctors doctors, even in the minds of the locals. And some of them, in their minds, are good. Some of them are bad. What we know, we understand that all of that stuff is evil, but in their minds, there’s good and bad. Well, this lady was bad even by voodoo standards. One of the pastors told me, he knew of 10 people that this woman had cursed to death, two of them were relatives of hers. And see, why this lady was feared is because her job was to put curses on people that would kill them.

Well, when we come into a city for one of our campaigns, Sid, there is one group of people that’s not very happy about it. And that’s the witchdoctors.

SID: Why?

DANIEL: Because when we come in, it’s an amazing thing, their witchcraft stops working. There was a man that came to a campaign, a witchdoctor, he was furious. He said his business is that you go to his house, he has these stones out on the lawn.

SID: You buy them.

DANIEL: No, you pay money. You stand on a stone and you hear what he would convince you is the voices of your deceased ancestors. And so he came to us. He was very mad. He said, “Ever since you came to the city and started preaching, my stones aren’t speaking anymore.”

SID: Now for those that don’t understand, if it’s not their dead ancestors speaking, who is speaking?

EMMA: As I want you to see the biblical order of things there, that God says, “I bring shaking. I bring shaking, not because of judgment. I bring shaking, not because I don’t like people. I bring shaking, not because I’m not kind but actually the opposite. I bring shaking because I’m so in love with the earth. That I want them to choose me.” We go to that scripture and so the vision falls out of that. I saw God on his hands, on his knees. It was quite a distressing scene because you like to see God as quite contained and regal and on the throne.

EMMA: But it was very much in that mode of the Isaiah laboring women that God is likened to in scripture where God has got His face in that travailing place. I got down on my hands and knees besides God in the throne room because whatever He is doing, I want to partner with Him. I said, “What are you praying, God? What are you praying? Why are you like this?” He’s saying, “Pray with me. Pray with me people, because I want the nations to choose me. I’m so in love with the earth that I want the nations to choose me and I’m happy to shake you so that you might pick me.”

SID: You’re saying that the shaking, which was prophesied is what is going on now and it will follow by glory.

EMMA: Yes. I mean that is the point. I think you can’t have revival until there’s a challenge. You can’t have brilliant preaching until there’s a shaking and it’s not about, do we hide away? It’s about, a season of becoming harvest-ready. That is the word of the Lord over this. Church, get harvest ready. You see what happens in the plagues of Egypt is we… under the watchful eye of Pharaoh and Moses, is that the shaking is so great that it shakes the false gods of the Egyptians off their thrones. They realize that the false gods cannot do anything. Again, we’re anchoring ourselves in scripture here. We find that the Egyptians realize that the God of Israel, Yahweh, is the true God. We know that because they give all their wealth to the Israelites as they leave.

EMMA: As we layer these scriptural contexts, we understand that God is shaking false gods off thrones right now. He’s saying that I wish you would find me in blessing. I wish you would find me in times of ease but because you don’t, I will shake your gods so that they fall to their faces, so that you realize that I am the one true God. This is the precursor to the billion soul harvest. What I saw at the beginning of the year, the Lord showed the earth moving and it would feel like tectonic plates under our feet were starting to shift and the Lord says, “You are walking into the most uncomfortable season that the earth has ever seen.”

EMMA: I heard God call it, the uncomfortable revival. He didn’t call it the revival of ease. He called it the uncomfortable revival that we are walking into. The prayer is not, “God, save me. God saved me. God, take me away from it.” The prayer is this, “God would you shake me like you shake other people so that any false God in me can fall to its knees and be cast out of me.

SID: You call it God’s purification process. What the devil means for evil will allow us to be vessels, to be containers of the glory of God. Do either of you, have a strong, strong word from God, for the nation of Israel because as you know, we are available on every home in Israel.

CANDICE: “Because I’m coming back and I’m royalty,” he says, “and I want to sit at the table with royal citizens. I don’t want to sit with a group of people that I’ve saved, redeemed, healed, and resurrected and they still act like nothing was ever done for them.” He’s like I want them to come back and be with him at the level that you and I are, how we’re talking here. He’s right here, right with us right now. And in the heavenly realms I see us talking right across the table and he’s right here. He’s so real. And so with this real dialogue, he just wants us to tell everybody it’s for them, too.

SID: You heard that, it’s for you, too. When we return, Candice is going to pray for you to experience heaven on earth all the time.

We’ll be right back to It’s Supernatural.

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SID: Candice, what are blessing blockers?

CANDICE: Blessing blockers are things that come to steal our joy or heavenly experience. Heaven is supposed to be available to you every day. It is in your faith and in the Word that you carry in your heart. So, whatever is coming to distract, distort, discourage, bring fear, anxiety, depression has all come to deter you from the seat that the Lord has already given you. He wants us to be walking in this fullness and abundance and the confidence of knowing that we’re seated with him all the time. And so, blessing blockers would be those things that we might think about that would distract us from the moment with him. Or, that the enemy would deposit a seed into us from past things that happened that would cause us to look at that thing and massage it or talk to it just a little bit. No.

CANDICE: At the royal table, there is no distraction. Okay? Now, imagine if you’re seated at the royal table but you’ve got your cell phone, and your cell phone is ringing. You’re at the royal table, you’re not going to answer your cell phone. No, you are going to be very focused on where you’re at and who you are with. You would not answer that thing. You would not even want to be excused to go to the restroom because the moment is so intense. That’s how we should be living our lives every day, and anything that interrupts that, we need to take authority over it and say, “No, you do not deserve to be here. I will not look at you. I will not talk to you. I will not think about you.” And they began to speak the Word again, began to praise the Lord, praising him in all situations in every moment.

CANDICE: Why? Why can we? Because he’s so good that he’s fixing it. He’s already fixing it. When we, because of humanity and the fall of man and being separated from God, we developed habits and patterns of those people that were cast away. But the fact is, we are no longer cast away, we are united with him and our new seat means we have to reframe our thinking.

SID: Candice, look into the camera and you pray for heaven on earth for those are hungry and thirsty for more, like me, like you.

CANDICE: Amen. I’m going to pray for you. I just believe right now that angels are visiting you in your room. They’re meeting you right where you’re at. No matter fear or anxiety or depression or sickness that has consumed your life in any way, any distractors or anything that has come in to pull you away from where you are seated with Christ. We’re going to bind those forces right now in the name of Jesus. You have no authority, because you are seated with him and heavenly places.

CANDICE: Father, I thank you right now, Lord. I thank you, that as we close our eyes in this moment, everyone close your eyes. I thank you, Father, that we are walking in to the royal palace. It is full of gold. And as we come in, we are escorted to the right and we are given a seat. An angel escorts us to a seat. This seat has our name on it. As we go to sit down, we look at the plate. The plate, turn it over, it has your name on it. Touch the gold utensils. Look at the bread before you. See all of the bounty that God has.

CANDICE: Now, look to your left or to your right, it depends on where you’re seated. If you’re seated on the left side of the banquet table, he is to your left. If you’re on the right side of the banquet table, he’s to your right. He seated there. He’s in a white robe. He has a gold crown with jewels. He’s got a gold chalice in his hand. He has gold rings. He’s full of glory. He’s laughing and full of joy. Your seat is there not because you earned it, but because he invited you to be there, because he paid the price. You have been seated in this place with him. Do not get up. Just receive.

CANDICE: Stay in that place right now. Let him minister to you. Lord, we thank you. Thank you, Jesus. He’s healing people right now. There’s people with digestive problems that he’s healing right now. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Knees, I see people, their knees are being healed. I don’t know if you’ve had a prior surgery on your knees. Lord, I thank you Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Feet, feet that are crippled up are beginning to open in the name of Jesus.

SID: For those of you that want your experiential knowledge of God, and that’s the game changer, say this prayer out loud with me and believe it to the best of your ability. Dear God…

Audience: Dear God…

SID: I’m a sinner…

Audience: I’m a sinner…

SID: For which I am so sorry.

Audience: For which I am so sorry.

SID: I believe…

Audience: I believe…

SID: The blood of Jesus…

Audience: The blood of Jesus…

SID: Has washed away my sins…

Audience: Has washed away my sins…

SID: And I am clean.

Audience: And I am clean.

SID: And now that I am clean…

Audience: And now that I am clean…

SID: I boldly proclaim…

Audience: I boldly proclaim…

SID: You are my Lord…

Audience: You are my Lord…

SID: And you are my savior.

Audience: And you are my savior.

SID: Before you say amen, if you have a pain in your neck or your back or in your head, you are healed in Jesus’ name.

Hello, Sid Roth here, welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest has been practicing, soaking in the presence of God for 25 years. She has seen multitudes healed and begin to hear God’s voice clearly and have visions and fresh encounters with God’s love. She says it’s so simple and available for everyone. Interested?

Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Can our dreams contain messages from heaven? Are there hidden forces of darkness trying to block God’s blessings for your life? Do angels exist providing us with supernatural protection disarming our enemies? Is God ready to bring a tsunami wave of healing onto planet earth today? Sid Roth has spent over 40 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural!

SID: Hello I’m here with Carol Arnott and many of you are familiar with Carol and her husband John and they were the leaders of what has been known as the Toronto Airport Outpouring, an unbelievable, something like four and a half million people came from all over the world because the presence of God was there. And Carol has just written a brand new book on soaking. And many of you know what soaking is, but many of you don’t even know what that is, and would you briefly describe what is soaking?

CAROL: Sid, it is positioning yourself before the Lord. It’s saying, “Lord, here I am. I’ve come to love you.” No prayer agendas, no intercession, all that’s good but it’s time to be focused on him and it opens your heart to intimacy, it opens your heart to being transformed, to be healed, to be radically in love and to be empowered as well because you see you can’t give away what you don’t already have.

SID: And when I think of soaking I think of laying down on the floor or sitting in a comfortable chair playing some very relaxing music and being still before the Lord. Now when you started this soaking no one had taught you this, you had no paradigm for it. How did you start?

CAROL: Well, I started because I couldn’t stand in the presence of the Lord. I would be on the floor. And so, I was just there and I would be loving him and his presence would be there and the more I loved him the more his presence would come. And then he would begin to say, “I love you, my daughter. You are so precious to me.” And then I’d say, “Do you really love me?” And then he’d say, “Yes, I really love you.” It’s hard for us to believe because we know what we’re like, right?

SID: Well, and God knows even better than we know.

CAROL: I know. I know. But it’s really opening our hearts to believe that he really, really, really loves us and that we really are his son and really are his daughter. And he absolutely, his whole thing is he wants to spend time with us. You see that’s the most valuable thing that we own. He spoke to me, and he said, “Carol, sell me the most valuable thing that you own.” And I said, “Lord, I don’t know what that is. What are you talking about? Do you want my house? I have to ask John. The only thing I own that’s valuable is my horse. Do you want me to sell my horse?” And he said, “No, I want you to sell me your most valuable thing.” I said, Lord, “I don’t know what that is.” And he said, “Carol the most valuable thing that you own is your time. Sell me your time and buy the pearl of great price.”

CAROL: And that began, Sid, my time spent with the Lord just loving him, just worshiping him. Sometimes it would be just his presence would come and he would tell me the desires of his heart to me and it was getting to know him just much like a young couple in love, they talk for hours. John and I talked for hours on the phone and my mom and his mom would say, “What on earth are you talking about? You just talked to him last night for two hours.” And I said, “I don’t know what we talked about but I just love him.” And so, you want to take time to get to know somebody. Well, it’s the same with God. He’s a God of love, he’s a God of relationship, and he wants us to become relational with him on an emotional level and on a heart level.

SID: Hello. I’m here with Jermaine and Rebecca Francis and a nice young couple. Between you and me, what’s it like being married to a prophet? Both of you are prophets.

JERMAINE:  It’s absolutely terrifying, Sid.

REBECCA: Can’t get away with anything.

SID: Goodness. Speaking of not getting away with it, Jermaine, tell me about the twin girls that went missing.

JERMAINE:  Yes. We were speaking at a conference earlier this year and some people in the conference had a connection with the local law enforcement and they got word to us and said there were twin girls that were missing and they were searching for them all day and couldn’t find them and so they wanted us to pray. And so the leader of the conference prayed a little bit. Then he walked over to me, I wasn’t even expecting, handed me the microphone and said, “I want you to pray.” And so I just said, “Okay.” And being a prophetic person, we always ask the Lord, what are you saying about this? Don’t just pray from ourselves. And so I just said a little, what are you saying? And immediately I just felt the Lord saying in my spirit begin to declare that these girls would be found within the hour. And so I began—

SID: What are you saying? We Jewish people have a word for that, it’s all chutzpah. That means nerve. It takes a lot of chutzpah to do that.

JERMAINE:  Yes. Yes.

SID: So what happens?

JERMAINE:  Immediately I took the microphone and I began to declare and I said, “Within the hour these girls would be found,” in front of a live audience and handed the microphone back.

SID: It’s better it wasn’t in front of a dead audience.

JERMAINE:  You couldn’t resist—and so we went back into a time of worship and then about 20 minutes later they got back on the microphone and said the girls were found within that hour.

SID: Rebecca, you say it’s easy for believers to prophesy. Do you really mean that?

REBECCA: Absolutely. It’s easy. It’s natural. As you say, naturally supernatural. We’ve overcomplicated it, but I love what Jesus said. He said, “My sheep hear my voice.” And the thing is, he said it so matter of factly. There’s no hype around it. He didn’t need to make a big announcement. It was not that complicated. He just said, “My sheep hear my voice.”

SID: Jermaine, I want to take you back. Do you remember the first time that you prophesied?

JERMAINE:  Yes.

SID: What happened?

JERMAINE:  I was absolutely nervous.

SID: It’s as bad as being married to a prophetess.

JERMAINE:  Pretty close. I was absolutely nervous. And what happened was we are in a time of prophetic activations where they wanted to begin to exercise your gift and begin to step out there by faith. And they said, “Begin to receive something from the Lord and pray for the person I partnered you with.” And so I look for the scariest person as me in the room because I was super nervous. I was like I don’t know if I can do this. And so I found this lady and I just said, “Okay, let’s partner together.” And so I closed my eyes and said, “Okay Lord, if you have a word for her.” I really wasn’t expecting anything and immediately the Lord just dropped in my spirit. She’s looking for a job, she needs some situations with her job situation. And so I just said, “Okay, I’m going to pray this.” Terrified and I prayed it and she begins to weep and begins to cry and say, “Oh my gosh, that’s exactly what I prayed to the Lord this morning. I was looking for a job and you prayed exactly what I prayed.” And that brought so much peace and confirmation to her.

SID: This is special, Hank, because we’re living in very special times.

HANK:  You know, I’ve been talking a lot, I know you follow our ministry, this was from New Year’s Eve just a few days ago. We had been prophesying a lot the last month about Iran and North Korea. There’s been a retaliation. There’s been a general of the Uranian army top commander that’s been taken out. And of course the news media is all over it. Calling the President a warmonger and all of this. Here’s where we have to be careful and this is why I’m coming to represent the heart of God.

HANK:  I very little listen to the news and I do it on purpose because when I do hear people talk against, for example, the President, they’re speaking impeachment, I hear the Lord laughing because that’s not God’s idea, nor is it his agenda. God reveals his news through his prophets, Amos 3:7. He does nothing in the earth unless he reveals his secrets to his servants, the prophets. But the enemy, though uses, he uses the airwaves. He’s the Prince of the power of the air. The enemy, how does he, he has to have prophets. He has to have the local media, the national international media voice what his agenda is.

HANK:  Now he’s trying to get us to agree with impeachment. He’s trying to get us to come against this President that happens to be God’s plan. God’s man for a mission of mercy that he’s trying to show the church that right now you’ve got a friend of Israel, you’ve got a friend of the church, Paul prayed. Let the door of the gospel remain open. This President is a friend of you, Christian. “Oh, but he’s immoral.” Listen, do not be quick to judge because they had tried to impeach Moses, but yet Moses was God’s choice and God’s man to rescue and deliver a nation. And the same is true.

HANK:  But here’s what the enemy’s trying to do. Get people to agree with hearsay. I want to share a revelation of what God is saying. Here’s what God said on new year’s, cause I don’t want you to fear about Iran. I don’t want you to think there’s a warmonger. We’ve got four horns, just like Zachariah 4 that are trying to rise up, and if we don’t pray and if we don’t get the right President, which I believe is Trump, it’s God’s man for this next election, we’re going to be faced with four horns; Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China. They will rise up to be enemies. But God has anointed this President to strip them of their power. What the enemy wants to do to preempt a war for World War III.

HANK:  But here’s what God says, “A retaliation shall arise through this President to those in other nations who think that they can bring and afflict fear and harm. They shall say he’s but a warmonger hungry for a war. God says, Do not be fooled, for I’m going to show you the strength and the power of what I’m going to do to raise you up even greater, United States. That your enemies will begin to fear the name United States, again. Do not fear retaliation when you see it before your eyes, but watch what I do in the place of the Middle East. Those who have opposed will be removed.”

SID: You’ve had a vision. Start of 2020. For the next decade, actually even went a little longer. Tell us some of the things you’ve seen.

HANK:  Yes. February 12th of 2019 God showed me a vision that went into 12 years and he said, “Hank, I can’t show you beyond this because your spirit cannot handle beyond this. And he said, the reason it’s 12 years is because I’ve come to set things in order in the earth should I choose to tarry.” Here’s what I saw, some of the things. First of all, he said there will be two specific signs to reveal great awakenings and this will begin to happen. He said protests and power outages, and we’ve already seen since that word fulfilled power outages as a sign that the places that are going to experience these power outages are going to be significant for those that sit in darkness are going to see a great light.

SID: I love your teaching. And she breaks it. She calls these dances because you’re from a, and I hope you got this, because you are fighting from a position of a victor. One of your dances you call the Dance of The Unoffended Heart. What is that?

ANA: I had this vision where God took me up and I saw all these horses running and they were really wild and beautiful. But then I looked and I saw there’s this one horse that was really struggling. So as I got closer I looked and I saw it had a muzzle over its mouth and on the muzzle was written the word offense. Then I heard the Lord’s voice say, “Offense blocks my flow of my spirit.” I thought, that’s the first time I’d ever heard that. Then He showed me that, and then I got to it. It’s like He showed me and then I was tested with it because we had a car that was gifted to us when we came back from overseas. We didn’t have a vehicle and someone gave us this beautiful car. It was our present from God.

We were like, “Thank you, Jesus.” Then it was stolen. It was stolen right out from our driveway in the middle of the night. I’ll never forget that moment. We woke up and we realized it had been stolen and we were crying. “God, what are we going to do?” Then we grabbed hands in the living room and I heard the Lord’s voice say, “I’m testing your response.” I’ll never forget. We grabbed hands and we said, “We’re going to choose to not be offended no matter what happens, God.” But this is what I mean by the unoffended heart is if anything gets taken away, that we’ll say, “We love you, Jesus, no matter what. My faith in you is not going to be shaken, no matter what comes. It won’t be wavered. It won’t be moved because I trust that you are good Daddy and you still will take care of me no matter what it looks like right now.”

SID: We’re also dealing with something called rise from the enemy. This affects being offended. It affects us even at the cellular level. You have been able to look into someone’s body cells. What do you see happening?

ANA: Yes. I was praying for a woman one day and she came and asked for prayer and she had a lot of things going on actually, cough, respiratory thing, back pain, joint pain, you name it. She had a lot going on, but what happened is as I was praying I saw this image. I saw a blood cell and written across the blood cell I saw the word trauma written like that. So I said to her, I stopped and I said, “I’m just going to ask you something. I feel like the Lord showed me something. I could be wrong, but just tell me.” I said, “Did you go through some kind of trauma as a child when you were really young?” She said, “Yes, yes.” Then I said, “Actually the Lord showed me about that, but what I see is that when that trauma happened, a lie came in that somewhere along the way that you believe that you’re not good enough. I believe this sickness, all this stuff you’re experiencing is all attached to that lie.”

She started crying. We ended up walking her through repenting for coming into agreement with the lie that I’m not good enough. As she broke that off, then she was physically completely healed of everything that she came in there with. So this thing about lies is so important. When we’re in warfare, I do this all the time. I actually, every day I ask the Lord practically, I say, “Jesus, is there any lie that I’m believing right now that’s not of you?”

SID: Because when you can get rid of that lie, you use a phrase, and you’re going to love this phrase, Ana refuses to be a landing strip for the devil.

ANA: When Jesus, He prayed for that man and all the demons came out of the man, and then the demons asked Jesus, “Can we go into those pigs?” When I look at that Scripture, I see that demonic activity, it looks for somewhere to land. So I’m like I am not going to be a landing strip for the enemy. I’m going to keep myself clean. I’m going to repent of sin, if I have any sin in my life, first and foremost. Then I asked the Lord, is there a lie I’m believing that’s not of you? If Holy Spirit brings it up, I say, “I break my agreement with that lie in Jesus’ name. Now God show me truth,” because we’ve got to get truth setback. You pull out the lie, you’ve got to get something to put back in. So what’s the truth, God? Then He shows me and I say, “Now this is mine and I claim it and I declare it over myself.”

SID: One of the greatest and one of the most overlooked weapons is the dance of joy. Are you ready for joy next?

SID: You teach that a lot of people don’t understand that when they plant or sow, it must be intentional.

PATRICIA: Right. Well, that’s what Isaac did. I believe Isaac intentionally sowed that seed because obviously it wasn’t the greatest land to sow in and they’d been in drought and famine. It was just like. But he knew the covenant that he had with God through his father Abraham. And so he intentionally sowed believing for results. And I find faith is the key, Sid. Faith is the key. So when we get a word from God and we intentionally respond to that, knowing that I’m being obedient to your word, Lord, and I’m intentionally doing this, then there’s an expectation for what God said is going to happen is going to happen.

SID: That’s the faith dimension.

PATRICIA: Right. It is the faith dimension.

SID: Now, I understand you lived in Mexico and you became very, very rich.

PATRICIA: That’s right. Well, a lot of times, Sid, people in our Western culture, they equate being rich with the world’s monetary system or material things, but in the kingdom it’s so different than that. So there we were in Mexico living in the slums of Mexico and we were living in a very humble place. We were in one room. Our whole family was in one room, in a little apartment that was maybe 600 square feet or so, and we had six other young guys living with us. One bathroom, a little kitchen area, and we were rich as could be. We had, of course, everything that we needed as far as shelter. We had a good sleep every night. We had transportation to get to where we were going.

SID: You were really happy with one bathroom for all those people?

PATRICIA: We were at so much grace at the time and grace makes you rich. I tell you. But every day we were able to go out and see people run to the Lord. We saw people healed from sickness every day. I’m sure, and I don’t think I’m exaggerating on that in that season. We saw them delivered from demons. We saw supernatural provision come in. We were building homes for the poor. We were building orphanages, medical centers, furnishing them with supplies. We had an abundance, and it was a good thing that we didn’t have a great big house to look after, whatever, because we wouldn’t have time for it anyway.

SID: But you felt so satisfied, so rich.

PATRICIA: Yep. That’s what rich is all about. When you’re satisfied, like just think of it, in our Western culture we think we have to have everything bigger. In fact, people go into debt to get something bigger because the world’s expectation is that’s what calls you rich, right? Or a greater car or a higher end handbag or whatever it is. And they go, ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching, go into debt with it. That’s not rich. That’s bondage. But you can have a small place that you live in with everything paid for, no debt, everything that you need and more, no worries. Free to serve God, I call that rich.

SID: I do too. Did you know that you can ascend to and descend from heaven at will and it’s biblically true? Be right back.